cdogg Posted December 10, 2013 Share #1 Posted December 10, 2013 I just grabbed the Mamoli Golden Hind kit last week, and it has a major issue that may be of great concern for some builders. The decorative silk screened mahogany is no longer produced by Mamoli. According to Alessandro at Mamoli, they were having too many issues with the paint staying in the mahogany so they replaced the parts with card stock. They started doing this with the kit about 4 years ago. So, if your kit is older than 2009, you may get the silk screened parts but they may look like they are damaged I am guessing. You can imagine my shock when I pulled the cardboard sheet out of the box, the one part I really wanted to see!!! I was told I could either use the cardstock cut out or take 0.5mm mahogany strips to paint them myself. I suppose with some practice it could work. Just a heads up. The kit looks pretty good otherwise, although the instructions are not very friendly and might scare off a first time builder. This will be my spring 2014 project. Anyone else on MSW have this kit? mtaylor 1 Quote Casey "I drank what?" - Socrates Current Builds: Corel Scotland Baltic Ketch 1775 AL Mare Nostrum 1/570 RMS Titanic - Revell Plastic Model Kit Finished Builds: Midwest The Dinghy Midwest Chesapeake Bay Flattie Midwest Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Future Builds: Mamoli Golden Hind Mamoli Black Prince AL Swift Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdogg Posted December 10, 2013 Author Share #2 Posted December 10, 2013 Just got another email from Mamoli, apparently the parts all used to be handmade but know since they are laser cut that part was causing problems for them to manufacture. I must say I am impressed with their support, just want to let everyone know. mtaylor and jbford 2 Quote Casey "I drank what?" - Socrates Current Builds: Corel Scotland Baltic Ketch 1775 AL Mare Nostrum 1/570 RMS Titanic - Revell Plastic Model Kit Finished Builds: Midwest The Dinghy Midwest Chesapeake Bay Flattie Midwest Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Future Builds: Mamoli Golden Hind Mamoli Black Prince AL Swift Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert_Sailor Posted December 16, 2013 Share #3 Posted December 16, 2013 You could try taking the card stock and scanning the image, then reprint the image as a waterslide decal or a "peel 'n stick" applique... That way you wouldn't have to worry about paint or extra planking layers. I've done this a few times with success.. cdogg and ulrich 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdogg Posted December 18, 2013 Author Share #4 Posted December 18, 2013 Thanks Sailor, that sounds like a plan. Do you have any pics I could see of your decal work? The thing that bugs me about the card part is it has the mahogany is painted in with the paint, which we all know will not match the real mahogany on the ship. I would have to cut out the prepainted wood sections and it would probably go. Quote Casey "I drank what?" - Socrates Current Builds: Corel Scotland Baltic Ketch 1775 AL Mare Nostrum 1/570 RMS Titanic - Revell Plastic Model Kit Finished Builds: Midwest The Dinghy Midwest Chesapeake Bay Flattie Midwest Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Future Builds: Mamoli Golden Hind Mamoli Black Prince AL Swift Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert_Sailor Posted December 20, 2013 Share #5 Posted December 20, 2013 I would.. but how do upload images .?. On the old MSW 1.0 it was easy.. WHere's the controls on this version? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted December 20, 2013 Share #6 Posted December 20, 2013 Desert Sailor: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/540-how-to-add-pictures-in-your-posts-and-pms/ Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert_Sailor Posted December 20, 2013 Share #7 Posted December 20, 2013 (edited) OK I figured it out... Yeh!! The Victory sternplate is from Mamoli's 1/200 scale kit.. The stern plate part was very poor on detail. So I took a photo of the Heller's 1/100 plastic Victory ( great details), put the image into Photoshop to clean it up ... then reduced the image 50% to 1/200 scale.... printed it on adhesive backed paper and instant sternplate ( galleries, too...) The rest are water slide decals I made with my PC The hardest were the decals on the Titanic's life rings... Getting the curvature right took several tries... Let me know if you need any tips... Also attached is my Mamoli Golden Hind for an example... I may have had the older kit as the decoravtive panels did not have the "mahogany" problem you have.. I just had to add a .5 mm thick planking outer surface to form a pocket for the cardstock to blend into... .. Edited December 20, 2013 by Desert_Sailor WackoWolf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdogg Posted December 21, 2013 Author Share #8 Posted December 21, 2013 Wow, those look great! I am definitely going to try this, thanks! Quote Casey "I drank what?" - Socrates Current Builds: Corel Scotland Baltic Ketch 1775 AL Mare Nostrum 1/570 RMS Titanic - Revell Plastic Model Kit Finished Builds: Midwest The Dinghy Midwest Chesapeake Bay Flattie Midwest Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Future Builds: Mamoli Golden Hind Mamoli Black Prince AL Swift Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbford Posted December 30, 2013 Share #9 Posted December 30, 2013 the Mamoli Mayflower also has the printed card stock. Cutting and gluing would be easy to do, but think we will go with paint. The pattern will definitely be simplified, maybe just some painted stripes and one big flower. The Mayflower looks like a nice kit, and has bulwarks made of strip wood rather than ply. Bending and gluing large plywood strips reduces the building enjoyment for this geezer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdogg Posted December 30, 2013 Author Share #10 Posted December 30, 2013 Rick, I feel exactly the same way. Just doesn't seem right putting the card stock in there. I like Sailor's decal idea too, but I really want to try to paint this thing Quote Casey "I drank what?" - Socrates Current Builds: Corel Scotland Baltic Ketch 1775 AL Mare Nostrum 1/570 RMS Titanic - Revell Plastic Model Kit Finished Builds: Midwest The Dinghy Midwest Chesapeake Bay Flattie Midwest Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Future Builds: Mamoli Golden Hind Mamoli Black Prince AL Swift Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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