Ancre.fr now offering resin cannon barrels for some of their monographs!

[uss frolick]

Huzza! I just got the email this morning. Here for example is the L'Egyptienne page. Scroll down the tan box and tick "1/2 serie de canons au 1/48"  to see a picture. In this case it is for a half battery in 1/48 for 110 Euros.

 

https://ancre.fr/fr/monographies/102-legyptienne-fregate-de-24-1799-9782952740654.html#/langue-1_2_serie_de_canones_a_1_48

 

Those ships offering cannon sets, in differing scales, are:

 

 

LE FLEURON : 1/48
LA NÉRÉIDE : 1/48
HERMIONE : 1/48
LA CREOLE : 1/48 
Caronade de 12 livres : 1/12

CHALOUPE Armée 1/36 1/24 1/18
L'AMARANTE : 1/36 et 1/24
ARTESIEN : 1/48 et 1/36
LA BELLE-POULE  : 1/48  

MAHONESA: 1/48 et 1/36 
LA BELLE : 1/48 et 1/36 
LE REQUIN : 1/48 
LA VENUS : 1/48 
LA VOLAGE : 1/24 
EGYPTIENNE : 1/48
 

 

Edited November 25 by uss frolick

[dafi]

I saw some of these prints in Evian on the exhibition of the french arsenal group on the booth of Ancre and Mr. Berti. Those guns and other parts are very well done!

What a great addition!

XXXDAn

Edited December 7 by dafi

[Fritzlindsay]

On 11/25/2024 at 7:04 AM, uss frolick said:

In this case it is for a half battery in 1/48 for 110 Euros.

This seems very high priced.  From the information they provide it looks like they only send the barrels, not the carriages.   I have never paid more than about US$0.80 per barrel for 3D printed in 1:48 if I provide the 3D drawings.  I found out there are a lot of STL drawings for cannon here at MSW available for free.   https://thenrg.org/page-1075420  Hope they will add some Spanish and French gun pattern drawings in the future.  There is a great string of posts here as well. 

Fritz

 

 

[uss frolick]

It's a good deal, if you're not set up to 3D print, which I am not, even if only the barrels are offered. (I still own DVD's!)

 

But there is another French vender who offers a small number of Ancre sets in both metal and resin barrels (click 'l'artillerie' in the left menu):

 

http://www.lahoche.fr

 

 

 

 

[Fritzlindsay]

WOW he has exorbitant prices for cannon barrels.  Are any of his patterns correct?  The Gribeauval system came into use in 1765 and they look nothing like what he is offering for that time period.   Below is the Gribeauval pattern on the left and the chart on the la hoche website.  

Fritz

[Lieste]

Marine pattern iron guns are not interchangeable with field or siege artillery in bronze.

[Fritzlindsay]

On 12/10/2024 at 7:37 AM, Lieste said:

Marine pattern iron guns are not interchangeable with field or siege artillery in bronze.

Thank you Lieste.  What pattern was used by the navy if the Gribeauval was for field artillery only.   

Fritz

[Lieste]

There are various ordinances, reglements over the years, I see records for 1674, 1685, 1689, 1721, 1758 (which iirc is Maritz), 1766, 1779 (which had short and long patterns for most of the smaller natures {possibly the second Maritz, but unsure) and 1786 (6-36 livres, with short pattern for the 8 and 6, as well as brass 24 and 18 livre guns and the 1 livre perrier... and followed in 1787 by 4 livre, long and short and the brass Obusier de Vaisseau, which system is the Manson pattern)

I've mostly been interested in the long serving Manson guns, and know their dimensions quite well, but have summary notes for the others ( taken from their tables of dimension and mouldings - length, wt and the number and general form of their mouldings in notes - all of the iron guns are *much* simpler than the corresponding brass guns, but there are more mouldings and two reinforces on the patterns before 1786, reduced for the Manson pattern to a single reinforce (but with a moulding half way on the reinforce for the two largest), and simpler breech forms. Further simplified for the 1820 no1 and no2 30 livres and the 1824 short patterns for 36, 24 and 18.

My currently open notes don't include the largest guns for the earlier periods, and the 18 was (initially) the largest type feasible with the 24 then 36 following as iron casting was perfected.

Edited December 15 by Lieste