Jaager Posted February 23 #1 Posted February 23 Following up on email spam from Foredom - I found this tool - diverted into a wax shaping niche - it looks like it might work for various edge shaping jobs on wood. It has a grip zone that may work with a panavise-type mount. It could solve a bevel cut need - with a fence and a rotating table. Probably a hammer looking for a nail, but it looks neat. Vlax, No Idea, paul ron and 4 others 6 1 Quote NRG member 50 years Current: NMS HMS Ajax 1767 - 74-gun 3rd rate - 1:192 POF exploration - works but too intense -no margin for error HMS Centurion 1732 - 60-gun 4th rate - POF Navall Timber framing HMS Beagle 1831 refiit 10-gun brig with a small mizzen - POF Navall (ish) Timber framing The U.S. Ex. Ex. 1838-1842 Flying Fish 1838 pilot schooner - POF framed - ready for stern timbers Porpose II 1836 brigantine/brig - POF framed - ready for hawse and stern timbers Vincennes 1825 Sloop-of-War - POF timbers assembled, need shaping Peacock 1828 Sloop-of -War - POF timbers ready for assembly Sea Gull 1838 pilot schooner - POF timbers ready for assembly Relief 1835 packet hull USN ship - POF timbers ready for assembly Other Portsmouth 1843 Sloop-of-War - POF timbers ready for assembly Le Commerce de Marseilles 1788 118 cannons - POF framed La Renommee 1744 Frigate - POF framed - ready for hawse and stern timbers
Bob Cleek Posted February 23 #2 Posted February 23 (edited) Now that does look handy. It's like a miniature router table. It took me a while to find on line: Wolf Tools - WolfTools About $130.00, plus, you have to but a separate Foredom attachment to mount it to your workbench or other solid holding surface so you can use it with both hands free to handle the workpiece. Have you seen the similar rig from Vanda-Lay Industries? ROUTER TABLE (vanda-layindustries.com) It's all CNC'd aluminum and has a much larger table for about three quarters the price. The Vanda-Lay router table doesn't appear to permit swinging the bit, but if one wanted a beveled edge, all they'd have to do is use a cone-shaped burr. These two sort of compare in the same way Proxxon compares to Byrnes! It's advertised with a Dremel as the power source, but I spoke with them some time ago and they said they could supply a 1" Foredom handpiece holder instead of the Dremel holder on special order. Edited February 23 by Bob Cleek mtaylor and Canute 2 Quote
No Idea Posted February 23 #3 Posted February 23 Interesting - do you have a link?? mtaylor, Vlax and Canute 3 Quote
Kauz Posted February 23 #4 Posted February 23 Rio Grande Tools sell it: Wolf Wax Adjustable Wax Trimmer Jaager, Canute and mtaylor 3 Quote
Jaager Posted February 23 Author #5 Posted February 23 The main Foredom site with this is https://www.foredom.net/product/a-wt1728-wolf-adjustable-trimmer-for-wax/ The price is in the same ballpark. I have the TX motor since it is wood for its target and torque is needed rather than speed. I have matches if I want to start a fire. The prices associated with the GRS Benchmate vise system are a bit startling. No Idea, mtaylor and Canute 2 1 Quote NRG member 50 years Current: NMS HMS Ajax 1767 - 74-gun 3rd rate - 1:192 POF exploration - works but too intense -no margin for error HMS Centurion 1732 - 60-gun 4th rate - POF Navall Timber framing HMS Beagle 1831 refiit 10-gun brig with a small mizzen - POF Navall (ish) Timber framing The U.S. Ex. Ex. 1838-1842 Flying Fish 1838 pilot schooner - POF framed - ready for stern timbers Porpose II 1836 brigantine/brig - POF framed - ready for hawse and stern timbers Vincennes 1825 Sloop-of-War - POF timbers assembled, need shaping Peacock 1828 Sloop-of -War - POF timbers ready for assembly Sea Gull 1838 pilot schooner - POF timbers ready for assembly Relief 1835 packet hull USN ship - POF timbers ready for assembly Other Portsmouth 1843 Sloop-of-War - POF timbers ready for assembly Le Commerce de Marseilles 1788 118 cannons - POF framed La Renommee 1744 Frigate - POF framed - ready for hawse and stern timbers
Jaager Posted February 24 Author #6 Posted February 24 On 2/23/2024 at 1:31 AM, Bob Cleek said: Have you seen the similar rig from Vanda-Lay Industries? No, I have not. I wasn't looking for the Wolf fixture either. I just thought that it might offer a possibility for someone. It is mostly to have it on the record and see what discussion came from it. I have a StewMac version that is a router - it becomes sorta like the above if rotated - but I would have to fake a fence. There are holes to mount one. Routers certainly take up a lot of pages in tool catalogs. I just have not found a need. They seem to be very fast, violent, and eager to eat more wood than is intended. I tried to use an under the table setup as an edger for my 8x4 rough, but failed to get a smooth face. My 10" tablesaw did a better job - burned a bit - but the result rides my bandsaw fence better than the sawmill face. mtaylor, Canute and Bob Cleek 3 Quote NRG member 50 years Current: NMS HMS Ajax 1767 - 74-gun 3rd rate - 1:192 POF exploration - works but too intense -no margin for error HMS Centurion 1732 - 60-gun 4th rate - POF Navall Timber framing HMS Beagle 1831 refiit 10-gun brig with a small mizzen - POF Navall (ish) Timber framing The U.S. Ex. Ex. 1838-1842 Flying Fish 1838 pilot schooner - POF framed - ready for stern timbers Porpose II 1836 brigantine/brig - POF framed - ready for hawse and stern timbers Vincennes 1825 Sloop-of-War - POF timbers assembled, need shaping Peacock 1828 Sloop-of -War - POF timbers ready for assembly Sea Gull 1838 pilot schooner - POF timbers ready for assembly Relief 1835 packet hull USN ship - POF timbers ready for assembly Other Portsmouth 1843 Sloop-of-War - POF timbers ready for assembly Le Commerce de Marseilles 1788 118 cannons - POF framed La Renommee 1744 Frigate - POF framed - ready for hawse and stern timbers
Jaager Posted February 25 Author #7 Posted February 25 @Bob Cleek Probably unintentionally glib above - I mean a thanks response With your contribution we have three apparatus that will potentially do the same job, two with a Dremel and two and maybe three with the Foredom - StewMac has a Foredom collet hand piece with threads that match the Dremel - if the Vanda-Lay is a tread mount - no custom fit is needed. The sobering factor is that a bevel of significant length is a rare function in my experience. My take home lesson from using the StewMac as a router - with a 220 drill bit tip as a cutter - to cut a keel rabbet - a hand chisel is the better way. Run-on thinking: Something like these could work to shape the "OG" type pattern on rails if there was an easy way to fix a flat cutter blade to a central shaft. But for all of the work to develop and shape and balance the tool, , hand scraping may be just as efficient. Canute, mtaylor, ferretmary1 and 1 other 4 Quote NRG member 50 years Current: NMS HMS Ajax 1767 - 74-gun 3rd rate - 1:192 POF exploration - works but too intense -no margin for error HMS Centurion 1732 - 60-gun 4th rate - POF Navall Timber framing HMS Beagle 1831 refiit 10-gun brig with a small mizzen - POF Navall (ish) Timber framing The U.S. Ex. Ex. 1838-1842 Flying Fish 1838 pilot schooner - POF framed - ready for stern timbers Porpose II 1836 brigantine/brig - POF framed - ready for hawse and stern timbers Vincennes 1825 Sloop-of-War - POF timbers assembled, need shaping Peacock 1828 Sloop-of -War - POF timbers ready for assembly Sea Gull 1838 pilot schooner - POF timbers ready for assembly Relief 1835 packet hull USN ship - POF timbers ready for assembly Other Portsmouth 1843 Sloop-of-War - POF timbers ready for assembly Le Commerce de Marseilles 1788 118 cannons - POF framed La Renommee 1744 Frigate - POF framed - ready for hawse and stern timbers
Bob Cleek Posted February 25 #8 Posted February 25 10 hours ago, Jaager said: But for all of the work to develop and shape and balance the tool, , hand scraping may be just as efficient. Exactly so, and especially for the relatively limited amount of this sort of work that we see modeling ships. I use the Artesania Latina scrapers and they work fine. I clamp them in a jeweler's hand vise as close to the edge as possible to make them rigid. Amazon.com: Artesania Latina #27300 Micro Shapers, Set A, 3 Plates : Arts, Crafts & Sewing mtaylor and bruce d 2 Quote
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