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I got it today. I’ll take pics of it tomorrow. I’m gonna make a new shadow box for it, so it will be displayed correctly. I was prepared to spend what ever it took………I’m glad we were spared *war*……😂. It will go well with my other artifacts. Rob
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Vlad, Glory's Shrouds/Backstays and Stays were all probably steel wire rope...so I'd use very dark or black rope. Her deadeye lanyards as well as her ratlines were oiled or tared to protect them from the weather. White ratlines and lanyards was not a prototype practice, However, some later clippers and large iron ocean carriers painted their lower shrouds white...to protect the steel cable.
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Yes...Vlad..6 pumps within the hold. These pumps removed water and debris and expelled it out hull drain ports that were found along her second deck level. Look closely and you will see the exit ports on these images and the staining caused by the expelled fish fluids(Top picture), and water in the bottom picture. The only pump on deck was the large flywheel bilge pump. Rob
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Just to let my friends know, I bought this artifact and it’s description originally written for and sent to the son of one of the men involved in the burning of Glory of the Seas. It was a gift from Mike. He (Joe), since passed and his estate put it up for auction. I got it. What a thrill. I will place it in a new shadow box and put it in my collection. Rob
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Johnny. In its premium(Later) form, the howes design evolved into a self reefing topsail and other designs namely from Colling & Pinkney and Cunningham's self reefing topsails.. Cranes were for lower topsail yards that were mounted on the mast cap and they then had another *crane* iron bar supporting them from either a band on the topmast doubling or from a foot on the tops. Basically the upper and lower topsails were laced together and were both rolled onto the upper topsaIL yard as it was lowered down to were the lower topsail yard would have been placed. I recommend you aquire a copy of Underhill's book *Masting and Rigging the clipper and Ocean Carrier*. It will answer all your rigging questions for sure. Rob
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Kevin. It is prudent to more then vaguely familiarize yourself with CS structures. The Howes design lower topsail yard is no movable(It does not have a tie or chain lift....so its weight needs to be supported with a *crane*. My Glory of the Seas was built the same year as CS and it had a crane as well...though it was slightly different....it rested on an iron pedestal affixed to the topgallant mast doubling. This is the best pic I have. Rob
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Another fine addition Nils. Question: Do you use plaxi or acrylic for your cases...or are they glass? Rob
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Nicely done Nils. Smart little pilot schooner. Completed in your typical clean, concise manner. Very well done. Congrats on another fine addition to your collection. Rob
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No.....your reasons are your reasons. I fully understand. The grain in the original deck was out of scale because of the oak.....but it didn't look bad. I do follow your goal to demonstrate proper joinery...especially in your scale. I'm still waiting to see how you include the addition of a waterway in your new construction. The new deck is nearly at the level of the covering board. The new deck is going to look wonderful, I'm sure. Rob
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First of all...thanks to everyone who commented and congratulated me on Glory's completion. A most heart felt...thanks. Rich.....Talking to Mike, he suggested contacting the Bainbridge Island Historical Society...claiming Glory did indeed share some history with Kitsap County. I hope I enticed him to throw some of his own Authorship weight behind the venture and do some investigating himself. Most of these local nautical historical societies have, either previously corroborated with him, and or, provided him with information. His name among certain circles, I am sure, can at least, give us the traction needed to find a suitable and respectable museum partnership. Rob
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I threw an email out to Mike and he is considering getting involved himself...since his own collection could accent the entire exhibit....making his own efforts (Books) more visible to the public. If you are willing, I am... So please feel free to extend to her finished images of my model. Since you are the primary contact at this point. Again...thanks. Rob
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I'm sure it was my presentation......If they could grasp the idea that Glory has a rich connection to the PSW and Tacoma....besides, they recognize and have a display honoring the local and state Salmon canning business. I'm sure if another with more elegant and persuasive words could aid them in seeing the light that Glory and a quality display of her would indeed benefit their display and collection. Their museum is the first place I had seen a large collection of salmon can labels on display. Very impressive. Glory's labels were not found among them....probably because her salmon was primarily sold over seas to England and, though her outfit was home ported out of Tacoma, she operated out of Alaska. Still, the connection is there and to drive home the collection....she was the only floating canary. I hope Michael Mjelde can create a more persuasive argument. I'm still convinced they could be enticed. Rob
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Your stay sails are amazing. You used the same method I did on my Great Republic. But I used thread size stainless steel orthodontic wire. I did wonder how you were supporting the billowing stay sails. Super job Rob
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Thanks for the fine compliment Peter. I'm glad I could inspire. She has been my passion for over 17 years, and the friends and corroborators I have made over the years have enriched me fully. Rob
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Thanks Druxey.....I waited for you...but just couldn't hold back any longer. Thanks for the fine compliments...you've been with me the entire journey and even contributed...thank you for that. Rob
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The Museum in Tacoma has kindly declined my offer, sighting a desire for more hands on displays and their model display area is under renovation. Rob
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Thank you very much Scott....I appreciate that. I wish I had paid closer attention to some details....but all in all I am pleased with her. I am arranging an appointment for Michael Mjelde (The author of several books on the subject) to come and preview her. Rob
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My journey evolved. I was like Vlad in the beginning....I wanted to model McKay's last clipper exactly as he built her. No after thought additions by other folks. But as I was building her and as my search and library increased.....I quickly determined that there was far more information on Glory after her initial construction, then of her original state. And finding myself having to remove deck furniture as it was determined to be an addition, meant, I was going to be left with a deck, that once devoid of *additions*, was probably close her *true self*.....but, not with any photographic evidence. Only drawings that our friend Mike Mjelde had devised. I gave and still do, him many Kudos for piecing together what he interpreted as Glory's original state.....without any photographic evidence to corroborate or validate them. I slowly, shifted my opinion, that any representation of Glory other then one of her *Original* designed configuration, was some how NOT a true representation...fell by the wayside. Because (I concluded), a vessels identity always develops...it is never stagnant. And since Glory had an extremely vibrant and diverse identity...one could be safe when modeling her during any of her periods of evolution. So, Unlike Vlad, I chose what I considered, the more extreme representation. And to do so I required as much information as could be attained. Fortunate for us, and particularly, myself, I met the man who had the power to grant that requirement. And an amazing God directed chain of events, lead, *The Authors Daughter* to me and subsequently, Michael himself . And the rest, as you know, is history. My original version was a far cry from being a scale model of Glory....it was more of an experiment...to see if I could modify an existing plastic hull into something usable. It was....but not for any serious modeler who was confined by the requirements of true representation. I used my *artistic license* carelessly, freely and I made many compromises. In essence, I was building just another poor example of a great and beautiful vessel. Oh........at the time, I possessed the skill to do better, but not the will...because of the lack of good imagery and standards. I'm looking forward to Vlad completing his Glory, as she was originally conceived my McKay..... His representation is worthy, as mine never was. Rob
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The mental challenge I struggled with, this time around, was not to try to redo a McKay Original as I initially did,...because I realized there is far more *EVIDENCE* of her structures in her mid to seasoned years then there is of her beginnings. We do not possess any images of what her deck truly looked like at her fitting out....we simply eliminate structures and fittings that we know were added later...and hopefully, we end up somewhere close. Nearly all of the first hand accounts from crew members, are of those who served on her in her later years, up to her canary years. Nothing of her original condition. We can see external structures and those of her rigging. After encouraged realization and correction of certain features, Vlad has indeed set his representation apart as the most accurate model of Glory of the Seas during her launching and fitting out season. Great Job Vlad! Rob
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Yeah Pat…… if you can come by some sculptamould material, I’d try that. My process used dental lab material….not available to the average modeler. Plus you need an expensive light curing unit. Apart from that……the fabrication method and contouring would be the same. Let me know how it works out, if you will. Rob
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