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Ian B got a reaction from Canute in Bismarck by Ian B - Amati - 1/200
Bow weathered The grey is the primer so not touched the top half yet, need to get the correct colour paint.
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Ian B got a reaction from mtaylor in Bismarck by Ian B - Amati - 1/200
Good point Roger..the super structure won't have any I just want to break up the mono slabs of colour on the hull.
Keep those comments and observations coming .👍👍👍
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Ian B got a reaction from mtaylor in Bismarck by Ian B - Amati - 1/200
Hi Joe, it is just a light touch..one it's new to me and two it was just to add a slight contrast to slabs of colour..I'm only doing the hull,the super structure won't have it apart from I think some panel lines.
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Ian B reacted to hof00 in Bismarck greys?
Hi Ian,
I used Vallejo Light Grey 71.050 and Sea Grey71.049 (I don't know if they are 100% historically correct)
Baltic Stripes are Black and White.
One person who could most definitively answer is @Joe100
I guess you could have a test "Off-Ship" with a selection first.
"Scale Effect" probably needs to be factored in?
Are you going the "Full Monty" Baltic Stripes?
Cheers....HOF.
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Ian B reacted to Joe100 in Bismarck greys?
By the way, this is the experimental scheme from the fall of 1940. Only half of her heavy AA weapons have been fit, since the three-axis stabilized mounts weren’t ready yet, no rangefinders, etc. not her best look in my opinion.
You can always tell Bismarck from Tirpitz by their funnel caps. Bismarck used an aluminized funnel cap for heat dissipation, and Tirpitz used a black funnel cap with heat resistant paint.
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Ian B reacted to Joe100 in Bismarck greys?
The boot topping was indeed grey, a very dark grey, but grey nonetheless. Specifically, RAL 7016 Schiffsbodenfarb Ill.
In some of the higher-resolution photos you can see the demarcation of the boot topping like and the black Baltic stripes.
Boot topping paint was a harder-wearing paint than the rest of the ship’s hull, and in most cases even thicker than the hull antifouling paint since it had to take the scouring action of the waves. The KM paints, especially in the early part of the war, were very much standardized, so there wouldn’t be mich of a variation. The Germans were using grey for boot topping stripes as far back as 1910 when the Tropical schemes were dropped in favor of Scheme 9. Bismarck was painted in 3 distinct camouflage schemes prior to Rhine Exercise. The first was overall Scheme 9, then in October 1940 an experimental scheme was applied for a few weeks. Only a few photos of this scheme exist, it’s never modeled. After this she was painted back to Scheme 9, and then into the Baltic scheme. The Baltic scheme remained mostly the same but we know the turret roof colors were changed almost constantly. This was done for testing purposes and in some photos you can even see the few workers busily repainting them. Sometime after her final fit in either March or April 1941, she was again painted back to Scheme 9 before the Baltic stripes were reapplied for Rhine Exercise. This was probably for experimental purposes.
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Ian B reacted to Joe100 in Bismarck by Ian B - Amati - 1/200
Looking good!
Don’t go too heavy on the underwater weathering. They ran her aground prior to Rhine Exercise and she was drydocked for inspection. The hull paint was touched up at this time too, so her bottom was mostly clean. She’d also been docked in December 1940 too, so no matter which period between December 1940 and her loss, she’s pretty clean underwater.
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Ian B reacted to Roger Pellett in Bismarck by Ian B - Amati - 1/200
I don’t understand weathering of major warships. Manning guns and handling ammunition in battle required large crews that would be idle when the ship was not at General Quarters. This offered a large workforce for the First Lt. to use for spit and polish. These ships often embarked a flag officer and his staff. He could demand that the vessel be maintained to a level commensurate with his lofty standards.
Small ships like convoy escorts were different story. These vessels took a beating from wind and water. In port time was minimal and smaller crews had less idle time for maintenance.
Roger
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Ian B got a reaction from mtaylor in Bismarck by Ian B - Amati - 1/200
Bow weathered The grey is the primer so not touched the top half yet, need to get the correct colour paint.
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Ian B got a reaction from mtaylor in Bismarck by Ian B - Amati - 1/200
forward array added --to be weathered... hull starting to be weathered
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Ian B got a reaction from hof00 in Bismarck by Ian B - Amati - 1/200
Bow weathered The grey is the primer so not touched the top half yet, need to get the correct colour paint.
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Ian B got a reaction from targa4403 in Bismarck by Ian B - Amati - 1/200
forward array added --to be weathered... hull starting to be weathered
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Ian B got a reaction from yvesvidal in Bismarck by Ian B - Amati - 1/200
Test fitting degaussing cable
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Ian B got a reaction from Canute in Bismarck by Ian B - Amati - 1/200
forward array added --to be weathered... hull starting to be weathered
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Ian B got a reaction from Canute in Bismarck by Ian B - Amati - 1/200
Cable Fitted ,first coat of red
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Ian B got a reaction from hof00 in Bismarck by Ian B - Amati - 1/200
forward array added --to be weathered... hull starting to be weathered
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Ian B got a reaction from hof00 in Bismarck by Ian B - Amati - 1/200
Cable Fitted ,first coat of red
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Ian B got a reaction from mtaylor in Bismarck by Ian B - Amati - 1/200
Test fitting degaussing cable
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Ian B reacted to wernerweiss in Bismarck by Ian B - Amati - 1/200
Hello Ian, you' re on the right way, the plan is quite simple....."just" fill and sand and fill and sand and....until the hull looks like made of plastic without the slightest indication of planks....
My way was as follows: when I was content with filling and sanding, I gave the hull a coat of parquet lacquer. When it was dry, I polished the hull with a polishing disc on a drilling machine
Regards Werner
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Ian B got a reaction from NavyShooter in Bismarck by Ian B - Amati - 1/200
so grey primer rubbed down, then I masked off any PE and where any PE will go then sprayed the hull with a high build filler primer-- and yes-- rubbed it down again--- now to give it a thick coat of varnish --then a fine rub down which 'should ' just leave a few spots and areas to tidy up---well that's the plan, and we all know what happens to a plan 😜
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Ian B reacted to Steve20 in HMS Victory Renovation - Outer Planking Removed
Yes, all Victory visitors can view the renovations through the platform built at three different levels and the walkway now goes down to the bottom of the dry dock. I live quite close to the Victory (it’s just a ferry ride across the water) and since the renovations started opening the ship up, I go across every couple of months to see what’s been uncovered. I’ve got a few more pics of the renovations but each of the deck levels exposed are very much a repeat of the one shown above. I do have pics in high resolution if anybody wants a close-up of a particular part.
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Ian B got a reaction from hof00 in Bismarck greys?
Lots to think on..thank you all for taking time to reply. I will do the boot line dark grey...