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Cristiano replied to catopower's topic in Masting, rigging and sails
The matter related to the latin sails as used in big vessels is more complex. The latin sails ships like xebec, polacre, pinco, galleys and so on were widely used in all the Mediterranean sea, by Spain, France, Italy and all the north African Countries, which composed later the Ottoman Empire. Since the latin sails were the main source of propulsion, they needed to be big and to be "arranged" in any position possible, in order to use at their best the wind. So they were placed not inside the shrouds. Even the mizzen mast latin sail was not placed inside the shrouds, since i- 14 replies
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Cristiano replied to catopower's topic in Masting, rigging and sails
When I built a Polacre, I made some research on the subject, since was a scratch build model. Below there is a scheme that explain better than many words how where managed the latin sails. Hope it clarified all of your doubts! 😀- 14 replies
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This is definetly a very interesting series. I have read the book and seen the series. As everyone can know googling on the web, the remains of the crew and lifeboats and various accessories has been found during the decades in various zones. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franklin's_lost_expedition So has been possible to hypotize the various events that led to the total disappearance of the crew. The book'author has used the informations, the recovered objects and remains, the sites, as key points for his novel. So when someone dies in a specific pl- 8 replies
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I agree with the hypotesys of a movable gangway. There various images where the loading of goods is made using this lowered gangway. In that way it is possible to let the bow of the ship reach a shore not provided with a dock, and load the goods. The sailing technology was not so evolved during the roman period, so the sails were simple squared sails, without improvements. The Roman ships were unable to sail upwind.
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WW2 ship drawings anyone know what this is?
Cristiano replied to Dean77's topic in Nautical/Naval History
No, that cannot be. This is a steam powered ship, the one of the drawing was defined as "motonave", which is an Italian term to define a ship powered with internal combustion engines. Which for these ships means diesel engines. In addition, this is a cargo ship, and the one of the drawing is a passenger ship. I am rather convinced that the drawing belong to the class of ships identified with the names "Città di..." (City of...). In the drawing the total lenght is expressed as "lunghezza entro i dritti 87,60 m", which means "lenght between perpendicular 87,60 m". I -
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The below one is the link to one ship that resemble the plans one. The size is similar and shape similar, too. It is just an example, a more carefully research must be done. Since the drawing is of autumn 1928, it is possible that entered in service in 1929. That ship entered in service in 1929, as a passenger ship. Later during world war 2 was converted in Hospital ship and so on. This was sunked and not captured, so the drawings hardly can belong to it, but eventually can belong to the same class...(the size and shape match your drawings) https://it -
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Interesting... For what I understand, it is possible the following: -The drawings plans are belonging to one generic class of passenger ship projected for the passengers transport between the "minor lines", which means probably routes where less passengers are imbarked (ships for less crowded routes). In these years can means as an example the regular communications between Italy and its own Islands, and Tripoli (Libya) or Italy and Tunisia. These were rather common ships. -The S.E.L.F was a company of Genova (Italian town) and was probably a subsupplier in the ship co -
Hello Dick, Inside the book there are various drawings that shows your type of ship either with a single mast and three masts. I think that the number of decks present in your model and the relative scale, forces the presence of three masts. It's just my opinion. The author regarding some of the drawings warns the reader that some of the ships can be hystorically partially wrong, due to some "artistic modification" or lack of ship engineering knowledge. If you want to make a deep search inside charts and drawings, this can be of help: http://www.internetculturale.it/opencms/opencms/it
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Great that it can be of use. If you need some translation, let me know and I can provide you fast answers. the descriptions are mainly the locations where the image is taken, such as the name of churches or cathedrals and the name of the artist that produced the painting or sculpture, and a brief decription of the overall painting/sculpture. if you want to search in the web eventually the original image, keep in mind that some of the names of the foreign artists has been "Italianized" as usual in the last centuries. So Albrecht Durer became Alberto Durero in the book. It can happen in
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Hello Dick, You are doing a great work on this carrack. I wonder if you already have checked a book called "navi venete" written by Cesare Augusto Levi in 1892. He made the type of research that you are doing more or less now. He searched for venetian ships images in every corner of Venice, including anonymous paintings, sculptures, ex-voto, frescos. The result of his work is inside that book. It is a book only of drawings, with specificated the source of the image. It is more precious than that it seems, for your research. Below a link to the book... http://www.libreriaeditricefilip
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Well, again I arrived too late.. It is difficult to find colour photos made by the passengers to help you, but the original brochures were filled of colour photos. Below there is a link of a website where almost all the pages of the commercial brochure of the Andrea Doria are showed. The photos are almost all colour ones. Some (interesting?) colour photos of the pool too... http://lmcshipsandthesea.blogspot.it/2013/10/andrea-doria-and-cristoforo-colombo.html In anycase, you are doing a very marvellous work!
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What a fool I was! I always thought that those colours belonged to a flag! :D But Yes, you're right...caprese salad is obviously the most logical answer! :D
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Hello Dan, You have done a very beautiful work! Regarding the Michelangelo, as for others Italian ships, there are plans available at the "Navimodellisti Bolognesi" Society, which were the same that let available the original plans of the Andrea Doria. Below the link: http://www.anb-online.it/navi-mercantili-e-imbarcazioni-da-diporto/transatlantici-e-navi-da-crociera/0139-michelangelo-l-f-t-27585-m-1100-e-1200/?lang=en Have you already explored this website? It contains a lot of precious photos of the Michelangelo. Below the link: http://www.michelangelo-raffaello.com/photo_ga
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Hello Rod, congratulation for your marvellous work! If you want to add a final touch, you can eventually add the radio wires, as in the photo attached. The Anteo was probably inspired to a series of tugs built in 1935-1937 that belong to the "Porto" (harbour) series. below the drawing of the Porto Ercole and the photo of the Porto Sdobba and Porto Torres. in all can be seen the radio wires arrangement. but probably I arrived a bit late...
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