Mirabell61

Build log part 28
 
 
here are some changes to the lower section to the Stern Appeal...
(initiative born by fellow members)
 
 

this was the look before...
 

and here before...
 

and here after the change
 

 

Close ups are always risky, but I trust it`s OK to Show...
 

 

the combinattion of partially cut away portside planking and actual outside bulwark decor above.
That Stringer on portside just above the wales will have to take on the chainplate fastening bolts later on
 
 
 
 
 
Build log part 29 to follow....
 
Nils

Build log part 27
 
 
 
 

starboard side first metal Support bracket for step platform
 

second bracket mounted and brought to alignment
 

platform fit test and weight testing
 

check out guns placed underneath and ladder inbetween (to be shortend accordingly)
Still Need to do the same experience on port side
 

Arrangement of chainpump crank handle and bearing supports
 

view through quarter badge window. Unfortunately the first and the last two links of the Girlande broke off and unfindable got lost somewhere...
 

I first wanted to decorate the cabins with furniture, but I think I`ll leave it as is (less is more)
 
 
Build log part 28 to follow...
 
Nils

build log part 26
 
 
 

the forecastle underdeck will be next
 

Shows what share is cut away of the poop deck
 

here view into bottom cargo deck with shot locker, lower well area, storage rooms and staircases, and middle deck with upper well area, pantry and staircase.
 

Forward decks with Crew quarters, staircases. Righthand the sailroom on the middle deck
 
 

aft Portion with officers quarters. Masters cabin starboard behind the middle deck stairs, an rum barrel
 

the guns under the poopdeck will Need to be rigged before the deck gets mounted
 

 
 

shall use figures with 26 mm height (26 x 64 = 1664 mm ) considering the average actual sailors height with 165 cm that seems OK
The upper bulwark / Stern angle brackets are only preliminary, they shall be replaced later
 

 

 
 
Build log part 27 to follow...
 
 
Nils

Build log part 25
 
 
 
Fitting out of the aft two bulkheads, that will allow a later look into through the half cut away poopdeck from above
 
 

the first mast channel Support brackets are still missing
 

 
 

here the doors for the gundeck aft bulkhead, and the great cabin bulkhead. Because I started the starboard bulwark inner planking in oak, here again oak is used
 

double doors to the great cabin. The doorpanels are of ply Color framed with Mahagoni
 

rear side view. Here I`ll leave the Mahagoni Framework for the double doors away, and the brass knobs are only handles
 

this bulkhead with the two double doors is the aft end of the gun deck, here in raw process...
 
 
Nils

Thank you Mark,
 
I see you are speaking out of experience...., and you`re so right I am constantly thinking it over twice, what is to be fitted on next, for exactly that reason. Am working on the galley stove at the Moment.
 
I still need Information where the anchor ropes are guided to when they come in through the round anchor rope holes in the bow, and at which Point they are led into their coil rope locker (somewhere under the gun deck deck ?)
 
Nils

So many details that take so much time and never seem to end!  The other big thing is the worry that you will forget something then plank over, making it next to impossible to go back and put it in.  So glad you have not had any of those moments.
 
Looking great.  Everything is coming together for you!  So much planning up front has produced results.
 
Mark

Build log part 29
 
 
Now starting with fitting out forecastle beneath and on top of that deck
 
 

Fitting the first two Posts that also take up the bowsprit counterplate
 

the gundeck is cut away, wide under the forecastle deck as well..., to allow view from above to lower decks
 

tried to gain standhight for the Crew here as well (as good as possible)
 

Access to the forecastle deck shall be over the hatch-opening on starboard deck side (per Stair, the deckbeam shall be cut away at that Position. The stair shall fit nicely in between the first two gun tackles
 

the two masterboards fitted in place
 

view underneath...
 
 

deck openings for gratings, stovechimney
 

the planking of the deck will be done later on
 
 
 
 
 
Build log part 30 to follow....
 
Nils

Build log part 28
 
 
here are some changes to the lower section to the Stern Appeal...
(initiative born by fellow members)
 
 

this was the look before...
 

and here before...
 

and here after the change
 

 

Close ups are always risky, but I trust it`s OK to Show...
 

 

the combinattion of partially cut away portside planking and actual outside bulwark decor above.
That Stringer on portside just above the wales will have to take on the chainplate fastening bolts later on
 
 
 
 
 
Build log part 29 to follow....
 
Nils

Build log part 29
 
 
Now starting with fitting out forecastle beneath and on top of that deck
 
 

Fitting the first two Posts that also take up the bowsprit counterplate
 

the gundeck is cut away, wide under the forecastle deck as well..., to allow view from above to lower decks
 

tried to gain standhight for the Crew here as well (as good as possible)
 

Access to the forecastle deck shall be over the hatch-opening on starboard deck side (per Stair, the deckbeam shall be cut away at that Position. The stair shall fit nicely in between the first two gun tackles
 

the two masterboards fitted in place
 

view underneath...
 
 

deck openings for gratings, stovechimney
 

the planking of the deck will be done later on
 
 
 
 
 
Build log part 30 to follow....
 
Nils

Build log part 28
 
 
here are some changes to the lower section to the Stern Appeal...
(initiative born by fellow members)
 
 

this was the look before...
 

and here before...
 

and here after the change
 

 

Close ups are always risky, but I trust it`s OK to Show...
 

 

the combinattion of partially cut away portside planking and actual outside bulwark decor above.
That Stringer on portside just above the wales will have to take on the chainplate fastening bolts later on
 
 
 
 
 
Build log part 29 to follow....
 
Nils

Build log part 23
 
 
 
I would so much like to carry on with the bow area, but realize that there is a lot to still be done underneath the forecastle deck first. Think I will have do the stove and other Details in near future
 
 

the portside guns will be rigged Standing on the Support rails under the carriage wheels
 

all te svivel gunposts are only in "raw" condition, may want to get them 8-sided in upper portions
 

Status overview
 

just Setting the new guns in place for Dimension checking
 
 

I tryed to get the rudder coppering only, shiny again, used Lemon concentrate Juice, it works very easy
but I don`t know if I should have done that. I love the greenish Patina look like some others have tryed already
 
 
 
Nils

Doing the guns in repeatable mode saves some time, once the method is on track...
My work desk is quite a mess, since I have my own room and do`nt have to clean up during the day, and I still have 4 more to do.
 
Am thinking of adding small wooden splints to the axis close to the wheels, but shall do that as last Action
 
Nils
 
 

Trial #1, small wire Pins secure wheels on axis
 

Trial #2, small wooden splints hold back the wheels (I prefer this Version)
 

Gun builders desk
 

have 10 done so far, 4 more to go..

I`ve been busy this afternoon Popeye,
 
those guns are so small and there are first 3 finished out of 14 in total to be built..., but I trust the production is well repeatable by now
 
Nils
 
 
 

fits easy on 1/2 a thumb
 

I agree Popeye, good idea,
 
the gun Lifting / changing Detail would be for an action-type Diorama. It could be inspiring for the diorama builders here on MSW.
 
Nils
 
wheels attached now, I think I should`nt put more to it...
 

Build log part 22
 
 
beginning with the guns....
 
 

this was thie first mock up model for checking dimensions, breech rope to be exchanged against natural hemp Color, dolphins on Barrel to be left away
 

staining the carriages
 

breechrope eyelet, other block tackle eyelets, caps on barrel Pivot pin, wheels still in the pipe...
 

 
 

 
 

here my jig for making the caps
 

use ordinary plumbers plyers for pressing the caps in shape
 
 
 
Nils

Today I could make a Little Progress, and started to put some profiled brass on to the bow eking rails, because I had no luck in Scratching or carving decors into it. I think I`ll do this with the main rails as well and then taper the front wooden portions a bit.
 

 
One Thing I never recocnized up to now was the tricky tackle of the guns, it requires quite some space to get all the blocks in Arrangement lengthwise. A Little model was made to do some Trials. This is only for checking dimensions
 

 

 

 
 
I still had some oak Planks 1 x 5 mm and used These for the inner bulwark. After Fixing These permanently the gunports had to be cut away.... I wish I had`nt taken oak, ist too brittle and started breaking in many places.
 

 

 
 
 
Nils

part 21 of build log
 
The rudder
 
 
Nils
 









 

Peter,
you may be right, but there are still so many fine Details to be done. Next to the rigging sometime this year I would also intend to make a full suit of sails of which I have no plans yet.
But in the meantime there Needs to be a lot more work on the hull. Regarding to the coppering, which I completed today I shall go for the rudder now (a double nail capline on the copperline is not attached yet) to provide a neat horizontal finish to the coppering. It went so well, doing the "plates" from tape, actually 4-5 in row at a time, I could hardly believe the Speed myself. Also I have a prototype of a brass Investment casting of the figurehead under way, am expecting it curiously next week, if it works out well.
 
Nils
 

 

 

 

 
 
 

Pegasus, build log Picture lot 19
 
Beginning with the rudder System....
 
 

started with a Trial sample on the rudderblade hinges, the rudder was made from 4 bars 4,5 x 4,5mm, fitted after coppering the rudder
 

These hinge parts will be cut off, they go to the hull, after coppering
 

the ruddershaft goes through all the decks
 

self explaining
 
 
 

Trials for coppering now completed,
 
started with coppering yesterday (pic. lot 18), simultaniously started with the ruddersystem (pic. lot 19), because that shall be fitted when the coppering is finished
 
Nils
 
 
Lot 18
 

shall probably follow the flattend verion
 

after 6 Trials made up my mind....
 

beginning with starboard side
 

not so accurate, as industrial made plates, but therefore selfmade
 

the copperline was drawn with a soft pencil
 

it turned out best results when following the planking pattern...
 

i am pleased in not using CA glue, that allways messes up the fingertips
 

Startpreparation bottom Stern on port side
 

the sternpost is 4,5 mm wide, the rudder will be 4mm (would be 256 mm on actual ship)
 

view from aft
 

coppering Trials...
 
here for comparing....
 
the upper Portion of this Trial sample Shows unflattend "nailheads" but I think that appearence would be too much dominating the nails
 
Nils
 

Here comes part 17 of my buildlog,
 
 
 
after this I shall have to sort out the further logisticwise Approach in my actual build sequence, it may be the rudder System, Fitting out the rear cabins on the gundeck, or Gunport covers, or, or....
 
 
 

for decks I use cardboard templates for tranfering the shapes onto the 0,8mm ply, they allow easy necessary adjustments during prefitting
 

this is the stand in view from below with the pedestal bolts coming through
 

dealing with the first Trials on the swivel guns, using RB Model 15mm gunbarrels. I shall scrap this first Trial for the mounting device again.
B.E. Shows us an excellent solution for the mounting brackets. I hope that Amati may take this up and provide an etchpart solution ammendment to the brass Sheets, because of the limited amout of brass hooks
 

unfortunately my camera provides no macro Feature.... for the Close ups
 

just an alternative solution, B.E. also here has a great alternative to Show, well done !
 

 

This Little jig supports during driiling pivotpin hole and handle hole into the unbored RB models 15mm length gunbarrels
 


two more Pictures of the stand, this is an easy priceworthy way of getting a not too fancy stand
 
 
 
 
At this buildstage ( I asked Forum members before in my buildlog) any Input on the question : coppering the hull or not ? would be appreciated. Pros and cons would be very welcome. I did a lot of "steelplating" on model hulls before, but that was representing iron/steel plated hulls in riveted Detail (like Titanic, etc.) on early steamships.
 

this is what I meant, it`s showing the 1400 mm Long raw hull of the german/ australian line Steamer Elbing launched in year 1898
 
The 18th century coppering plates are more or less nailed (model : glued) on to the planking, but also hiding the wooden planking structure
 
Nils

Good day B.E.
here just a quick Illustration how I meant it with the space, the stairs and clearance to 1st and 2nd gun. The gangwayplanks you provided are still going roun in my head, because I really like them. What do you think about my stair Version in combination with your G-Plank Version ? The swivel gun attendants would not interfere with the heavy gunner Crew one deck lower in battle....
 
Nils
 
 

 

 

Thanks Andy, yeh this is the fun part tangeling with pesky cant frames that don't want to line up, had to remove one side of frame 3 as it decided to move position while the glue dried!!
 
Here is aft cant pair #4 installed, just need to install the temp spacers.
 
Ben

Here are some pics of aft cant frames 8 thru 10 installed.
Making up the last 3 frames now.
 
Ben