3DShipWright Posted December 31, 2023 Author Share #91 Posted December 31, 2023 15 hours ago, Martes said: Note, thought, that the Constitution does have cant framing both fore and aft, as we discussed earlier. So if you employed cant frames forward on the Confederacy, you possibly should consider doing the same on the aft end... Indeed. I have modelled cant frames on the aft, it was just a bit hard to see on the last screenshot. All frames behind the dashed line are cant frames. mtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3DShipWright Posted December 31, 2023 Author Share #92 Posted December 31, 2023 19 hours ago, Martes said: Exactly like it's neighbour to the right. If it were any other ship, I'd agree, but I'm not sure how that would be physically possible on the Confederacy. All plans I can find show 3 pairs (6) of vertical timbers - technically comprised of the transom, counter, and quarterboard timbers) at the stern. I have all of these already but then there is an additional outboard floating timber that connects to just the quarterboard. My question is - I think there needs to be a frame that essentially sits in the corner of where the tuck meets the lower counter and possibly extends up to the edge of the outboard timber. I just now added the highlighted piece. Can you tell me if this looks correct, and if not, how I can fix it? I know that may be asking a lot, so thanks in advance. mtaylor and wernerweiss 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martes Posted December 31, 2023 Share #93 Posted December 31, 2023 (edited) Thou shall not trust Hahn. But, seriously, he went so far with structure simplification, that it has nothing to do with how real ships were constructed. Only contemporary practices and examples (the same Constitution) can provide some clues to construction methods. Edited December 31, 2023 by Martes mtaylor and 3DShipWright 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3DShipWright Posted January 2 Author Share #94 Posted January 2 On 12/30/2023 at 2:59 PM, Lieste said: Rigged for navigation, the partitions are all appropriate, but on clearing for action most if not all were struck down, along with removable furniture. Indeed. And I 100% agree. I actually intend to go so far as to model the clip to which each individual removable partition was secured to the beam above and the raised foot board below. I will screenshot again when finished. Best, -Nate mtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lieste Posted January 2 Share #95 Posted January 2 19 minutes ago, 3DShipWright said: Indeed. And I 100% agree. I actually intend to go so far as to model the clip to which each individual removable partition was secured to the beam above and the raised foot board below. I will screenshot again when finished. Best, -Nate I was thinking you might want a parts group(s) option which also allows arranging the model as 'cleared for action' as well as set up for navigation... because mostly we only see the ships closed to the weather if the are extant, or in film representations, or in physical models... because they are prettier that way (and/or are .. 'supplied that way' and are weather proof) mtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3DShipWright Posted January 2 Author Share #96 Posted January 2 11 hours ago, Lieste said: I was thinking you might want a parts group(s) option which also allows arranging the model as 'cleared for action' as well as set up for navigation... Yes Sir, you got it. I started an armature on the ship a while ago, but presently, it only applies to the gunports. The end goal will be to allow any part of the ship that could move in real life also move in the model... including, but not limited to: The steering gear [the armature will control the rudder/tiller, inverse kinematics will spin the wheel at the helm. Drivers will be used to control shape keys on the curves so that the rudder chain and ropes move accordingly] Windows [slide up and down] Gunport Lids [open and shut independently] Sweep Port Lids [open and shut independently] Belfry [swings around the block] Capstan [rotates on z axis] Doors [open and shut independently] Battery [the cannons will be able to move and fire, though still gotta figure out to what extent is reasonable] Gregory, oakheart, Martes and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3DShipWright Posted February 4 Author Share #97 Posted February 4 (edited) Setting up the standing rigging and getting a preliminary feel for how the yards will look. Edited February 4 by 3DShipWright mtaylor, chris watton, wernerweiss and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3DShipWright Posted February 4 Author Share #98 Posted February 4 From another angle. The figurehead is temporary. mtaylor, Martes and chris watton 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3DShipWright Posted February 4 Author Share #99 Posted February 4 Forgive the repeated topic postings - I think I'm close to finding a 'lossless' image resampling method that will allow you guys to actually see what I see, because sadly, every image I've shared comes out unbelievably blurry... That said, there is hope! I finally bit the bullet and did the scale down in photoshop, so lets see how this goes... @Martes - returning to a topic from long ago, I did some updates to the relief material, and I believe them to be historically accurate. Turns out, they were neither bronze, nor leifed with metallic paints. They were simply the 'sad colours' which your reference material I learned a bit more about. Turquoise-ish color became popular among American ships around this period, because they found that ochres in American soil produced more of a green hue than those in England. I can personally atest to this as, even though I now live in New England, I grew up in the south where lime and real turquoise was abundant (not saying there were literal gemstones in my sand box, but greenish dust was common. But I digress... If you mix everything together the resulting 'sad colour' you [can] get in America is a lot more grey than ochres in England. If you then mix in a little bit of blue paint, you get a material that very closely resembles patina, which captains would use to make their vessels look far more expensive than they actually were. Martes, CDR_Ret, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martes Posted February 4 Share #100 Posted February 4 1 hour ago, 3DShipWright said: If you then mix in a little bit of blue paint, you get a material that very closely resembles patina, which captains would use to make their vessels look far more expensive than they actually were. Which is a very plausible explanation :) mtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
64Pacific Posted March 6 Share #101 Posted March 6 This is quite the project that you have completed, thank you for sharing! I've always wanted to do a ship in 3D but spend way too much time using 3D CAD and have trouble convincing myself to grab the mouse after work, however, this thread makes me want to try it! mtaylor and CDR_Ret 2 Quote Scott - British Columbia, Canada. Current build: Malaspina Straits - Plastic tug scratch build Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3DShipWright Posted March 11 Author Share #102 Posted March 11 @64Pacific - Thank you so much for the kind words. While I won't undersell the amount of time or tediousness of such an undertaking, I absolutely love following the projects of the other 3D artists on this forum and draw continued inspiration from their works. Specific shout outs to @CDR_Ret and @Martes for their continuous updates (both blender users) that keep me engaged in my own projects, even if I'm not as disciplined at sharing regularily. And many other talented artists I many have missed. Finally, from an aspirational perspective, I'm still very humbled at what @herask was able to do on his swan-class (HMS Pegasus) 3D model. It is one of the most comprehensive digital ship models I've ever seen, even among the professional 3D artist's portfolios over at ArtStation. In point of fact, it's that level of detail that I hope Confederacy has when finished. Point is, give it a go! There's a great community here to cheer you on and provide assistance should you need it. Best, -Nate herask, oakheart, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3DShipWright Posted March 23 Author Share #103 Posted March 23 Hi Everyone, So after a bit of a hiatus, I'm back with the first of three major update posts to Confederacy. In this post, I'll cover updates to the bow and a couple of minor enhancements to the outer hull. Change log is first, photos at the end. As always, feedback most welcome! Upper headrail remodeled to taper properly. Pendant joint added at the top. Carling atop the upper headrail remodeled; trim rail now blends smoothly where it meets the rail Lower headrail remodeled as two distinct pieces that follow the hull and connect with the bottom of the catheads Upper and lower headrails are now adorned with decorative reliefs Hanging knees installed beneath the catheads Boomkin holsters installed the upper headrails to support the bumpkins Beakhead platform flattened, height adjusted; position of the doorsand round houses adjusted accordingly Ledges that connect the beakhead platform to the prow grating installed Seats of ease installed in front of the bumpkins atop the grating Color theme of the bulkhead has been updated; doors and roundhouses are now white; decorative motif (white on blue) carried over from the side of the hull Gammoning slots cut into the gammoning knee have been corrected so they aren't covered by the headtimbers Safety netting added to the headrail barricade Tip of the cutwater has been cut back a bit to accommodate the figurehead Horseshoe plates flipped from heel to toe (I had them on backwards originally) Bower anchors haver been upscaled to their (nearly) correct size Chain plates, channel ties, and straps (lanyards) in place on the forward channels; main and mizzen channels in progress Inboard and outboard rings installed on all gunport lids; outboard rings each have their own bones in the armature allowing them to pivot as the rope pulls the port open And now the photos: JerryTodd, wernerweiss and CDR_Ret 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDR_Ret Posted March 23 Share #104 Posted March 23 Beautiful, Nate! Terry Quote Current project: Reconstructing plans for Matthew Turner's brigantine Galilee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
64Pacific Posted March 31 Share #105 Posted March 31 Cool! mtaylor 1 Quote Scott - British Columbia, Canada. Current build: Malaspina Straits - Plastic tug scratch build Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryTodd Posted April 6 Share #106 Posted April 6 Why do the lower dead-eye strops and chains look like rope or cable? They should be iron mtaylor 1 Quote Jerry Todd Click to go to that build log Constellation ~ RC sloop of war c.1856 in 1:36 scale Macedonian ~ RC British frigate c.1812 in 1:36 scale Pride of Baltimore ~ RC Baltimore Clipper c.1981 in 1:20 scale Gazela Primeiro ~ RC Barkentine c.1979 in 1:36 scale Naval Guns 1850s~1870s ~ 3D Modeling & Printing My Web Site My Thingiverse stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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