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Chuck Seiler
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Chuck Seiler got a reaction from dgbot in GUNBOAT PHILADELPHIA by Steve.Y - FINISHED - Model Shipways
Aw maaaaaaaan. The model is at work. I'm going to have to look at the map...er, ah plans. I'll be right back.
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Chuck Seiler got a reaction from dgbot in WASHINGTON GALLEY by yamsterman - 1/48 scale - POF
Don,
I too am working on the WASHINGTON. I plan to unveil my build log on 11 October. That date should have some significance to all you Washington and Philadelphia builders.
I made the keel/hogging and rising wood from the same piece. Using my Byrnes Saw I cut a slot that I will eventually work into the rabbet. To determine where to make the cuts, I cut a section of the keel/rising wood from the plans and glued it to the piece using rubber cement. Normal glue causes it to stretch too much. Prior to this, I marked the cut points on to the wood using the section of the plan that is glued to the build board. This ensures that the paper glued to the keel lines up with the frame location on the build board. It took some doing, but I was able to do it.
All this requires that you have enough copies of the plan. NEVER CUT UP YOUR ORIGINAL. I take my plans to a reprographics center which gives precise duplication. Places like Kinkos can be off a percentage or two. On some of my models that doesn't matter. Here it does. The downside is that they will not reproduce any copyrighted material unless you have permission. The upside is that NRG provides a permission letter.
Once I have the plan affixed to the keel, I use my Byrnes Saw as a mill, much as Mick did.
Chuck
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Chuck Seiler got a reaction from Canute in WASHINGTON GALLEY by yamsterman - 1/48 scale - POF
Don,
I too am working on the WASHINGTON. I plan to unveil my build log on 11 October. That date should have some significance to all you Washington and Philadelphia builders.
I made the keel/hogging and rising wood from the same piece. Using my Byrnes Saw I cut a slot that I will eventually work into the rabbet. To determine where to make the cuts, I cut a section of the keel/rising wood from the plans and glued it to the piece using rubber cement. Normal glue causes it to stretch too much. Prior to this, I marked the cut points on to the wood using the section of the plan that is glued to the build board. This ensures that the paper glued to the keel lines up with the frame location on the build board. It took some doing, but I was able to do it.
All this requires that you have enough copies of the plan. NEVER CUT UP YOUR ORIGINAL. I take my plans to a reprographics center which gives precise duplication. Places like Kinkos can be off a percentage or two. On some of my models that doesn't matter. Here it does. The downside is that they will not reproduce any copyrighted material unless you have permission. The upside is that NRG provides a permission letter.
Once I have the plan affixed to the keel, I use my Byrnes Saw as a mill, much as Mick did.
Chuck
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Chuck Seiler got a reaction from mtaylor in WASHINGTON GALLEY by yamsterman - 1/48 scale - POF
Don,
I too am working on the WASHINGTON. I plan to unveil my build log on 11 October. That date should have some significance to all you Washington and Philadelphia builders.
I made the keel/hogging and rising wood from the same piece. Using my Byrnes Saw I cut a slot that I will eventually work into the rabbet. To determine where to make the cuts, I cut a section of the keel/rising wood from the plans and glued it to the piece using rubber cement. Normal glue causes it to stretch too much. Prior to this, I marked the cut points on to the wood using the section of the plan that is glued to the build board. This ensures that the paper glued to the keel lines up with the frame location on the build board. It took some doing, but I was able to do it.
All this requires that you have enough copies of the plan. NEVER CUT UP YOUR ORIGINAL. I take my plans to a reprographics center which gives precise duplication. Places like Kinkos can be off a percentage or two. On some of my models that doesn't matter. Here it does. The downside is that they will not reproduce any copyrighted material unless you have permission. The upside is that NRG provides a permission letter.
Once I have the plan affixed to the keel, I use my Byrnes Saw as a mill, much as Mick did.
Chuck
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Chuck Seiler got a reaction from Omega1234 in WASHINGTON GALLEY by yamsterman - 1/48 scale - POF
Don,
I too am working on the WASHINGTON. I plan to unveil my build log on 11 October. That date should have some significance to all you Washington and Philadelphia builders.
I made the keel/hogging and rising wood from the same piece. Using my Byrnes Saw I cut a slot that I will eventually work into the rabbet. To determine where to make the cuts, I cut a section of the keel/rising wood from the plans and glued it to the piece using rubber cement. Normal glue causes it to stretch too much. Prior to this, I marked the cut points on to the wood using the section of the plan that is glued to the build board. This ensures that the paper glued to the keel lines up with the frame location on the build board. It took some doing, but I was able to do it.
All this requires that you have enough copies of the plan. NEVER CUT UP YOUR ORIGINAL. I take my plans to a reprographics center which gives precise duplication. Places like Kinkos can be off a percentage or two. On some of my models that doesn't matter. Here it does. The downside is that they will not reproduce any copyrighted material unless you have permission. The upside is that NRG provides a permission letter.
Once I have the plan affixed to the keel, I use my Byrnes Saw as a mill, much as Mick did.
Chuck
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Chuck Seiler reacted to yamsterman in WASHINGTON GALLEY by yamsterman - 1/48 scale - POF
hi don
false keel cut from 3/16 x 1/16 stock
hog cut from 3/32 x 3/16 stock as a seperate piece on top of the keel.......makes it easier to cut the rebate in the keel this way.
ask as many questions as you like,hopefully i will be able to provide an answer but if i cant we can throw it out to the forum.......bound to find out the answer!!!!
cheers....mick
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Chuck Seiler got a reaction from avsjerome2003 in Heroine 1838 by ggrieco - FINISHED - Scale 1:24 - Western River Steamboat as she appeared before hitting a snag in the Red River
GG,
Welcome aboard. I have followed a couple of Dr. Crisman's projects and actually had an opportunity to hear him speak at an SMA Conference many years ago. Maybe we can get him to speak at an upcoming NRG Conference. I am also enamored with riverboats...mostly the off-Mississippi versions of the Mississippi boats (like the Missouri boats).
Currently there is an ongoing build of Steamboat Bertrand by Cathead that may be helpful to you.
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Chuck Seiler got a reaction from Omega1234 in Heroine 1838 by ggrieco - FINISHED - Scale 1:24 - Western River Steamboat as she appeared before hitting a snag in the Red River
GG,
Welcome aboard. I have followed a couple of Dr. Crisman's projects and actually had an opportunity to hear him speak at an SMA Conference many years ago. Maybe we can get him to speak at an upcoming NRG Conference. I am also enamored with riverboats...mostly the off-Mississippi versions of the Mississippi boats (like the Missouri boats).
Currently there is an ongoing build of Steamboat Bertrand by Cathead that may be helpful to you.
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Chuck Seiler reacted to ggrieco in Heroine 1838 by ggrieco - FINISHED - Scale 1:24 - Western River Steamboat as she appeared before hitting a snag in the Red River
Hello Everyone,
Several years after the excavation, we think we have enough information to attempt the reconstruction model of this early steamboat. The excavation provided some wonderful information about the hull up to and including the deck and Dr. Kevin Crisman's research has provided the details of the appearance and arrangement of the upper works.
I've already started on two 1:24 waterline models for the Oklahoma Historical Society. The finished models will be complete reconstructions with cutaways highlighting the machinery and other artifacts recovered during the excavation on the hull.
The next couple of months I will be focusing on the engine and boilers. The research is ongoing and I'd love input from anyone interested in steamboats and steam engines.
Although we have a good idea about the overall appearance and layout of the vessel, there is very little info out there about construction details, joinery etc. I would like to make these detailed and accurate as possible so any ideas that anyone has would be greatly appreciated.
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Chuck Seiler reacted to BRiddoch in Higaki Kaisen by BRiddoch - FINISHED - Woody Joe - 1/72 scale - SMALL
Thanks Clare. I will play around with a few different glues. I used CA Zap a Gap on the few copper pieces I installed. Currently planning on using the provided sail.
Bob R.
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Chuck Seiler reacted to CharlieZardoz in Sultana by CharlieZardoz - Model Shipways - 1:64
The captain broke the anchor. Wasn't me I swear!
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Chuck Seiler reacted to CharlieZardoz in Sultana by CharlieZardoz - Model Shipways - 1:64
Here she is back at port at the end of the "3 hour tour" around the Chester river.
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Chuck Seiler reacted to CharlieZardoz in Sultana by CharlieZardoz - Model Shipways - 1:64
So they put me on steering duty. The ship was quite easy to steer and just feeling how much power she had as she careened to the left and to the right gave me such a great understanding as to what these ships were all about, an amazing experience
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Chuck Seiler reacted to CharlieZardoz in Sultana by CharlieZardoz - Model Shipways - 1:64
And for my last update for the night I have pics from this weekend when I booked a cruise on the Sultana replica. Took tons of pics and a few measurements with my laser measurer. A lot of the pics are less glamorous and more informative but it was an amazing experience!
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Chuck Seiler got a reaction from mtaylor in Sultana by CharlieZardoz - Model Shipways - 1:64
Charlie,
Great work so far. When I started my SULTANA several years ago, I ran into similar issues. I determined that all the stuff you are doing was too much like work and opted to trash the solid hull and make it using the bread and butter method. Having learned a lot since then, I would do SOME things different, but not the overall plan.
SULTANA makes a beautiful model and in my mind is a great starter (except for some of the solid hull issues). I need to pull mine out of storage and finish it up.
Keep up the good work. I will look in from time to time.
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Chuck Seiler reacted to CharlieZardoz in Sultana by CharlieZardoz - Model Shipways - 1:64
Thank you so much for the kind words. I considered whether solid hull would be overall too frustrating to work with but at the advice of my friends at the Brooklyn model club I decided it was good to stick with it as my first wood model. Frames it seems often tend to need filling in especially at the bow and stern anyways and the benefit of the solid hull is that mistakes can easily be fixed with wood putty as I've removed and re-added a few parts already. The hull shaping can be seen without having to use my imagination and the whole thing will be planked in thin veneer boxwood strips so in the end should look no different. After I master this one looking forward to a frame on bulkhead and see what that teaches me.
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Chuck Seiler got a reaction from CharlieZardoz in Sultana by CharlieZardoz - Model Shipways - 1:64
Charlie,
Great work so far. When I started my SULTANA several years ago, I ran into similar issues. I determined that all the stuff you are doing was too much like work and opted to trash the solid hull and make it using the bread and butter method. Having learned a lot since then, I would do SOME things different, but not the overall plan.
SULTANA makes a beautiful model and in my mind is a great starter (except for some of the solid hull issues). I need to pull mine out of storage and finish it up.
Keep up the good work. I will look in from time to time.
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Chuck Seiler reacted to CharlieZardoz in Sultana by CharlieZardoz - Model Shipways - 1:64
As for the keel pretty much using the piece provided with the model one can determine how much needs to be removed as well. This doesn't have to be 100% in stone a lot of this is really a matter of feeling your way to what looks right. One can measure and measure but in the end use your eyes and see if things match up as they should.
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Chuck Seiler reacted to CharlieZardoz in Sultana by CharlieZardoz - Model Shipways - 1:64
Regarding the stern I used wood putty to shape it up to the size and angle it needed to be. This required a lot of back and forth and also a bit of instinct as you want enough thickness so that the windows are where they should be. I cut out a piece from the templates I made above and used it as an acting transom to determine where the lines should be. Using a few photos of the stern from the replica to act as a guide.
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Chuck Seiler reacted to Senior ole salt in Sloop Providence 1776 by Senior ole salt - 1:48 scale
Still moving along with the model The scuppers P&S have been cut out and along with the gunports opening ,the whole structure seems strong for handling the hull. I decided a little paint was needed to cover mistakes ( I admit too so far.) I remove parts like the deck hatches bow sprit etc that are not glued down so they won't get in the way.
I used rubber bands and scrap wood cut offs to glue and clamp down both rail caps on the poop deck. (one side at a time) This worked out fine but i can use the gun ports to do the same for the main deck rail cap. Yet to do is applying some sort of glass to the stern windows.
Here's two views of the model so far. I use a lot of images on Providence's facebook blog to gain information concerning the boat that the washed out plans don't show..
https://www.facebook.com/Tall-Ship-Providence-118669581542537/timeline/
S.O.S.
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Chuck Seiler reacted to jbshan in Mast and Spar replacements
I have made spar stock by gluing 4 square sticks together. If you watch carefully for any warp in your square stock, you can position them so the warps cancel each other out. From there, just make the square into a circle. Or octagon, whatever is required.
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Chuck Seiler got a reaction from Canute in Mast and Spar replacements
Crown has masting sets? Wow....ya learn something new every day.
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Chuck Seiler got a reaction from Canute in GUNBOAT PHILADELPHIA by Steve.Y - FINISHED - Model Shipways
Steve,
They come down to the top tree trestles ( I think that's what they are called. Since army guys built it, they are call "those thingies that stick out at the top of the fat pole".) I notched the ends and let them run free. From there, they are secured to the main shrouds at the futtock stave. On the starboard side, it is the top rung. On the port side it would be directly across....the only rung (watch out for that next step!!!)
Gotta go. Dr. Who is on!
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Chuck Seiler got a reaction from Canute in GUNBOAT PHILADELPHIA by Steve.Y - FINISHED - Model Shipways
Aw maaaaaaaan. The model is at work. I'm going to have to look at the map...er, ah plans. I'll be right back.
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Chuck Seiler got a reaction from Canute in GUNBOAT PHILADELPHIA by Steve.Y - FINISHED - Model Shipways
Steve,
I'm not sure I understand the question. From your picture in post 235 it looks like your shrouds are already attached.
The model is looking great!!! Next step....the awning assembly. Remember, it's not symmetric. It looks kind of cock-eyed...but that's what happens when army guys build boats...er, ahh...I mean....
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