DanielD

4 hours ago, allanyed said:

The boats are upside down but those on Clearway's are not.   I don't recall seeing them upside down on any ship, but was this an exception because of her role or was there some other reason?  Handling them from the upside down position would be a nightmare, especially if it was an emergency situation.   Hopefully there is some contemporary information on the whys on this one.

Allan

Allan, I’m not a sailor by any means so have no direct experience with these boats, but they are fairly large and I can see the difficulty in moving them around if upside down. The boats I have at the stern are not yet secured, so I have time to think about how to display them. The idea for me came in the form of Dr. Betts blog on the terror and his recent book, HMS Terror ~ The Design, Fitting and Voyages of the Polar Discover Ship. If you plan to build the Terror with upgrades outside what comes in the kit, I would suggest this book.
 

According to Dr. Betts, the Terror sailed in 1845 with 9 small boats, a 28’ Pinnace, a 30’ Galley, two 30’ whale boats, two 25’ cutters, a 23’ cutter, a 22’ Gig, and a 12’ dinghy. I plan to have 4 hanging from the curved davits, one mid deck that I just secured in place, and 4 on the aft deck. Here is a partial drawing from the book, I don’t want to include the entire image so I don’t have any copyright issues, but you can see where I got my idea…

Outstanding work and model!

Well, I had a little bit more time before bed so I mounted one of the auxiliary boats to the deck.

One more hatch to make, a couple signal cannons to mount and some barrels to settle in place…then back to standing rigging I missed at the bow…then on to making the yards. Slow steady progress. Thank for all the looks and help, especially KeithS and Clearway Keith!

Good evening modelers and other Terror builders. I have been going over the deck designs from Dr. Matthew Betts book, HMS Terror ~ The Design, Fitting and Voyages of the Polar Discovery Ship and discovered I missed one hatch. Just aft of the mainmast and forward of the aft companionway is a small hatch that covers the scuttle for the spare rudder. Now I see this hatch on the OcCre instructions, I just missed it. Glad I caught it now before it gets harder to reach 😳.

Good evening all. I have been avoiding creating the spare parts stanchions and guards as I was unsure how to make them. I don’t know if I choose the best way, but decided to make the stanchions from brass bollards and solder brass wire to make the L shape suggested in Dr. Betts design drawings, and a fine brass wire soldered between the stanchions to make the guard. Below is the final result, one without spare parts and the other with extra mast parts. Any thoughts on if these spare parts would have been painted? Maybe as a preservative? Or would the parts have been left raw so that they could be made into whatever was needed? 
 

Well, getting tight on the deck so decided to finish the deck works before anymore rigging. Added some barrels, the main anchor chain, and finishing up the color scheme on the extra boats. Still so much to do…

Good evening all, the next task I attempted is an update of the sled I made about a year ago. I didn’t have plans, just some images and sketches from Matthew Betts blog on the Terror, but I was never happy with my build. Then comes the long awaited book HMS Terror: The Design, Fitting and Voyages of the Polar Discovery Ship by Dr. Matthew Betts, in which he has details drawings of the sled. I scaled the drawings to my ship attempting every detail my skill level would allow. Below, the old sled (left) and the new version (right). I’m very happy with the results.

3 hours ago, allanyed said:

You are a very wise modeler.  Your Terror is one of the best we have seen. 

 

Thank you allanyed! You are too kind. I hope you have seen keiths and clearway’s versions, as they are stunning.

Well, I finally have the curved davits temporarily installed…looking for the next task to work on…hmm…

3 hours ago, clearway said:

safe to say you, keith s and myself have moved away from the occre instructions slightly!!

 

Keith

What instructions? I haven’t looked at those in months, 😂 

More curved davits temporarily fitted. Moving along nicely.

14 hours ago, clearway said:

look good Daniel- i wouldn't permanently install the davits til all the running rigging is complete though as they will obstruct access and catch every line that goes near them.

 

Keith

Good point! I’ll get the brackets fit so everything works, a picture or two, then remove them until later on. Thanks!

Good evening all, the project for the last few days was the design and building of Terrors curved davits. Here is the first one installed. It’s my first time using the laminated technique to make curved lumber. I’m fairly happy with the result.

More work in the shipyard this weekend, finishing up the standing rigging. Or at least I think I finished it. Will have to go back and check a few things to make sure, but taking a break from rigging to build some curved davits.

I took a partial screen shot out of Matthew Betts book on the Terror and scaled it to my model, using his research to define the curve for my davits. I used some 1mm x 4mm spare planks and laminate them to make my davits. So far I’m fairly happy with the outcome. Pictures of the davits coming soon.

 Here is the latest on the ship it’s self.

Good evening everyone, thanks for stopping by. Finally finished all the rat lines. Almost done with the standing rigging! Here is the latest…

Well friends, the shipyard has been slow this week, maybe it’s because rat lines was on the menu. Updated pictures.

Thanks for a little of your time and the likes! More work going on in the shipyard today. Finally finished the standing rigging on the main mast. Here is the latest update.

Keith, I'm starting to contemplate how I'm going to make the curved davits. Did you use a laminating technique or soften with water, bend to shape and dry? Or some other method?

Daniel

More main mast standing rigging work. Took a few days, but here is the latest status image.

Good evening all. I think my eyes are a bit cross eyed with all the rat line work. Today I finished the main mast rat lines.

Keith, as I’m reading Dr. Betts book on the Terror, page 145 on the Kindle version, I came across this regarding the davits in addition to the above post.

Good evening all, more bowsprit work with much of the fore mast standing rigging finished.

 Now back to rat lines…

2 minutes ago, clearway said:

many thanks Daniel, looks like curved davits it is. Cant wait till the hard copy is available in October will be an interesting read.

 

Keith

Keith, I’m about 1/3 through the book and am impressed on what this ship went through over the course of her life. That being said, I’ve not made it to the section of the book before her last voyage… I do think the book is well done for what it set out to do. 
 

Daniel

20 hours ago, clearway said:

Also been thinking about the davit arms and think KeithS might be on to something with the curved arms as opposed to straight on the 1836 drawings, have looked at other ships from same period and they did have curved davits. The enigma that is Terror continues..... we need Mr Betts book!

 

Take care all

Keith

Kieth, while I have not been able to get a hard copy of Dr. Betts book, I have been able to purchase a kindle version. Below are a couple screen shots that I found in the book.

#1: Erebus and Terror prior to departure for the Northwest Passage. (The Illustrated London News, 24 May 1845) - appears to show a curved stern davit.

#2: Terror, which Stanley called ‘our friend and Pitcher’, under tow by Blazer, 30 May, 1845, Owen Stanley. (National Library of Australia, Bib ID 2484716) - also shows a curved davit 

#3: And the last image, a portion of Dr. Betts research and drawings shows curved davits.

I think curved davits is where I’m heading with my Terror.

Daniel

Good evening all, more work in the shipyard today. Spent some time working on the bowsprit. I didn’t realized how much work is involved.