Siggi52
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Ok, the trent goes to nano technic! May be the next ship. Then I would't have a problem with space, only to find them Siggi -
Hello Sam, they did't have lights for starboard and port side in those day's. LANTHORN, a well-known machine, of which there are many used in a ship, particularly for the purpose of directing the course of other ships in a fleet or convoy: such are the poop and top-lanthorns, &c. TOP-LANTHORN, (fanal de hune, Fr.) a large lanthorn placed in the after part of the top, in any ship where an admiral or commodore is personally aboard. (William Falconer's Dictionary) So most ships had only the poop lanterns at the stern. I hope I could help you with this. Even in the 19th century sailing ships had only two lanterns, one in the fore mast and the poop lantern. Only steamers had the red and green lanterns to make them different. Sailing ships then had the right of way. The lanterns are ≈ 3 mm wide and 6 mm high. At my wish list for next christmas is a microscope Regards, Siggi
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Hello, I'm not very busy at the shipyard, but more in the garden. But I told the workers to build some lanterns for the wardroom and the cabin of the captain. They had there wooden lanterns with candles. Unfortunately they forget to build in doors, so we can't light the candles For those who are interested, the wire has a diameter of 0,5 mm Regards, Siggi
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Hello, yes, the glasses are acrylic-, or as we say plexi glas. Here some more pictures and also some originals from the British Museum. The decanter and tablet is made from copper. The thick fingers are mine Regards, Siggi
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Mark, I turned them just normal on my lathe. Smoothen them with needle files and after that polished them. I'm sorry, but I made no picture working them out. Regards, Siggi
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Sam, it's acrylic / plexiglas. They are 4 mm high and have a diameter of 2 mm. Siggi Plexiglas |ˈpleksiˌglas| (also plexiglas or plexiglass) noun trademark, chiefly N. Amer. a solid transparent plastic made of polymethyl methacrylate (the same material as perspex or Lucite).
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Hello, I was't very busy the last time, but finished the interior of the ward room. So the next thing to do is to install the deck beams. Today I turned some wine glasses from plexiglas and a decanter for the officers. In front of the ward room the match tubes for this side of the deck are waiting to be stored. This is the driest part, outside the ward room, of this deck, so that is the reason why they where stored here. Regards, Siggi
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The cannon looks great Mark, at least you got it. Regards, Siggi
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Thank you for the compliments. Sam, I do my very best I read about the trouble with your side galleries, I did mine three times! Regards, Siggi
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Sam, thank you for your efforts. I tried it yesterday, but it did't work so as in the picture. So I build a hybrid of my first version and that seen in the picture. You may see it here: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/8505-hms-dragon-build-by-siggi-scale-148-english-74-gunner-1760/page-10 Regards, Siggi
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Hello, just for trying the other method of lashing the cannon alongside, I went for an hour to the shipyard. The plan was to use this version: That looked in reality so: I could't get the cannon nearer to the wall, because the bolts are too close together. So I made some improvements, a mix of my first version and the new. I think that could work. Regards, Siggi
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Hello Sam, cog posted me a link to your posting #423 about gun lashings. From which source is that picture with the different lashings? Regards, Siggi
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Mark, I would't change with you. I'm glad to have only five cannons here. I found that the tackles are the most painful work and these polyester ropes not really cooperative. With the location I have no problems. According to this anonymous captain we have great freedom how to do this or that and the captain of this ship decided to do it this way. Did you read that book? It's really interesting. How fare are you with your cannons? I think you got the pewter too hot. Somewhere I read, that the surface of the pewter shod look light yellow before casting. Then you would't have this burned surface at your melting pot and don't forget the talcum. Regards, Siggi
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Hello, I installed the cannons. I don't know if this is the right way to do it, but I think it would work. Did anyone know if the cannons, there where are no port lid, where in or out? The muzzle of the right cannon I would later lash to the deck clamp and/or deck beam. Regards, Siggi
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Hello, thank you for your kind words. I think that 3 years of building and I'm not ready now, is a long time. I'm glad that I have not to build the whole ship, that means it would take 10 years to finish! May be I would't believe the ready ship Here is now spring and I'm not so often in the cellar building. After that long and rainy winter (we had here 3-4 days with snow) it's a fun to go outside in the sun. Even when that means working in the garden. Regards, Siggi
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Hello, today my ship has it's 3. anniversary. Three years ago we laid down the keel. That was a time I would't forget, sometimes it was stress, but mostly enjoyable. I learned a lot about these ships and still learning. The last weeks I read much in these old book from the 18th or 19th century. One book I will everyone advise, who want to know where they stow this or that. Only my question is't answered. „Observations and Instructions for the use of the Commissioned, the Junior, and other Officers of the Royal Navy“ Google books http://books.google.de/books/about/Observations_and_Instructions_for_the_Us.html?id=5WlGAAAAYAAJ&redir_esc=y There is the question answered where the capstan bars where stored: between the beams! But really new to me was, that in 1804 there was no rule from the admiralty for all ships. So every captain made his own rules how this or that was build, handled or done. If the ship has 2 or 3 watches and so on! Between reading I build the pillars for the guardrail of the stairways. A very frustrating job. It took me two days to build this pile of junk But at least I got enough pillars ready Regards, Siggi
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Zeh, that I do not know. May be for ventilation, but normally these things would then be in the port lid. Regards, Siggi
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Hello Zeh, for me it looks like the cabin of the 3. officer or lieutenant in the wardroom. What did you mean with the light in the bulwark, the thing above the cannon could be a mirror. Regards, Siggi
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Thank you Daniel, that are great news. It's as I think the only way to stow the cannons within the cabins and I had done it that way even without this information. But now it is more official. I read the last days a lot of these old books, but about this I could't find anything. Regards, Siggi
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Druxey, that picture should be a joke. It shows a cabin out of scale. That is the information from the NMM, not my interpretation.
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Thank you Alan, that is the known version of Lavery, but that did't work as you could see at the picture I posted. More pictures about this question you could see at my threat about the Dragon. Daniel, the question was, if you know more about it. Or did you write it just so Regards, Siggi
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Hello, Mark, yes that where canvas screens. After the establishment of cabins from 1757, printed in Laverys book Ship of the line II at page 177: ...the wardroom is parted off by a bulkhead across the ship,...and from hence to the stern a space enclosed on each side (for three of (or?) four berths) by canvas hanging loosely before it like a curtain, or laced above and below with a parting in the middle of each berth to go in and out, and to roll up in the daytime when not wanted. ... Here you must know that canvas in those times was linen and not cotton, but for us it would't be important. At an other place in the book ( page 140) he quotes: ... Within the walls, wich are of painted canvas, are the cabins of six officers; the center of the room is occupied by the mess table; ... he did't say from wich period this text is. Painted canvas? The next question But also in these berth you have to store a cannon, or not. Druxey, I did't understand that joke. A warship with a peace time arrangement just before the Napoleonic Wars! „Join the navy and cruise the Mediterranean Sea? If you see a french ship, you could shoot at them, have fun.“ Attached is a picture from the prospect. You are here the expert, as I learned. But then you should't use the words perhaps, may be, could be, vielleicht, could work, eventuell &c. not so often. Only to the paneling of the captains cabin you have a iron fast viewpoint and I'm not sure if you are right with that. Regards, Siggi
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Hello, it is done, the pantry is ready. The louvered windows where a fine puzzle with 1000 parts , but at least I got it. This morning I build the bulwark and tomorrow the doors will follow. At last two pictures with a cannon. One the normal way to store the cannon and one with the cannon alongside the wall. The question is not answered how the did it. At least there is no other way possible then to store the cannons here along the wall. But then is there the second question, is there anywhere a description how they did it, ore could I act there as I think it would work. I remember that I somewhere read, but I did't know where and could't find it again, that they store the cannons from the captains rooms somewhere outside his cabins. I do not think that they bring them into the hold as Hutchinson wrote. That I think, would be a greater action and in the case of making ready for a fight, was not acceptable. May be they brought all the cannons out of the ward room. I found a plan at the side of the NMM of a ward room where they had 4 ore 5 cabins behind the bulwark and that was't possible with the cannons still there. But I could't find that plan again. But I found this plan of the Ajax. Here the partitions of the cabins are left and right of the ports. But with cannons it would't work. If I place a cannon right behind the bulwark, then her muzzle (ore back) will go behind the port into the next cabin. Here no cannon could stay. And the first lieutenant would have problems in his cabin to reach the outside gallery. But it's some time left till I have to make a decision, may be some one knows more about this. Regards, Siggi
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Hello, the pantry is so far ready. Tomorrow I will see what I could do with the windows and make some small repairs and corrections. If you are wondering why the stanchions have so white feet, I made a whole new set of deck beams with 1,5 mm more bent. I made the template for them, when I made the beams for the orlop, but why they are wrong, I don't know. The underside of the template was ok! Regards, Siggi
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