Amerigo Vespucci by DanielD - OcCre - 1:100

[DanielD]

15 hours ago, Bill97 said:

Thanks Daniel. I really like what you are doing with your AV and follow your lead a lot. Did you just toss all this OcCre thread or do you expect someday to have a use for it? 😊

Hi Bill, I tend to keep everything left over from each model. Sometimes I find a good use for the leftovers.

[Bill97]

Daniel what product did you use to attach your second planking?  On my first OcCre ship, the Endeavour, I just used the same wood glue I used to build the ship. It required patience and pins to hold each plank in place until the wood glue held.  I see in the OcCre videos they use some brand of contact cement to attach the second planking.  I have read other places where contact cement is not a great option. 

[DanielD]

52 minutes ago, Bill97 said:

Daniel what product did you use to attach your second planking?  On my first OcCre ship, the Endeavour, I just used the same wood glue I used to build the ship. It required patience and pins to hold each plank in place until the wood glue held.  I see in the OcCre videos they use some brand of contact cement to attach the second planking.  I have read other places where contact cement is not a great option. 

Hey Bill, I used Elmer’s Rubber Contact Cement. It is great, but it was hard to get the hang of using it so I think that is why some don’t like to use it. For me, I worked in small sections the length of the ship. Since the AV is a steel hull, there is no need to spend a ton of time making planks, so I used long plank sections from bow to stern. I started by drawing a line on the hull to place the first plank. Brush a thin coat of the cement on the back side of a couple planks and on the area along the hull for two or three planks. Let the glue dry! This is important! The glue will be dry to touch. Then carefully place a plank along the line that was drawn on the hull. Press the plank in place. Contact and pressure is what activates the glue, but it is permanent. You won’t be able to remove the plank without braking it into a bunch of pieces. Careful placement is critical! This is what makes it hard to use. However, once I got the hang of it, it was by far my favorite way to attach planks to the hull and I will use this technique on the next deck I do in the future. Again, once “pressed” in place, it’s immediately stuck and permanent and no wait time is needed between planks.

Edited September 14 by DanielD

[Bill97]

Thanks Daniel. I will look into that. IAs I mentioned I used the wood glue on my Endeavour but wonder if OcCre’s recommendation to use contact cement for the second planking might be a better product to use. I have more positioning time with the wood glue but the flip side is I have to hold the planks in place with pins while it sets up a few minutes. The planks also tend to bow a bit as well. 

Edited September 14 by Bill97

[Bill97]

Daniel I Googled Elmer’s Rubber Contact Cement but don’t find it. I find Elmer’s Rubber  Cement but not a contact cement.  The Elmer’s Rubber Cement does not read as if it is what you described.  Hummmm🤔

[DanielD]

1 hour ago, Bill97 said:

Daniel I Googled Elmer’s Rubber Contact Cement but don’t find it. I find Elmer’s Rubber  Cement but not a contact cement.  The Elmer’s Rubber Cement does not read as if it is what you described.  Hummmm🤔

Yes, rubber cement. It’s a type of contact cement, put glue on both pieces, wait for it to dry, and press together (contact) for the adhesive to activate.

[DanielD]

Good evening mates, today I met a milestone with my AV! I finally have all the yards completed with all the hardware (15 of them). Next up is to add the blocks to the standing rigging, then the furled sails…once I figure that out.

 

 

Edited September 20 by DanielD

[Bill97]

Daniel I have another curiosity. I looked back to see if I previously asked you this. Seems like we already covered this but maybe not. I looked back in your build to the area where you did your second planking and primer. I was pleasantly surprised to see you did in fact drill out the port holes before painting the hull colors. This is opposite to what the OcCre directions show. I like this for a number of reasons. My curiosity is did you spray the colors are use a brush?  How did you avoid paint going through the port holes (if you sprayed) and getting on the LED’s? I see that you painted the port hole inserts instead of leaving them brass. 

[DanielD]

1 hour ago, Bill97 said:

Daniel I have another curiosity. I looked back to see if I previously asked you this. Seems like we already covered this but maybe not. I looked back in your build to the area where you did your second planking and primer. I was pleasantly surprised to see you did in fact drill out the port holes before painting the hull colors. This is opposite to what the OcCre directions show. I like this for a number of reasons. My curiosity is did you spray the colors are use a brush?  How did you avoid paint going through the port holes (if you sprayed) and getting on the LED’s? I see that you painted the port hole inserts instead of leaving them brass. 

Hi Bill. Yes, I drilled the port holes and installed the grommets before painting. I paint most things using my air brush so I have complete control of where paint goes. When I sprayed the colors, I sprayed at an angle, not directly into the port holes, so what little paint makes it through the opening is not directed at the midline LEDs. As for my choice in painting the grommets, the porthole frames, take a look at any image of the real AV and you will find that the porthole frames are painted the same as the surrounding hull. I also added, not included in the kit, the porthole rain gutters which were all affixed prior to painting. Hope this helps.

 

Daniel

[Burgundy]

Good looking ship! Coming along quite well.

[Bill97]

Yes Daniel that helps a lot. I looked back and saw the little rain gutters. So just spray the hull at an angle to the port holes will solve that problem. Great idea. Thanks

 

Bill

[Bill97]

Well Daniel I have looked back through your build for a comment you made about your build somewhere but can’t find it. Even with all the precautions I took I still ended up getting some light bleed through an area of the deck right above the stern caused by the LEDs I put in to shine out the stern port holes. I also have some light bleed into a couple areas from one section of port hole lights into an adjacent section. I seem to remember you having a similar issue. I think you said there was pretty much nothing you could do about it. That is my thought as well. Maybe turn down the voltage regulator to reduce the LED brightness is all I can think of. 

[DanielD]

13 minutes ago, Bill97 said:

Well Daniel I have looked back through your build for a comment you made about your build somewhere but can’t find it. Even with all the precautions I took I still ended up getting some light bleed through an area of the deck right above the stern caused by the LEDs I put in to shine out the stern port holes. I also have some light bleed into a couple areas from one section of port hole lights into an adjacent section. I seem to remember you having a similar issue. I think you said there was pretty much nothing you could do about it. That is my thought as well. Maybe turn down the voltage regulator to reduce the LED brightness is all I can think of. 

Bill, nothing much you can do now. My next build I will paint the inside of the hull and the underside of the deck black, then an off white so that the light will reflect around eventually coming out the port holes. The light layer will reflect most of the light, but what leaks through the black layer will absorb the light so it can’t get through to the deck, etc. turning down the intensity of the LEDs didn’t make any improvement in my case.

[Bill97]

Yeah I followed your advice to do that from reading your build. I must not have gotten a good coat on that back inch or two on the stern deck area. I thought about overlaying the deck planks with another layer in that section but think it might show that slight edge difference. Will decide if it matters to me that much.