egkb Posted January 23, 2014 Share #2281 Posted January 23, 2014 (edited) Is it one of those U.S. 3 Deckers ? Pennsylvania or the like! Eamonn Total shot in the dark by the way Edited January 23, 2014 by egkb Quote Current Build : HM Schooner Ballahoo In the Pipeline : HM Cutter Sherbourne, HM Mortar Convulsion, Emma C Berry & C18th English Longboat.. Eventually That Is..🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BareHook Posted January 23, 2014 Share #2282 Posted January 23, 2014 I have to agree with Eamonn. Only 3 decker I could find with no Poop deck. Quote Current Build: Authentic Hannah Kit Bash Pending Continuation: Sea of Galilee Boat Completed Build: MS AVS On Shelf: AL Independence, Blue Jacket Alfred Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molasses Posted January 23, 2014 Share #2283 Posted January 23, 2014 Is it one of those U.S. 3 Deckers ? Pennsylvania or the like! Eamonn Total shot in the dark by the way Good shooting, Eamonn. It is the USS Pennsylvania. Keel laid in 1821, launched in 1837 and commissioned in 1838. She made but one voyage from Delaware Bay to Chesapeake Bay where she was placed in ordinary. In 1842 she became a receiving ship at Norfolk Navy Yard until April 1861 when she was burned to the waterline to prevent capture by Confederate forces. The largest sailing warship built by the US Navy with a crew of 1100, she was pierced for 136 guns, was armed with 120 (104 x 32 pounders and 16 x 8 inch shell guns) but is frequently listed as 140 guns. Your turn, Eamonn. WackoWolf and egkb 2 Quote Current Builds: ESMERALDA Chilean Navy School Ship, 1/640 in a bottle insanity Dan Clapp's hard water race boat in a bottle Completed Build: Prairie Schooner OGALLALA 1/96 in a bottle Research Project: Cruizer-class Brig-Sloops "Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." - Benjamin Franklin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egkb Posted January 23, 2014 Share #2284 Posted January 23, 2014 Thanks DFellingham, I remembered the American 3 decker's on a calendar back in the late 80's that was in my office,, I hadn't known at the time that 'of the Line' ships were in the early US Navy, large Frigates yes but not 2 and 3 deck affairs! Anyhoo next up from me is this little beauty, ye might have to put your thinking caps on for her ( I was reminded of her from a post further up, in fact I thought it might have been the same boat, but it wasn't.. she is of a similar vintage though!) 3 of these were built but it is this particular one that should leap out at you from its history.. you just need to be logical to see why it would appeal to me. Ok That's enough hints.. probably too many in fairness, but than she is a rather ordinary looking vessel. Sláinte Eamonn WackoWolf 1 Quote Current Build : HM Schooner Ballahoo In the Pipeline : HM Cutter Sherbourne, HM Mortar Convulsion, Emma C Berry & C18th English Longboat.. Eventually That Is..🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted January 24, 2014 Share #2285 Posted January 24, 2014 For a moment I was thinking 'would there be any chance of a gunboat named Arklow...." Jan egkb 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egkb Posted January 24, 2014 Share #2286 Posted January 24, 2014 Nice Jan ... but not quiet that easy.. though you wouldn't be too 'far' away for this 'Hound of the Sea' Ahh the clues just keep coming .. though one of the 2 clues in the sentence above is totally accurate, yet practically useless the other will be much more help.. but which is which? Remember of the 3 built, it is the boat in the photo I want.. it should be obvious which is the one, when you find them! Eamonn Quote Current Build : HM Schooner Ballahoo In the Pipeline : HM Cutter Sherbourne, HM Mortar Convulsion, Emma C Berry & C18th English Longboat.. Eventually That Is..🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinR Posted January 24, 2014 Share #2287 Posted January 24, 2014 (edited) The gunboat Helga. Used against the insurgents in the 1916 Irish uprising. "26 April 1916: Field guns from Trinity College and the gunboat Helga on the River Liffey bombarded the Irish Citizen’s Army HQ at Liberty Hall and demolished it. Buildings in O’Connell St were also targeted and destroyed. The upper floor of the GPO was evacuated has the men there came under sustained attack from British snipers and guns." Link Edited January 24, 2014 by Kevin from Hampton Roads Quote Kevin Hampton, VA Current Builds: Skipjack Albatross - 1:32 On Hold: Yacht Atlantic - Scientific Completed: Ships Boat - MS - First Planked Kit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egkb Posted January 24, 2014 Share #2288 Posted January 24, 2014 That's the One Kevin, though in the photo she is in Irish Navy guise as Muirchú (meaning Hound of the Sea, in Irish Language, that was the Totally Accurate yet Practically Useless hint! ) She was the one of the first Vessels in the Irish Navy, and had an interesting career, as Kevin mentioned being used against the Insurgents in the Easter Rising then being used by the Irish as a Naval Patrol Vessel only a few years later! 3 were built and I believe 2 of them went to Canada! Well done Kevin and over to you! Sláinte Eamonn Quote Current Build : HM Schooner Ballahoo In the Pipeline : HM Cutter Sherbourne, HM Mortar Convulsion, Emma C Berry & C18th English Longboat.. Eventually That Is..🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titanic Posted January 24, 2014 Share #2289 Posted January 24, 2014 Hint: it's not me! Quote TITANIC is now on social media - follow her: Twitter - @Titanic_1212 Facebook - TitanicTheShip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted January 24, 2014 Share #2290 Posted January 24, 2014 Hello Titanic, Feel free to join the game! But..you are only allowed to put up a new ship if you have correctly named the previous one, and the poster of that ship has acknowledged you were right. In this case Kevin can post a new picture. (and (hint:) ): we can see the name of the pics posted, so when you post a picture named olympic, we don't even need your hint with respect to the name of the ship ) Jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titanic Posted January 24, 2014 Share #2291 Posted January 24, 2014 Hahaha, thanks for the clarification, Jan! Quote TITANIC is now on social media - follow her: Twitter - @Titanic_1212 Facebook - TitanicTheShip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doreltomin Posted January 24, 2014 Share #2292 Posted January 24, 2014 Hello Kevin and Eamonn, that's what I love most to this game, it gives you a good opportunity to find out things about various ships with so interesting histories. Thanks for posting that! @ Titanic: please, come in and have a seat.. it's free for everybody to guess the ship and, if you guess, then you can post the next one! Cheers, Dorin. P.S: Kevin, don't forget it's your turn! egkb 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinR Posted January 24, 2014 Share #2293 Posted January 24, 2014 Ok here it goes. The ship I decided on is one that I spent 5 years on and got to know very well. The ship class will be easy to get, but, you need to name the specific ship. This ship had many unique features that set it apart from other ships in the class. I made sure that all 3 of the pictures captured one of the most noticeable feature (that is, if you are a details oriented person). Quote Kevin Hampton, VA Current Builds: Skipjack Albatross - 1:32 On Hold: Yacht Atlantic - Scientific Completed: Ships Boat - MS - First Planked Kit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titanic Posted January 25, 2014 Share #2294 Posted January 25, 2014 (edited) That ship's indeed a beauty... She looks like a destroyer and could she be the, hmmm, HMS Daring? Edited January 25, 2014 by Titanic Quote TITANIC is now on social media - follow her: Twitter - @Titanic_1212 Facebook - TitanicTheShip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinR Posted January 25, 2014 Share #2295 Posted January 25, 2014 (edited) Sorry Titanic, you got Destroyer correct, but not the name. Edited January 25, 2014 by Kevin from Hampton Roads Quote Kevin Hampton, VA Current Builds: Skipjack Albatross - 1:32 On Hold: Yacht Atlantic - Scientific Completed: Ships Boat - MS - First Planked Kit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egkb Posted January 25, 2014 Share #2296 Posted January 25, 2014 Hmmmm, Spruance Class but which one? Eamonn Quote Current Build : HM Schooner Ballahoo In the Pipeline : HM Cutter Sherbourne, HM Mortar Convulsion, Emma C Berry & C18th English Longboat.. Eventually That Is..🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinR Posted January 25, 2014 Share #2297 Posted January 25, 2014 that is a good question Eamonn. egkb 1 Quote Kevin Hampton, VA Current Builds: Skipjack Albatross - 1:32 On Hold: Yacht Atlantic - Scientific Completed: Ships Boat - MS - First Planked Kit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egkb Posted January 25, 2014 Share #2298 Posted January 25, 2014 Well there is only about 30 odd of them Lets start with the 'A's'.. just kiddin, was trying to find particularly distinguishing features compared to the 'norm (and using your 3 photos) and I keep coming back to that Radar antenna Eamonn I'll have to let somebody else follow up as it's bed time over here (just past 2 in the morning) so good night Kevin, and have a great rest of the day. If it is still there in the morning (or thereabouts) I'll have a dig around again. All the best from sleepy Ireland. Eamonn KevinR 1 Quote Current Build : HM Schooner Ballahoo In the Pipeline : HM Cutter Sherbourne, HM Mortar Convulsion, Emma C Berry & C18th English Longboat.. Eventually That Is..🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinR Posted January 25, 2014 Share #2299 Posted January 25, 2014 Good night. Quote Kevin Hampton, VA Current Builds: Skipjack Albatross - 1:32 On Hold: Yacht Atlantic - Scientific Completed: Ships Boat - MS - First Planked Kit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egkb Posted January 25, 2014 Share #2300 Posted January 25, 2014 Dang this is tough Kevin, there are subtle differences between nearly all these Destroyers, particularly when you take into account the changes that would have been made over their careers (many can be ruled out completely though as the Aircraft hanger is the wrong shape, ie whether it overhangs the pain deck or not! and one has a rather unusual mast to say the least) Believe it or not the most help came from the Ships Badge, which eliminated some more, unfortunately no photo I could find showed this area at all clearly in all the remaining vessels.. so here goes.. A guess based on the above.. USS Briscoe (DD-977) All the Best Kevin Eamonn Quote Current Build : HM Schooner Ballahoo In the Pipeline : HM Cutter Sherbourne, HM Mortar Convulsion, Emma C Berry & C18th English Longboat.. Eventually That Is..🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinR Posted January 25, 2014 Share #2301 Posted January 25, 2014 (edited) Eamonn, It was not the Briscoe. You were on the right track with the Radar antenna. This ship was built with a different air search radar than all of the others. Note: The USS Radford (DD-968) was the one with the funny mast. The mast was added to the USS Radford in 1997 and used as a testing platform for new technology. Edited January 25, 2014 by Kevin from Hampton Roads Quote Kevin Hampton, VA Current Builds: Skipjack Albatross - 1:32 On Hold: Yacht Atlantic - Scientific Completed: Ships Boat - MS - First Planked Kit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egkb Posted January 25, 2014 Share #2302 Posted January 25, 2014 Hi Kevin, without actually going to the US Naval Achieve and checking individual masts against the various refits etc, I'm afraid I'd have to start listing the other 10 or so that I narrowed down.. Any more Hints? Eamonn Quote Current Build : HM Schooner Ballahoo In the Pipeline : HM Cutter Sherbourne, HM Mortar Convulsion, Emma C Berry & C18th English Longboat.. Eventually That Is..🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molasses Posted January 25, 2014 Share #2303 Posted January 25, 2014 Oldendorf (DD-972) was the test platform for the AN/SPQ-9B Anti-ship Missile Defense (ASMD) Firecontrol Radar. Is this the ship? Quote Current Builds: ESMERALDA Chilean Navy School Ship, 1/640 in a bottle insanity Dan Clapp's hard water race boat in a bottle Completed Build: Prairie Schooner OGALLALA 1/96 in a bottle Research Project: Cruizer-class Brig-Sloops "Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." - Benjamin Franklin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egkb Posted January 25, 2014 Share #2304 Posted January 25, 2014 Hi DFellingham, I eliminated her as her Aircraft hanger doesn't extend out over the main deck (unless she had a refit of course) Only a 'few' more to go.. :) E Quote Current Build : HM Schooner Ballahoo In the Pipeline : HM Cutter Sherbourne, HM Mortar Convulsion, Emma C Berry & C18th English Longboat.. Eventually That Is..🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titanic Posted January 25, 2014 Share #2305 Posted January 25, 2014 Is this the USS Kidd? The picture below (from Navsource.org) shows a similar-looking destroyer: Quote TITANIC is now on social media - follow her: Twitter - @Titanic_1212 Facebook - TitanicTheShip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinR Posted January 25, 2014 Share #2306 Posted January 25, 2014 (edited) DFellingham, it is not the Oldendorf (DD-972). Titanic it was not the Kidd, the Kidd was the lead in it's on class. Here is the hint. When they were building this ship they ran out of Spruance Class parts, so they used parts from the Ticonderoga class and what could be salvaged to finish it. This included the Fresh water evaporators (Ticonderoga class - never had water hours in 5 years), HF Communications suit (from a decommissioned ship), Air Search Radar (Ticonderoga Class) and the huge Steel Armored door on the starboard side just aft of the break (Virginia Class Cruiser I believe). I never understood why put a steel armored door on an aluminum superstructure. Edited January 25, 2014 by Kevin from Hampton Roads egkb 1 Quote Kevin Hampton, VA Current Builds: Skipjack Albatross - 1:32 On Hold: Yacht Atlantic - Scientific Completed: Ships Boat - MS - First Planked Kit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molasses Posted January 25, 2014 Share #2307 Posted January 25, 2014 Your clues suggest this may have been the last Spruance-class destroyer built: USS Hayler (DD-997). egkb 1 Quote Current Builds: ESMERALDA Chilean Navy School Ship, 1/640 in a bottle insanity Dan Clapp's hard water race boat in a bottle Completed Build: Prairie Schooner OGALLALA 1/96 in a bottle Research Project: Cruizer-class Brig-Sloops "Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." - Benjamin Franklin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinR Posted January 25, 2014 Share #2308 Posted January 25, 2014 DFellingham, you are correct. The USS Hayler (DD-997) was suppose to be a class of it's own, DDH-997 (helicopter destroyer). But the Navy could not get enough funding to build it as such so completed it as a Spruance class destroyer. By the time it was built they were out of parts so had to find them where they could. All of the spruance class destroyers had the SPS-40 Air Search Radar except for the Hayler, it had the SPS-49. It made it easy to find at the piers, when there could be several Spruance classes nested together. As far as that armored door, I remember having to do maintenance on it. We had to bring in riggers just to change the hinge pins. During heavy seas the door would be secured because it could crush someone if it closed unexpectedly. All of the other Spruances and Ticonderogas had a large aluminum door in that location. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Hayler_%28DD-997%29 DFellingham, you win. So what have you got? WackoWolf and egkb 2 Quote Kevin Hampton, VA Current Builds: Skipjack Albatross - 1:32 On Hold: Yacht Atlantic - Scientific Completed: Ships Boat - MS - First Planked Kit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molasses Posted January 25, 2014 Share #2309 Posted January 25, 2014 Thanks, Kevin. Two days ago I would not have been able to distinguish a Spruance from an Arleigh Burke. That's why I enjoy this game, it forces me to learn about ships outside of my primary interest in "wooden ships and iron men." I'll be back in a short while with something made of wood. Dave KevinR and WackoWolf 2 Quote Current Builds: ESMERALDA Chilean Navy School Ship, 1/640 in a bottle insanity Dan Clapp's hard water race boat in a bottle Completed Build: Prairie Schooner OGALLALA 1/96 in a bottle Research Project: Cruizer-class Brig-Sloops "Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." - Benjamin Franklin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molasses Posted January 25, 2014 Share #2310 Posted January 25, 2014 Name the Ship: Sorry, this is the best image I could find of this ship, a sail plan, but sufficiently detailed to identify it. Retouched to remove "give-away" details (like the name of the ship). egkb, KevinR and Doreltomin 3 Quote Current Builds: ESMERALDA Chilean Navy School Ship, 1/640 in a bottle insanity Dan Clapp's hard water race boat in a bottle Completed Build: Prairie Schooner OGALLALA 1/96 in a bottle Research Project: Cruizer-class Brig-Sloops "Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." - Benjamin Franklin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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