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Thistle17 got a reaction from Bob Cleek in Mast Bands
I have gotten better at making bands in brass. You will note the band at the step in the mast is now installed sans the eye bolts. It took two trys to get this larger band to look correctly (at least to me). I wrapped three sides tightly and then wrapped the 4th side into an overlap. The overlap was just enough to fall beyond the centerline on the 4th side. I marked that point and removed it from the mast. I then took the cutters as before and snipped the bypass/overlap just a tad more than where it landed before it was removed. I then took a flat jewelers file and tapered the cut ends to simulate a blunt end scarf joint. I then soldered this joint. It was finished with a flat file to knock down the soldered joint a bit and then drilled for the eye bolts.
Now i realized something today. The brass is 1/64 inch thick or approximatey 0.015. That equates to about 3/4 inch thick bands at full scale. I rather doubt they were that thick. I bet stock of 1/128 inch would have been more correct.
Am I obsessing? Maybe.
Joe
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Thistle17 got a reaction from Bob Cleek in Mast Bands
Yes Ian I was in circuit design in the 60's and 70's. We did have a drafting group that actually did PC layout. Some how I ended up with some of their tape. I also recall in the 70's watching an Intel person layout "ruby masters" for integrated circuits. My we have come a long way haven't we!
Glenn I did much the same and it turned out well. I have spent so much time trying to be so faithful to the model that sometimes I wonder that i move the ball forward at all.
Bob I wondered about that as I chose to drill small holes for the eye bolts. I believe I have even seen that at Mystic. Thanks for reminding me. Don't judge me too harshly as I am going to stay the course at this point.
Joe
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Thistle17 got a reaction from mtaylor in Mast Bands
I have gotten better at making bands in brass. You will note the band at the step in the mast is now installed sans the eye bolts. It took two trys to get this larger band to look correctly (at least to me). I wrapped three sides tightly and then wrapped the 4th side into an overlap. The overlap was just enough to fall beyond the centerline on the 4th side. I marked that point and removed it from the mast. I then took the cutters as before and snipped the bypass/overlap just a tad more than where it landed before it was removed. I then took a flat jewelers file and tapered the cut ends to simulate a blunt end scarf joint. I then soldered this joint. It was finished with a flat file to knock down the soldered joint a bit and then drilled for the eye bolts.
Now i realized something today. The brass is 1/64 inch thick or approximatey 0.015. That equates to about 3/4 inch thick bands at full scale. I rather doubt they were that thick. I bet stock of 1/128 inch would have been more correct.
Am I obsessing? Maybe.
Joe
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Thistle17 got a reaction from thibaultron in Mast Bands
I have gotten better at making bands in brass. You will note the band at the step in the mast is now installed sans the eye bolts. It took two trys to get this larger band to look correctly (at least to me). I wrapped three sides tightly and then wrapped the 4th side into an overlap. The overlap was just enough to fall beyond the centerline on the 4th side. I marked that point and removed it from the mast. I then took the cutters as before and snipped the bypass/overlap just a tad more than where it landed before it was removed. I then took a flat jewelers file and tapered the cut ends to simulate a blunt end scarf joint. I then soldered this joint. It was finished with a flat file to knock down the soldered joint a bit and then drilled for the eye bolts.
Now i realized something today. The brass is 1/64 inch thick or approximatey 0.015. That equates to about 3/4 inch thick bands at full scale. I rather doubt they were that thick. I bet stock of 1/128 inch would have been more correct.
Am I obsessing? Maybe.
Joe
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Thistle17 got a reaction from thibaultron in Mast Bands
Yes Ian I was in circuit design in the 60's and 70's. We did have a drafting group that actually did PC layout. Some how I ended up with some of their tape. I also recall in the 70's watching an Intel person layout "ruby masters" for integrated circuits. My we have come a long way haven't we!
Glenn I did much the same and it turned out well. I have spent so much time trying to be so faithful to the model that sometimes I wonder that i move the ball forward at all.
Bob I wondered about that as I chose to drill small holes for the eye bolts. I believe I have even seen that at Mystic. Thanks for reminding me. Don't judge me too harshly as I am going to stay the course at this point.
Joe
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Thistle17 got a reaction from mtaylor in Mast Bands
Yes Ian I was in circuit design in the 60's and 70's. We did have a drafting group that actually did PC layout. Some how I ended up with some of their tape. I also recall in the 70's watching an Intel person layout "ruby masters" for integrated circuits. My we have come a long way haven't we!
Glenn I did much the same and it turned out well. I have spent so much time trying to be so faithful to the model that sometimes I wonder that i move the ball forward at all.
Bob I wondered about that as I chose to drill small holes for the eye bolts. I believe I have even seen that at Mystic. Thanks for reminding me. Don't judge me too harshly as I am going to stay the course at this point.
Joe
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Thistle17 got a reaction from Keith Black in Mast Bands
Yes Ian I was in circuit design in the 60's and 70's. We did have a drafting group that actually did PC layout. Some how I ended up with some of their tape. I also recall in the 70's watching an Intel person layout "ruby masters" for integrated circuits. My we have come a long way haven't we!
Glenn I did much the same and it turned out well. I have spent so much time trying to be so faithful to the model that sometimes I wonder that i move the ball forward at all.
Bob I wondered about that as I chose to drill small holes for the eye bolts. I believe I have even seen that at Mystic. Thanks for reminding me. Don't judge me too harshly as I am going to stay the course at this point.
Joe
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Thistle17 got a reaction from GRAVIOU Francis in Mast Bands
No Glenn I do not but I will share pictures with you if you would like. When I started this model I just wasn't that confident of my work. Over the past 2 years I have gotten better. Early on when i was planking her it took 3 tries on the starboard side and 2 on the port side to get a level of quality i could live with. With the fine work on this site I have learned well enough to feel my work is acceptable. Here is a picture of the mast bands installedl sans final alignment and the eye bolts. still need the inclusion of the fid top mast. In looking at chapter 12 this AM I thought i could get away with an eye bolt for the lower band but realize that is really going to need the extended form of termination.
Also my blackening agent did not live up to the need. I think part of the problem was i used acid core solder and likely it did not clean off the bands well. Good thing it will be painted.
BTW you folk took a beating along I35 yesterday. I lived in Denton in the 70s right along 35 and I remember the violent thunderstorms to this day. This must have been horrific.
Joe
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Thistle17 got a reaction from Keith Black in Mast Bands
No Glenn I do not but I will share pictures with you if you would like. When I started this model I just wasn't that confident of my work. Over the past 2 years I have gotten better. Early on when i was planking her it took 3 tries on the starboard side and 2 on the port side to get a level of quality i could live with. With the fine work on this site I have learned well enough to feel my work is acceptable. Here is a picture of the mast bands installedl sans final alignment and the eye bolts. still need the inclusion of the fid top mast. In looking at chapter 12 this AM I thought i could get away with an eye bolt for the lower band but realize that is really going to need the extended form of termination.
Also my blackening agent did not live up to the need. I think part of the problem was i used acid core solder and likely it did not clean off the bands well. Good thing it will be painted.
BTW you folk took a beating along I35 yesterday. I lived in Denton in the 70s right along 35 and I remember the violent thunderstorms to this day. This must have been horrific.
Joe
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Thistle17 got a reaction from FrankWouts in HMS Winchelsea 1764 by Rustyj - FINISHED - 1:48
Have some time to model I see. Your quality of work never skips a beat Rusty! That can be hard to do with limited time. I observe the mornings are best for me.
Joe
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Thistle17 got a reaction from mtaylor in Neptunia ?
What a treat to see the models. Thanks for the pointer.
Joe
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Thistle17 got a reaction from mtaylor in 28 foot American cutter by druxey - FINISHED - 1:48 scale
What is there about ship modeling that drives one to model to such a high degree of accuracy? You set the bar so very high for the rest of us and that is OK. It has become such a passion for me through you and others of your capability! Thank you.
Joe
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Thistle17 got a reaction from thibaultron in 28 foot American cutter by druxey - FINISHED - 1:48 scale
What is there about ship modeling that drives one to model to such a high degree of accuracy? You set the bar so very high for the rest of us and that is OK. It has become such a passion for me through you and others of your capability! Thank you.
Joe
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Thistle17 got a reaction from Keith Black in 28 foot American cutter by druxey - FINISHED - 1:48 scale
What is there about ship modeling that drives one to model to such a high degree of accuracy? You set the bar so very high for the rest of us and that is OK. It has become such a passion for me through you and others of your capability! Thank you.
Joe
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Thistle17 got a reaction from bruce d in 28 foot American cutter by druxey - FINISHED - 1:48 scale
What is there about ship modeling that drives one to model to such a high degree of accuracy? You set the bar so very high for the rest of us and that is OK. It has become such a passion for me through you and others of your capability! Thank you.
Joe
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Thistle17 got a reaction from glbarlow in Mast Bands
No Glenn I do not but I will share pictures with you if you would like. When I started this model I just wasn't that confident of my work. Over the past 2 years I have gotten better. Early on when i was planking her it took 3 tries on the starboard side and 2 on the port side to get a level of quality i could live with. With the fine work on this site I have learned well enough to feel my work is acceptable. Here is a picture of the mast bands installedl sans final alignment and the eye bolts. still need the inclusion of the fid top mast. In looking at chapter 12 this AM I thought i could get away with an eye bolt for the lower band but realize that is really going to need the extended form of termination.
Also my blackening agent did not live up to the need. I think part of the problem was i used acid core solder and likely it did not clean off the bands well. Good thing it will be painted.
BTW you folk took a beating along I35 yesterday. I lived in Denton in the 70s right along 35 and I remember the violent thunderstorms to this day. This must have been horrific.
Joe
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Thistle17 got a reaction from thibaultron in Mast Bands
No Glenn I do not but I will share pictures with you if you would like. When I started this model I just wasn't that confident of my work. Over the past 2 years I have gotten better. Early on when i was planking her it took 3 tries on the starboard side and 2 on the port side to get a level of quality i could live with. With the fine work on this site I have learned well enough to feel my work is acceptable. Here is a picture of the mast bands installedl sans final alignment and the eye bolts. still need the inclusion of the fid top mast. In looking at chapter 12 this AM I thought i could get away with an eye bolt for the lower band but realize that is really going to need the extended form of termination.
Also my blackening agent did not live up to the need. I think part of the problem was i used acid core solder and likely it did not clean off the bands well. Good thing it will be painted.
BTW you folk took a beating along I35 yesterday. I lived in Denton in the 70s right along 35 and I remember the violent thunderstorms to this day. This must have been horrific.
Joe
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Thistle17 got a reaction from glbarlow in HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 by glbarlow - FINISHED - 1:48
Hey Glen just tuned into your work site. beautiful work and you are way ahead of me!
Joe
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Thistle17 got a reaction from mtaylor in Mast Bands
No Glenn I do not but I will share pictures with you if you would like. When I started this model I just wasn't that confident of my work. Over the past 2 years I have gotten better. Early on when i was planking her it took 3 tries on the starboard side and 2 on the port side to get a level of quality i could live with. With the fine work on this site I have learned well enough to feel my work is acceptable. Here is a picture of the mast bands installedl sans final alignment and the eye bolts. still need the inclusion of the fid top mast. In looking at chapter 12 this AM I thought i could get away with an eye bolt for the lower band but realize that is really going to need the extended form of termination.
Also my blackening agent did not live up to the need. I think part of the problem was i used acid core solder and likely it did not clean off the bands well. Good thing it will be painted.
BTW you folk took a beating along I35 yesterday. I lived in Denton in the 70s right along 35 and I remember the violent thunderstorms to this day. This must have been horrific.
Joe
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Thistle17 got a reaction from Andrew J. in Lightning by Andrew J. - Scale 1:12 - centerboard sloop from Sparkman & Stevens plans
I picked up the picture from Pintrest and was trying my hand at humor. I wondered the same thing but it surely looks like a man overboard. This may have been a lucky camera shot as things were unfolding. To that point a good friend and I were on Long Lake in Harwich Mass. we had just put in (in his Coranodo) and as we cleared a land outcrop a gust of wind sent us flying and into the water. Sneakers, cooler and bodies all floating.every which way. It happened so fast there was no time to react. We got ourselves ashore and noticed an older gentleman and kids heading out just like us. I thought for sure he was going to buy it as well. Yet he went merrily sailing by Goes to show you.
Joe
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Thistle17 got a reaction from Roger Pellett in Lightning by Andrew J. - Scale 1:12 - centerboard sloop from Sparkman & Stevens plans
I picked up the picture from Pintrest and was trying my hand at humor. I wondered the same thing but it surely looks like a man overboard. This may have been a lucky camera shot as things were unfolding. To that point a good friend and I were on Long Lake in Harwich Mass. we had just put in (in his Coranodo) and as we cleared a land outcrop a gust of wind sent us flying and into the water. Sneakers, cooler and bodies all floating.every which way. It happened so fast there was no time to react. We got ourselves ashore and noticed an older gentleman and kids heading out just like us. I thought for sure he was going to buy it as well. Yet he went merrily sailing by Goes to show you.
Joe
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Thistle17 got a reaction from Andrew J. in Lightning by Andrew J. - Scale 1:12 - centerboard sloop from Sparkman & Stevens plans
Just discovered your work on this great model you are building. Brings back memories of an earlier time when Lightnings and Comets raced on Irondequit Bay in upstate NY. Don't see too many these days. Wonder why. Always admired the lines.
Joe
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Thistle17 got a reaction from Roger Pellett in Lightning by Andrew J. - Scale 1:12 - centerboard sloop from Sparkman & Stevens plans
Thistles were a bit more pricey as I recall and I think that held them back here. I remember as at the time I could not afford one. i just looked up any clubs in the area and all I see is around Albany, Saratoga area.
Joe
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Thistle17 got a reaction from mtaylor in Mast Bands
Model building is a series of problem solving steps isn't it?
Dziadeczek and Mark I appreciate the inputs on blackening since that is something new to me. I will try out a sample, solder and all, before I commit the ones planned for the model. and thanks for the warning about the blackening agent migration. and cleaning. Yet further considerations.
rraisely I did try automotive striping tape i had but it didn't stick well that is why I abandoned it. It was pretty old tape so likely the adhesive was dried out. .
Joe
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Thistle17 got a reaction from Roger Pellett in Lightning by Andrew J. - Scale 1:12 - centerboard sloop from Sparkman & Stevens plans
Just discovered your work on this great model you are building. Brings back memories of an earlier time when Lightnings and Comets raced on Irondequit Bay in upstate NY. Don't see too many these days. Wonder why. Always admired the lines.
Joe
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