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rwiederrich
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The proximity of the fife rail and the portico, already introduces possible rigging interference. But that is the nature of the beast. Also the insertion of the fife rail into the portico on its leading edges will eliminate any gothic pillars...unless the rail can interrupt the pillar midway? I'd like to see what you come up with. Rob
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Rich...I like this representation. I'm not sure 3 windows are needed on the forward side...since the middle window is fully blocked by the mizzen......still it lets in ample light. Love the curved door and woodwork. The roof height is right in line with the main poop rail foot, or top of the monkey rail. Making the main poop rail even with the portico rail. This representation is probably the best....given the Duncan description and keeping with McKay documented practices. Not to mention what seams logical. Rob
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Hense, the wrestling match we are currently engaged in. Rob
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Rick...this is a true statement.....however...some renderings are not far off...others are...well...pretty much a different ship all together. Rob
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McKay was impressing the idea of Speed with the Staghound. Yes a scruffy greyhound. Personally, I'm using your rendering as my model....I like its features and gait. Rob
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Looks good...you're after a slight impression....the slight indication of a nail imprint...nothing more in this scale. Laying them individually will take some time...that is why I invented an embossing method to emboss copper tape...it looks fantastic and works very fast. I'm all about FAST. Good luck. Rob
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From his own words, it appears there is structure to the portico...not a flush front with sliding door. Square, means to me just that. With a four ft. recess into the poop deck. I'll be interested in seeing your examples. Rob
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If you reduced the extension by a foot..but left the width of the portico similar to what Chappelle drew...that would still provide ample real-estate for perimeter stanchions. Enough room inside to enter, turn and descend. With nice windows on the front for ample lighting. Even if you only reduced it the 8" I mentioned it would still work...IMV. Duncan says *square*...but from his other Vague descriptions....it could simply imply it doesn't extend past the 4ft insertion into the poop deck and no further then the mizzen. As far as its width, it could be wider as Champelle notes. Some paintings even make the suggestion. Your thoughts? Rob
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Amazing documents. Rob
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I agree on the 30” keel.
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Trying to figure out what people meant to say and pen is an art far and above my modeling skills. I've stated it before,...... *Once you eliminate the impossible....whatever remains, no matter how improbable..must be the truth* Rob
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Good point Rick......like Philips for a star tipped screw driver....or Crecent, for an adjustable wrench. Rob
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I tend to agree. I will still look to where I read that simple description....but as you said...He doesn't say copper perse' in his writeup. Where did I read that? Mmmmmmm😕. Heck...anyway, I prefer my Metalic overcoat on the copper anyway....it looks like oxidized muntz. More brown then green. How much does a 39" keel fiddle with our drawing of her lines? Are you gonna throw that back at Vlad? Rob
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Believe me...I agree completely with you on both substance and position. I was fully aware of muntz metals adoption...and McKay's dedication to *High tech* of the time. I will have t go over with a fine tooth comb the info I have...cuz I read that she was clad in copper....even to my amazement. Thanks for keeping me honest..... Rob
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Who's to say McKay didn't have loads of copper in his warehouse...and he wanted to use it up before moving onto Muntz metal? Coming from you...that last statement is disturbing.🤪 When have you ever known me to diverge from the historical facts..... for an artistic option? I expect to either be corrected by you, or given your concurrence, but to simply give up and defer to, *It's your model, your choice*, Well.....I find that out of character. Not to mention the expression that must have been on your face while you were typing that.🤣 But as I posted earlier...Duncan McLean stated she was coppered below. I think he would have made the correct distinction. Unless I'm totally off base here. Rob
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It’s the Constitution. Duncan McLean is the one who said she was clad in copper. Rob
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I’ve been thinking about the copper bottom. Staghound had copper, not muntz metal. I want to patina the copper and possibly make it white to light green around the waterline. Rob
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I have that movie…….I just can’t get my wife to watch it with me……Gots to sneak it in sometime. Rob
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Rich, we know the the rake of all her masts, per Duncan McLean is 1ft per 8ft. Which equates to 6deg. Reviewing Chapelle’s drawing…..he has the main and mizzen at 6deg, but the fore is only 4deg……? Are we missing something or did ole Chapelle’s, miss something? Rob
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I didn’t want to step on your toes, but the plate example you gave of an actual hull is more of what you’re looking for. The nail impressions need to be imprints not headed. Good job Rob
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Good call Rich. See……if we keep chiseling away at the slight errors …..the truth reveals itself. I’m liking your remake, it’s looking more like what I envisioned too. Rob
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Well you don't want the nails to protrude like rivet heads. You're doing so well....don't make that mistake. Rob
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Wow Luis...you've been busy. So, I'm assuming your search for another AMERICAN clipper has landed you on the Staghound? I hope you feel comfortable in joining us as we finalize her hull and deck furniture. Again....good to see again. Rob
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I see you used a 36" door...why not a 28" door...that would save you 8" extending the clearance between the portico roof and the mizzen.....? Rob
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Well McLean says the portico is aft of the mizzen. Champelle's rendering puts the portico in just about the same place that you placed it...without the roof access and stanchioned rail. I'm opting to keep this configuration since it found resolution with others. Also his poop height and portico roof align with the main rail and monkey rail prospectively. As far as the spider band is concerned.....since the mizzen has a fife rail...no spider band is needed...just the spanker boom foot rest. The spanker gaff lift can be purchased and belayed at the fife rail.....unless the forward portico roof rail can also act as a fife rail...which would make sense. Rob
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