Where to find doors and hatches for a modern ship - 1:100 scale

[Eurus]

Hello friends!

 

I need your kind help. For one of my builds I am in need of a particular type of door, as shown in the picture:

 

 

The main problem here is that the doors supplied in the kit are totally different, like so:

 

 

Even if I decided to carve the inner, wooden door directly from the ship's wall, I need the second, outer watertight hatch. I am thinking of transforming the zamak part provided, but then I need the wheel. These would need to be around ~2mm in diameter. I don't know how to solve this situation, or if any such aftermarket part would be available somewhere. I have so far looked in some stores without success. I do not want to have to manufacture these tiny pieces myself: I need 12 of them!

 

 

What should I do? Your opinion is welcome.

 

Thank you!

 

[Keith Black]

 Eurus, a 2mm wheel is less than a tenth of an inch. This is so small I don't think you're going to be able to get any detail though there are folks doing incredible things with 3D printers. Were it I, I'd make a 2mm circle from card, wood or brass, paint is white and call it good. I assume this is for the Cuauhtemoc? 

[Eurus]

19 minutes ago, Keith Black said:

 Eurus, a 2mm wheel is less than a tenth of an inch. This is so small I don't think you're going to be able to get any detail though there are folks doing incredible things with 3D printers. Were it I, I'd make a 2mm circle from card, wood or brass, paint is white and call it good. I assume this is for the Cuauhtemoc? 

 

Yes, it's for the Cuauhtemoc. That's a pic of the real ship that serves as an excellent reference.

 

I re-checked the scale and measurements and probably a 3-4mm diameter wheel would do the trick as well. I agree that these are very small details, and that is why I want to avoid scratch-building them if possible.

 

I believe such a part exists--there's lots of WWII warship models which potentially use these wheels or hatches. I am considering cannibalizing and repurposing small jewelry pieces, chain links or even steering wheels from Hot Wheels toy cars.

[Captain Slog]

These wheels are available in sizes sub-2mm and larger in brass photo etch.

If you google GPM card models this will bring up a Polish site where I have seen them previously.

I can't remember if the PE fret contains multiple diameters or 1 fret per size.

I agree 3 or 4mm wheels will be more in keeping with scale.

 

Cheers

Slog

[Roger Pellett]

HO Model Railroad scale is 1:87 and is very common, at least here in the US.  There is also a tt scale that is 1:100.  Railroads use lots of hand wheels so you should be able to find something from a model railroad supplier.

Edited August 2, 2021 by Roger Pellett

[mcb]

Hello Eurus,

 

As Roger said above you should be able to find something to use for the wheel such as N scale model Railroad brake wheels (see below) in photo etched metal.  I thought I had something that could work in plastic but I didn't find it in a quick search of my inventory.

If I recall Gold Metal Models may have offered water tight type doors (USN), but don't hold me to that.

 

Good Luck,

MCB

[Keith Black]

15 hours ago, Roger Pellett said:

tt scale that is 1:100

 Roger, with the greatest respect, TT scale is 1:120

Edited August 2, 2021 by Keith Black

[Eurus]

 

Thanks everyone for your very useful answers!

 

4 hours ago, Captain Slog said:

These wheels are available in sizes sub-2mm and larger in brass photo etch.

If you google GPM card models this will bring up a Polish site where I have seen them previously.

I can't remember if the PE fret contains multiple diameters or 1 fret per size.

I agree 3 or 4mm wheels will be more in keeping with scale.

 

Cheers

Slog

 

3 hours ago, Roger Pellett said:

HO Model Railroad scale is 1:87 and is very common, at least here in the US.  There is also a tt scale that is 1:100.  Railroads use lots of hand wheels so you should be able to find something from a model railroad supplier.

 

I don't know a lot about trains, but definitely that appears to be the best option.

 

2 hours ago, mcb said:

Hello Eurus,

 

As Roger said above you should be able to find something to use for the wheel such as N scale model Railroad brake wheels (see below) in photo etched metal.  I thought I had something that could work in plastic but I didn't find it in a quick search of my inventory.

If I recall Gold Metal Models may have offered water tight type doors (USN), but don't hold me to that.

 

Good Luck,

MCB

 

Well, that's exactly what I need! Thank you MCB for the picture. Now I know what to look for. There's a model train supplier nearby, I hope they have one of those. The size seems perfect.

 

As long as I can get my hands on one of those photo-etch cards, I can make the doors out of scrap wood or tiny metal pieces. That would solve the problem.

 

Thank you!

 

 

 

[Ras Ambrioso]

In the fifie I’m building, the steam winch had EP wheel installed. the Ep card had an extra one. They are a about 2.5 mm dia.  I think these would be available on line