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Ray reacted to Barbossa in HMS Diana By Barbossa - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 - The 1794 Attempt
Hi Ulises,
Thanks for showing interest
Humbrol paints were OK but I made the decision to move over to Acrylic paints and the A.V. (Acrilicos Valejo) brand deliver quality.
Here's an overview
Regarding to the lifeboats : I can recommend the paint with ref n° 311 New Wood : it's -in my opinion- pretty close to the "wooden" look I was aiming for
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Ray got a reaction from GrandpaPhil in HMS Diana 1794 ship's boats by Ray - FINISHED - 1/48 - SMALL
The mast bowsprit and the rigging has now been completed, with the ropes, buckets, barrels,boat hooks,and oars added, only the barrels were bought the rest made,I will cover that on the next boat in the group,I also made a simple stand out of ply,so the 26ft launch is finished,one down three to go.
Mast
Stand
Rigging started
Inboard views
Finished boat
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Ray got a reaction from peveka in HMS Diana 1794 ship's boats by Ray - FINISHED - 1/48 - SMALL
The mast bowsprit and the rigging has now been completed, with the ropes, buckets, barrels,boat hooks,and oars added, only the barrels were bought the rest made,I will cover that on the next boat in the group,I also made a simple stand out of ply,so the 26ft launch is finished,one down three to go.
Mast
Stand
Rigging started
Inboard views
Finished boat
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Ray got a reaction from de_kryger in HMS Diana 1794 ship's boats by Ray - FINISHED - 1/48 - SMALL
The mast bowsprit and the rigging has now been completed, with the ropes, buckets, barrels,boat hooks,and oars added, only the barrels were bought the rest made,I will cover that on the next boat in the group,I also made a simple stand out of ply,so the 26ft launch is finished,one down three to go.
Mast
Stand
Rigging started
Inboard views
Finished boat
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Ray got a reaction from Mike Y in HMS Diana 1794 ship's boats by Ray - FINISHED - 1/48 - SMALL
The mast bowsprit and the rigging has now been completed, with the ropes, buckets, barrels,boat hooks,and oars added, only the barrels were bought the rest made,I will cover that on the next boat in the group,I also made a simple stand out of ply,so the 26ft launch is finished,one down three to go.
Mast
Stand
Rigging started
Inboard views
Finished boat
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Ray got a reaction from Barbossa in HMS Diana 1794 ship's boats by Ray - FINISHED - 1/48 - SMALL
The mast bowsprit and the rigging has now been completed, with the ropes, buckets, barrels,boat hooks,and oars added, only the barrels were bought the rest made,I will cover that on the next boat in the group,I also made a simple stand out of ply,so the 26ft launch is finished,one down three to go.
Mast
Stand
Rigging started
Inboard views
Finished boat
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Ray got a reaction from iosto in HMS Diana 1794 ship's boats by Ray - FINISHED - 1/48 - SMALL
Scratch build Dana’s boats @1/48
a 26ft Launch,18ft Cutter,24ft Cutter and a 32ft Pinace
After building a set of much modified ships boats for my HMS Diana which I really enjoyed doing, I decided to scratch build a set at 1/48 scale, using the plans in A O S Diana and include masts and rigging, the builds will run along side my deans marine kit build of the WW2 military class trawler HMS Royal Marine (bought on ebay for less than half price) as practice build before building the Hunt Class Destroyer HMS Tanatside my father served on her at the time of the d-day landings on Omaha.
The boats will not be woodworking master builds, leaving the outside hull showing bare planking, they will be painted as they would have been in service,which gave them protection, when stored on-board ship, for weeks or months at a time,I will build them depicting carvel built hulls which according to Ships Boats by q e may they would have been for foreign service,as the clinker built boats were for English Channel use. So they will be a mixture of wood and styrene and I will use grating and anchor kits and possibly oars.
First photos show the set of boats on my model of HMS Diana,these were virtually scratch built.
The first boat a 26ft launch.
The frame plans used, were from The Anatomy of the ship HMS Diana, copies of the half frames were doubled, and then glued to 2mm ply,and the keel plan to 3mm ply,I then did a mock up of a section to see how the planking would look with the first planking with .5mm timber and the second with 1mm. The frame were cut out with my £25 jigsaw buy from good old ebay, I cut the frame centres so they could be broken out and this would leave the ribs in the hull, but added some strips to hold everything together whilst planking. I hope the frames left in the hull will be OK and look like a nice set of ribs, but I do have a contingency plan if they are to rough I will remove them and replace them with dummy ribs made from plastic strip which I know will look nice and sharp and after all they will be painted.
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Ray reacted to Beef Wellington in HMS Jason by Beef Wellington - Caldercraft - 1:64 - Artois-class frigate modified from HMS Diana 1794
Thanks for the interest and encouragement Pat, Eamonn, Mobbsie, Tom and the likes.
Still here slowly cracking away at things. Overall shot, with the unfinished boxwood and dampened to bring out the colour a bit...
One thing that becomes very apparent with a finish is the grain in the boxwood. I've been trying to keep this 'harmonious' but its amazing how much the colour and grain can vary in a way I hadn't really noticed on other models. Not sure if my boxwood is just more grainy than average. Anyway, think the finish I'll use will probably not highlight quite as much as dampening with water.
Even though I'm not following the exact planking pattern, I'm trying to apply the principles to get some practice. I'm not darkening the plank edges, so they're hard to see.... . This also explains why this is going so slowly. Even around the sweep ports they have need to be built up and keyed in. (Don't know what this type of planking is called...anyone?)
One trick I found handy to get as straight an edge as possible on the recessed ports is to edge glue some strip together and shape off the model. Seems to work nicely.
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Ray got a reaction from GrandpaPhil in HMS Diana 1794 ship's boats by Ray - FINISHED - 1/48 - SMALL
This update is just on the painting progress
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Ray got a reaction from GrandpaPhil in HMS Diana 1794 ship's boats by Ray - FINISHED - 1/48 - SMALL
The stern seats were added and the winch and davit made, the davit will just be stored on board as it cannot be in place with the rudder mounted,the rudder has also be made, but I will alter the arm,the wash strakes have been added to the hull and the oar slots cut,the boat has been masked up and sprayed with quite a few coats of primer rubbed down after every two coats. Spray painting the boats will be a new venture as I have invested in a small compressor and air brush, and it will be a learning curve, but so far after just doing the primer, I am well pleased with the results, the main thing learnt so far is just how thin you need to get the paint (acrylic) to get a good result.
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Ray got a reaction from GrandpaPhil in HMS Diana 1794 ship's boats by Ray - FINISHED - 1/48 - SMALL
With the ribs fitted the inside has now been fitted out with the floor and decking.
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Ray got a reaction from Barbossa in HMS Diana 1794 ship's boats by Ray - FINISHED - 1/48 - SMALL
The hull was double planked firstly with .5x3mm planking, sanded down, and the second planking was 1x4mm, all planking was fixed with std super glue, after the second planking, had been sanded down this gave a hull thickness of around 1mm. The inner part of the frames were broken out exposing the ply ribs, I thought they looked to rough so I decided to use the contingency plan and removed the ribs firstly I added the false keel again from evergreen styrene, I then sanded the inside of the hull,and then added the dummy ribs with styrene which look even and sharp.
Planking
Finished hull
frame removal
Keel added
Inside hull ribs removed and sanded first dummy rib in
New set of ribs
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Ray got a reaction from Barbossa in HMS Diana 1794 ship's boats by Ray - FINISHED - 1/48 - SMALL
This update is just on the painting progress
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Ray got a reaction from Beef Wellington in HMS Diana 1794 ship's boats by Ray - FINISHED - 1/48 - SMALL
This update is just on the painting progress
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Ray reacted to druxey in Greenwich Hospital barge of 1832 by druxey - FINISHED - 1:48 scale
Thanks, everyone, for your comments.
Steven: I've used this method with carvel construction, but with one difference: frames first. You can either file grooves in the plug for the frames and bend them in, or form the plug to inside of frame. I use the first method. In both cases the plug is made deeper and extends above the sheer line. (You can see this set back area in shadow in the photograph.) This area is used to spot-glue the frames to. Just make sure everything is well waxed to prevent sticking! The boat looks a little rough when first taken off the plug, but cleans up nicely as you can see.
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Ray reacted to Barbossa in HMS Diana By Barbossa - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 - The 1794 Attempt
Thanks Mark & Jason and all the likes.
Combined with a caliper, the level tool was quite inhandy for the job.
By holding the dowel close to the leveltool against the light, the exeeding areas came out nicely.
Given that the diameter of the "curved " dowel allows this and the curve is not that big, this might help
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Ray reacted to Beef Wellington in HMS Jason by Beef Wellington - Caldercraft - 1:64 - Artois-class frigate modified from HMS Diana 1794
Too kind Sjors
Quick update...I'd mentioned earlier that I had been trying to decide on whether to install the venting ports. Well, I could delay no longer and had to make a decision....and decided to go for it. Hopefully pictures below are self explanatory, but the reason I was wary was because these ports need to integrate into the thickstuff of the wale. Positioning proved to be a challenge as these should follow the line of the deck, not the wale. Of course once the lids are installed these will blend into the hull, but, as always...figuring it all out was a nice way to pass an evening. The position on planks were marked on the ship as the planking is curved but cut off the ship with LOTS of fine tuning. The black colouring was marker pen on the first planking simply to allow me to see the outline more clearly. Now to continue planking, and do the port side, progress is a little more pleasant now as every step is now visibly moving her forward.
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Ray got a reaction from Barbossa in HMS Diana 1794 ship's boats by Ray - FINISHED - 1/48 - SMALL
The stern seats were added and the winch and davit made, the davit will just be stored on board as it cannot be in place with the rudder mounted,the rudder has also be made, but I will alter the arm,the wash strakes have been added to the hull and the oar slots cut,the boat has been masked up and sprayed with quite a few coats of primer rubbed down after every two coats. Spray painting the boats will be a new venture as I have invested in a small compressor and air brush, and it will be a learning curve, but so far after just doing the primer, I am well pleased with the results, the main thing learnt so far is just how thin you need to get the paint (acrylic) to get a good result.
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Ray got a reaction from Barbossa in HMS Diana 1794 ship's boats by Ray - FINISHED - 1/48 - SMALL
With the ribs fitted the inside has now been fitted out with the floor and decking.
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Ray got a reaction from Mike Y in HMS Diana 1794 ship's boats by Ray - FINISHED - 1/48 - SMALL
The stern seats were added and the winch and davit made, the davit will just be stored on board as it cannot be in place with the rudder mounted,the rudder has also be made, but I will alter the arm,the wash strakes have been added to the hull and the oar slots cut,the boat has been masked up and sprayed with quite a few coats of primer rubbed down after every two coats. Spray painting the boats will be a new venture as I have invested in a small compressor and air brush, and it will be a learning curve, but so far after just doing the primer, I am well pleased with the results, the main thing learnt so far is just how thin you need to get the paint (acrylic) to get a good result.
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Ray got a reaction from Palladio in HMS Diana 1794 ship's boats by Ray - FINISHED - 1/48 - SMALL
The stern seats were added and the winch and davit made, the davit will just be stored on board as it cannot be in place with the rudder mounted,the rudder has also be made, but I will alter the arm,the wash strakes have been added to the hull and the oar slots cut,the boat has been masked up and sprayed with quite a few coats of primer rubbed down after every two coats. Spray painting the boats will be a new venture as I have invested in a small compressor and air brush, and it will be a learning curve, but so far after just doing the primer, I am well pleased with the results, the main thing learnt so far is just how thin you need to get the paint (acrylic) to get a good result.
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Ray got a reaction from mtaylor in HMS Diana 1794 ship's boats by Ray - FINISHED - 1/48 - SMALL
The stern seats were added and the winch and davit made, the davit will just be stored on board as it cannot be in place with the rudder mounted,the rudder has also be made, but I will alter the arm,the wash strakes have been added to the hull and the oar slots cut,the boat has been masked up and sprayed with quite a few coats of primer rubbed down after every two coats. Spray painting the boats will be a new venture as I have invested in a small compressor and air brush, and it will be a learning curve, but so far after just doing the primer, I am well pleased with the results, the main thing learnt so far is just how thin you need to get the paint (acrylic) to get a good result.
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Ray reacted to Beef Wellington in HMS Diana 1794 ship's boats by Ray - FINISHED - 1/48 - SMALL
Clearly I'm late to the party, hadn't noticed you'd started. Following closely Ray as I find these small boats a little intimidating. Looking great.
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Ray got a reaction from Mike Y in HMS Diana 1794 ship's boats by Ray - FINISHED - 1/48 - SMALL
With the ribs fitted the inside has now been fitted out with the floor and decking.
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Ray got a reaction from avsjerome2003 in HMS Diana 1794 ship's boats by Ray - FINISHED - 1/48 - SMALL
The hull was double planked firstly with .5x3mm planking, sanded down, and the second planking was 1x4mm, all planking was fixed with std super glue, after the second planking, had been sanded down this gave a hull thickness of around 1mm. The inner part of the frames were broken out exposing the ply ribs, I thought they looked to rough so I decided to use the contingency plan and removed the ribs firstly I added the false keel again from evergreen styrene, I then sanded the inside of the hull,and then added the dummy ribs with styrene which look even and sharp.
Planking
Finished hull
frame removal
Keel added
Inside hull ribs removed and sanded first dummy rib in
New set of ribs