Securing the lanyards of the deadeyes

[dafi]

Here is a copy of the question I already put in my building report:

 

 

In an earlier Version I still had added some lashings in between the lanyards as to be seen on todays Vic, Constitution and some literature. See the green arrows.

 

 

Was this in use already in 1805?

 

 

Jan already replied:

 

We all started liking the pic, as it is incredible that you do these lashings in this scale, but that's not an answer to your question.

I can only refer to Lees and Marqhuardt: they don't show these lashings. That does suggest that it is of a later period...

(although, as you seem to be looking at a way to get as many knots in a line as possible, that is not the answer you are looking for   )

 

Jan

 

 

The earliest prouve I found is Nares Seamanship 1862. As the lanyard is officially only fixed with one half hitch it does make a very useful addition. So could it be acceptable to display this about 1805?

 

It is meant for this setup.

 

 

Here a nive detail to the topic: Götheborg on the way to China, working on the lanyards 3.10 and cutting of the above mentioned lashing at 3.30 :-)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oa8Z0Dyigt0

 

Cheers, Daniel

Edited June 2, 2014 by dafi

[Tadeusz43]

Lanyards fixing on some ships:

 

Batavia 1628

Jylland 1860

Vasa 1628

Victory 1778 / 1800

 

Tadeusz

 

My models:

From kits

Vasa, HMS Victory, Le Solei Royale, Friesland

From scratch

HMS Warrior 1860, Esplanade, Grosse Yacht

Norman’s ship, HMS Speedy, La Royale

Peter von Danzig

Polacca XVII cent.

Current project:

SS Savannah 1818

[dafi]

Hello Tadeusz,

 

if one looks close, you can see the things on the picture of the Vic :-)

 

 

XXXDAn

[Richard Griffith]

For additional commentary, you might want to consult James Lees' book "The Masting and Rigging of English Ships of War", page 42.

 

Duff

[dafi]

It is like one of those searching games, one has to know where to look at :-)

 

Victory

 

 

Endeavour

 

 

Göthebourg

 

 

 

Constitution: It looks like the seizing is used to secure the free end, but I believe having seen those seizings also on the front side.

 

 

XXXDAn

[Izzy Madd]

With the incredible amount of friction involved with any natural rope passing through six plain holes as in a pair of deadeyes id be very surprised if even a half hitch was needed to keep them in place. As just a double hitch is all that's neaded to keep an entire ship at dockside because of the friction alone.and on a deadeye it's being tripled on the same rope.

 

For example one turn around a post is enough friction to enable one person. Unaided to hold the weight of four climbers plus a stretcher. Without any need for that person to be anchored.

 

Here is a copy of the question I already put in my building report:

 

 

In an earlier Version I still had added some lashings in between the lanyards as to be seen on todays Vic, Constitution and some literature. See the green arrows.

 

f133t3028p41037n2.jpg

 

Was this in use already in 1805?

 

 

Jan already replied:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The earliest prouve I found is Nares Seamanship 1862. As the lanyard is officially only fixed with one half hitch it does make a very useful addition. So could it be acceptable to display this about 1805?

 

It is meant for this setup.

 

 

Here a nive detail to the topic: Götheborg on the way to China, working on the lanyards 3.10 and cutting of the above mentioned lashing at 3.30 :-)

 

Cheers, Daniel

[allanyed]

Thanks for sharing the video!

 

Allan

[Ulises Victoria]

What a nice video. Thank you!!!!