allanyed Posted November 10, 2023 Share #31 Posted November 10, 2023 16 hours ago, Cmm4000 said: Had to thin it to 1.5mm I could not get the 2mm to bend on the stern wood processed and test bend successful! I think you are talking about the wales as the fenders ran vertically near midships. If that is the case, the wales were in fact reduced in thickness at the stem on the real ships down to the thickness of the surrounding planks so they could seat in the rabbet at the stem without sticking out and thus being susceptible to catching on something and being ripped off. They were not reduced at the stern, but I can see how this is a problem for you as the "walnut" is notorious for being porous and brittle and not very well suited for ship models compared to other species some other kit makers provide. Allan Quote PLEASE take 30 SECONDS and sign up for the epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series. Click on http://trafalgar.tv There is no cost other than the 30 seconds of your time. THANK YOU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BikerMart Posted November 10, 2023 Share #32 Posted November 10, 2023 The kit instructions do indeed refer to the wales as fenders. This is one of a number of items where the name used in the instructions might not be the same as we are used to. 'Lining', for example, where we might say 'planking'. Quote Finished: Billings Nordkap / Billings Boulogne Etaples / Billings Evelyn / Billings Elbjorn In progress: Billings HMS Endeavour / Billings HMS Bounty / Caldercraft HMS Pickle / Amati HMS Vanguard / Caldercraft HMS Victory / Caldercraft HMS Badger / Caldercraft HMS Diana / Caldercraft HMS Snake / Amati HMS Pegasus In the dim distant past: Model Slipway Wyeforce / Mountfleet Models Boston Typhoon (abandoned build) / Bluejacket Charles P. Notman (abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allanyed Posted November 10, 2023 Share #33 Posted November 10, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, BikerMart said: 'Lining', for example, where we might say 'planking'. I realize this is not seen for the most part on POB, but regarding terminology, internally there are footwales, clamps, quickwork, thick stuff, and lining but nothing called planking.😁 Allan Edited November 10, 2023 by allanyed Quote PLEASE take 30 SECONDS and sign up for the epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series. Click on http://trafalgar.tv There is no cost other than the 30 seconds of your time. THANK YOU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cmm4000 Posted November 14, 2023 Author Share #34 Posted November 14, 2023 Sirs, You are correct the instructions, if I recall correctly, refer to them as fenders and I'm guessing maybe due to translation from Spanish to English? For me the most valuable instructions are the book of photos the plans and the parts list with the dimensions/what the part is made of. For the most part, IMHO, the instructions say something like "build this," so it looks like the plan or the photo and I'm guessing that's why this is such a cool hobby, sometimes it takes a few days just for me to figure out how to make a part. Like the bell tower, the kit part is metal had to go, I couldn't get the top cut right from a solid piece of wood so I laminated several strips together over a dowel and capped it with thin walnut squares. Port side is done, more of the deck furniture started and work begins on the starboard side. RossR 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cmm4000 Posted November 15, 2023 Author Share #35 Posted November 15, 2023 BikerMart, Allan, I actually read the instructions that come with the manual, my mistake the horizontals are called rubbing strakes, and the verticals are called fenders, on the manual pictures 105 and 106 which makes way more sense. Also some pictures of the plans and text. More work on the hull. The rail is the kit supplied ply with walnut fascia and stained, not crazy with the look will probably fabricate one. Gonna play with some options this weekend. Started the work on the transom windows to replace the PE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BikerMart Posted November 15, 2023 Share #36 Posted November 15, 2023 I agree that some of the metal parts in the kit do leave a lot to be desired! The cannon barrels and carriages are awful, in my opinion. My Montanes build is on hold at the moment while I fit the quarterdeck on my Victory. Your build is coming along very nicely. Quote Finished: Billings Nordkap / Billings Boulogne Etaples / Billings Evelyn / Billings Elbjorn In progress: Billings HMS Endeavour / Billings HMS Bounty / Caldercraft HMS Pickle / Amati HMS Vanguard / Caldercraft HMS Victory / Caldercraft HMS Badger / Caldercraft HMS Diana / Caldercraft HMS Snake / Amati HMS Pegasus In the dim distant past: Model Slipway Wyeforce / Mountfleet Models Boston Typhoon (abandoned build) / Bluejacket Charles P. Notman (abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cmm4000 Posted January 18 Author Share #37 Posted January 18 Hi Biker Mart, Your Montanes is looking good! Been kinda busy so haven't posted for a while so here is some new pics. Alot of stuff lately is figuring out how to replace the PE/Cast parts with wood and manufacturing detail parts. Also made some feather boards for the Proxxon table saw just paint sticks and some hardware with Teflon wing nuts. Not going to use the PE stern gallery or cast parts so working on the detail in wood and brass to see which works/looks best. Wiring installed for the stern lights and planking begins on the poop deck. And last but not El Capitán and his favorite pet raptor on deck (he is a little big so I will be ordering his clone in a smaller scale Mr Whippy and ccoyle 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BikerMart Posted January 19 Share #38 Posted January 19 I admire your creativity! I plan to pretty much stick to using whatever is in the box; I certainly don't have the skills to fabricate as much as you do. Martin Mr Whippy 1 Quote Finished: Billings Nordkap / Billings Boulogne Etaples / Billings Evelyn / Billings Elbjorn In progress: Billings HMS Endeavour / Billings HMS Bounty / Caldercraft HMS Pickle / Amati HMS Vanguard / Caldercraft HMS Victory / Caldercraft HMS Badger / Caldercraft HMS Diana / Caldercraft HMS Snake / Amati HMS Pegasus In the dim distant past: Model Slipway Wyeforce / Mountfleet Models Boston Typhoon (abandoned build) / Bluejacket Charles P. Notman (abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cmm4000 Posted February 8 Author Share #39 Posted February 8 Hi Martin, Thank you for the compliment! My jeweler's saw set up and inlay tools. Mad some big progress with the stern and railing. The wire is for the stern lanterns and the official's cabins LEDs. RossR 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cmm4000 Posted February 15 Author Share #40 Posted February 15 Scratched the bow grating the kit stuff IMHO is way out of scale. Work on the bow details continues. Stove vents built, used brass black on the supplied parts, pretty happy with the results with a sooty look. Esap and wvdhee 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cmm4000 Posted February 23 Author Share #41 Posted February 23 Work continues on the bow and details. chris watton and ccoyle 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cmm4000 Posted March 18 Author Share #42 Posted March 18 Chris and Chris, Thank you for the thumbs I must be doing something right! Lots of progress but I have been away from posting for a while so here are updates. Finished the lower hull with seven coats of sealer and installed the rudder. Construction of the official's cabin and the jig for building the doors and windows. Constructed the display base out of spalted maple that I got from the cutoff box at the wood store also scored some curly maple. I have plans to use this on the ship in dry-dock the Norske Love. More of the official's cabin installing the hinges and door handles. Made good progress on the bow one side is finished. The jig to build the ladders and the ladders and fenders installed (I used beech for the fenders I could not get the walnut to cooperate, I also did them in two layers then doweled them in place. More of the deck furniture made. The channels from the kit are plywood and seemed to be to short so I have a longer set to cut and see how it works out I don't want to run out of channel for the standing rigging and I can always make them shorter. Also decided to use belaying pins per my question about the SJN. I think El Capitán got into the rum as he later fell and passed out on deck. Oh and now I get to do the other side. ccoyle 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyguy35 Posted March 19 Share #43 Posted March 19 I hope that when I get to making mine that it looks even half as good. Great work amazing wood work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cmm4000 Posted April 3 Author Share #44 Posted April 3 Tyguy35 Thank you! Just been doing detail, navigator cabins (I used different wood and caulking to make the officials quarters and the navigator cabins stand out a bit), rails, fenders, ladders and capstans. Gonna try making blocks, been playing with all the variables, size proportions, wood type, wood processing, machining and tumbling. I'm waiting on an ellipse template with less projection and some router bits. Looks like the hard part is going to be the mass production. The three types of wood so far castello boxwood, pear, and cherry from pen turning blanks. Once I'm happier with the prototypes and I get the production stage I'll post more photos of the block project. On the bright side I'm not going to do sails so I won't have to make as many blocks. Oh, El Capitán is back on his feet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cmm4000 Posted April 8 Author Share #45 Posted April 8 Just more detail work. Made a proto cannon to verify the height and milled the stock for the carriages using a table saw (The kit supplied cannons and carriages are horrid). All the detail is added to the capstains. My versions of the flag boxes and the ensign staff support. Holes drilled for the davits using a proxxon mill and a dividing head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cmm4000 Posted April 17 Author Share #46 Posted April 17 More dry-fit work on the bow, just some detail work left before things get set. Detail work on the hatches and gratings and got the gun tackle worked out so I can start mass production. The admiral got me a copy of Spanish Warships in the Age of Sail, 1700-1860: Design, Construction, Careers and Fates for Christmas I highly recommend it. I used several of the illustrations to help build the bow parts. mugje 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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