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rwiederrich
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Thanks. I’m going to work on the jaw, ears and make some corrections next. once done I will guild or paint her and leaver her on her mounting. I’ll remove her just before adding her to the cut water. When I get there. Like I did with Glory of the Seas, I’ll begin making the railing stanchions now too. I like to get as much detail work out of the way while I wait for hull conclusions. Rob
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Good work everyone. We’ll I began making chips,…….we’ll small chips. I carved the Staghound figurehead. Here are some pics
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Oh no, not the railing itself...but the mizzen fife rail or pin rail. Did you draw a forward image with the fife pin rail in place showing where it inserts into the portico front...and possibly where you might include those pillars? Rob
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Your drawing did not include the fife rail from the front....and its insertion into the portico. I was wondering if that would interfere with the pillars? Rob
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Rich..it was I who noticed these on Chapelle's drawing. Unlike British clippers that had large deck winches before the fore and main masts...American clippers tended to use other means to lift heavy items. I'm gathering that these drawings of Champelle are something similar to the image I presented. Makes sense. Rob
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Riiight. While you're at it...can you tell me the length of the Stadhound.....much like Atheana? 7ft? or so? Rob
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Great image...coupled with Rich's drawing, I should be able to model a good likeness. Rob
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This is a good writeup. Nearly word for word from Duncan McLean. Rob
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Came across something interesting. Chapelle...draws some interesting features on the fife bits. I wondered if they could be part of a winch or something....then I came across this image, that shows exactly what the drawing is trying to exhibit. Winches built right onto the fife bits
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The proximity of the fife rail and the portico, already introduces possible rigging interference. But that is the nature of the beast. Also the insertion of the fife rail into the portico on its leading edges will eliminate any gothic pillars...unless the rail can interrupt the pillar midway? I'd like to see what you come up with. Rob
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Rich...I like this representation. I'm not sure 3 windows are needed on the forward side...since the middle window is fully blocked by the mizzen......still it lets in ample light. Love the curved door and woodwork. The roof height is right in line with the main poop rail foot, or top of the monkey rail. Making the main poop rail even with the portico rail. This representation is probably the best....given the Duncan description and keeping with McKay documented practices. Not to mention what seams logical. Rob
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Hense, the wrestling match we are currently engaged in. Rob
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Rick...this is a true statement.....however...some renderings are not far off...others are...well...pretty much a different ship all together. Rob
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McKay was impressing the idea of Speed with the Staghound. Yes a scruffy greyhound. Personally, I'm using your rendering as my model....I like its features and gait. Rob
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Looks good...you're after a slight impression....the slight indication of a nail imprint...nothing more in this scale. Laying them individually will take some time...that is why I invented an embossing method to emboss copper tape...it looks fantastic and works very fast. I'm all about FAST. Good luck. Rob
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From his own words, it appears there is structure to the portico...not a flush front with sliding door. Square, means to me just that. With a four ft. recess into the poop deck. I'll be interested in seeing your examples. Rob
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If you reduced the extension by a foot..but left the width of the portico similar to what Chappelle drew...that would still provide ample real-estate for perimeter stanchions. Enough room inside to enter, turn and descend. With nice windows on the front for ample lighting. Even if you only reduced it the 8" I mentioned it would still work...IMV. Duncan says *square*...but from his other Vague descriptions....it could simply imply it doesn't extend past the 4ft insertion into the poop deck and no further then the mizzen. As far as its width, it could be wider as Champelle notes. Some paintings even make the suggestion. Your thoughts? Rob
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Amazing documents. Rob
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I agree on the 30” keel.
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Trying to figure out what people meant to say and pen is an art far and above my modeling skills. I've stated it before,...... *Once you eliminate the impossible....whatever remains, no matter how improbable..must be the truth* Rob
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Good point Rick......like Philips for a star tipped screw driver....or Crecent, for an adjustable wrench. Rob
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I tend to agree. I will still look to where I read that simple description....but as you said...He doesn't say copper perse' in his writeup. Where did I read that? Mmmmmmm😕. Heck...anyway, I prefer my Metalic overcoat on the copper anyway....it looks like oxidized muntz. More brown then green. How much does a 39" keel fiddle with our drawing of her lines? Are you gonna throw that back at Vlad? Rob
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Believe me...I agree completely with you on both substance and position. I was fully aware of muntz metals adoption...and McKay's dedication to *High tech* of the time. I will have t go over with a fine tooth comb the info I have...cuz I read that she was clad in copper....even to my amazement. Thanks for keeping me honest..... Rob
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Who's to say McKay didn't have loads of copper in his warehouse...and he wanted to use it up before moving onto Muntz metal? Coming from you...that last statement is disturbing.🤪 When have you ever known me to diverge from the historical facts..... for an artistic option? I expect to either be corrected by you, or given your concurrence, but to simply give up and defer to, *It's your model, your choice*, Well.....I find that out of character. Not to mention the expression that must have been on your face while you were typing that.🤣 But as I posted earlier...Duncan McLean stated she was coppered below. I think he would have made the correct distinction. Unless I'm totally off base here. Rob
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It’s the Constitution. Duncan McLean is the one who said she was clad in copper. Rob
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