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Mirabell61 reacted to Tankerman in HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - FINISHED - Caldercraft/Jotika - 1:64
Hi Sjors, I have been following your build of this model with interest as I made the same kit some years ago and I am impressed with your work so far.
I note that you you are having trouble with the stern so I thought you'd like to see a photo of my attempt at this area, I hope it helps you.
Chris
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Mirabell61 reacted to dgbot in Gorch Fock 2 by Mirabell61 - FINISHED - scale1:95
Very nice keep up the good work
David B
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Mirabell61 got a reaction from archjofo in Gorch Fock 2 by Mirabell61 - FINISHED - scale1:95
Build log part 3
poopdeck eyelets
preparing for the welldeck pinrails
These pinrails are designed to withstand Forces initiated by the later rig
wear sections of the pinrails bear brass inserts
eyelets for foremast shrouds and backstays
especially the eyelets for the shrouds and backstays have to be well countered from beneath the decK
Build log part 4 tofollow....
Nils
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Mirabell61 reacted to Mike Dowling in Bounty by Mike Dowling - FINISHED - OcCre - 1/45
Hi guys and gals! I'm back having completed my second deck!! A bit if a challenge owing to the 'bendy' character of wood but eventually all the bits fitted as required.
The dreaded planking gets ever closer and I am still trying to get my head round the procedure.
So far I understand 'fairing' the hull and don't have a problem with it. 'Lining off' is a different matter! Some people seem to advocate the use of temporary battens whilst others favour using string or similar. What I can't understand is that if you use battens without subjecting them to any lateral stress, they seem to me to sit differently from using string. The latter seems to be placing the string by eye for a pleasing curve rather than where the wood 'wants' to go. Help please!
Also, I assume when working out the number of planks that are needed I should measure the widest bulkhead which would be midships and divide that by the maximum width of the planking wood provided. Is that right?
I don't understand the purpose of a fan template. I can see that it would provide a regular taper but boats are not like that. It seems you would have to have one for the stem and one for the stern but the template starts at one point and expands theoretically to infinity so where do you start from. You see I am really struggling with the concept here!! More help please.
This becomes even more complicated with this particular kit and the 'nose' section of the boat is not fitted until after the first planking. It is eventually covered by the second planking.
The instructions advocate using as many straight pieces as possible and filling in the gaps afterwards with long wedge shaped pieces. Whilst I am sure this would do the job I am also sure that the good ship builders out there would throw up their hands in horror. What shall I do??
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Mirabell61 reacted to Mike Dowling in Bounty by Mike Dowling - FINISHED - OcCre - 1/45
Hi everyone, at last some more pictures for you. As you can see, the whole framework has now been stained and the bottom deck cut, planked glued and varnished, cabins and bilge on top and beams ready for the next deck.
A couple of thoughts. Firstly despite what some would have us believe plywood does warp, badly!! Also CA glue does not like varnish at all. I must remember not to varnish the bits I have to glue afterwards!!
I find it hard to believe I have put in so many hours with not a lot to show for it all. Still it doesn't matter, it is a challenge and good fun.
Is 'kit bashing' when you get really fed up and smash it all to bits or is it altering the bits that should fit and do not or will not? If it is the latter than a good bash has been had already!.
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Mirabell61 got a reaction from archjofo in Gorch Fock 2 by Mirabell61 - FINISHED - scale1:95
Build log part 31
aft deckhouse (command cabin and nav- and Chart-room) and spare aft anchor.
the blue guy had always become too much Porridge as a Baby already and now has to leave the Crew for his size
chest-cover to sit on, for the auilliary rudder mechanics, here still without wheel
some brass pinrails to the deckhouse, and the main rudderstand saddle for the 3 steering wheels, this rudderstand (the wheels) is operated manualy if necessary by up to 6 men
the Long boom outside starboard bulwark is swivible and required for fastening the boats in water (when rigged 90° square to the hull). The brass wire through the top spanner-eyelets is only preliminary and prevents the spanners from tilting down between bulwarks and inboard pinrails
vents and Skylight added on top of the small well-deckhouse
Build log part 32 to follow.....
Nils
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Mirabell61 got a reaction from flying_dutchman2 in Gorch Fock 2 by Mirabell61 - FINISHED - scale1:95
Build log part 30
check for cutter on the boats rack
captain`s pinnace goes besides the cutter
first deck Skylights....
Build log part 31 to follow....
Nils
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Mirabell61 reacted to maurino in Gorch Fock 2 by Mirabell61 - FINISHED - scale1:95
Thank you for sharing with us your beautiful models.
Mauro
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Mirabell61 got a reaction from archjofo in Gorch Fock 2 by Mirabell61 - FINISHED - scale1:95
Build log part 32
Walking Planks at the boat stations, and further vents
funnel, vents, wheelstand, two compas stands, Skylight and rudderposition indicators, the boat is just for checking available space in length
nav light Towers (here still without lanterns)
Forward vents, radar-bar, fog horn and forecastle raft Containments mounted
cradle device for strapping raft containers
navlight containments
Build log part 33 to follow....
Nils
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Mirabell61 got a reaction from flying_dutchman2 in Gorch Fock 2 by Mirabell61 - FINISHED - scale1:95
Build log part 31
aft deckhouse (command cabin and nav- and Chart-room) and spare aft anchor.
the blue guy had always become too much Porridge as a Baby already and now has to leave the Crew for his size
chest-cover to sit on, for the auilliary rudder mechanics, here still without wheel
some brass pinrails to the deckhouse, and the main rudderstand saddle for the 3 steering wheels, this rudderstand (the wheels) is operated manualy if necessary by up to 6 men
the Long boom outside starboard bulwark is swivible and required for fastening the boats in water (when rigged 90° square to the hull). The brass wire through the top spanner-eyelets is only preliminary and prevents the spanners from tilting down between bulwarks and inboard pinrails
vents and Skylight added on top of the small well-deckhouse
Build log part 32 to follow.....
Nils
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Mirabell61 got a reaction from archjofo in Gorch Fock 2 by Mirabell61 - FINISHED - scale1:95
Sailing ship, threemast-barque Gorch Fock 2 in scale 1:95
Introduction to this build by Nils Langemann
When choosing my first tallship for modeling, the choise for either Gorch Fock 2 or for Pamir was not so easy, so finally I decided to build both, the Gorch Fock 2 to begin with, and the other to follow on in staggered time schedule.
The Gorch Fock 2 is the follower of the still existing german Gorch Fock 1 and bearing the original Name again (ex russian Tovarisch, now towed to the pier in Stralsund harbour, Baltic sea), which had several sisterships, one of them being the still serving USS Eagle of the US Coast Guard.
GF 2 was launched 1958 at Hamburg Blohm & Voss shipyard, build N° 804 and to be used as a cadet training ship for the German Navy, Bundesmarine. She since then, and after several updates in look and techniques does her duty bravely. She is well known on the seven seas and in many ports. She is also participating in many “Operation Sail” events and to be seen amoungst other tallships.
Compared with the ultimate version of today I preferred to model the 1960 ties version for its more interesting look, with the more nostalgic looking boats and the motorized commanders launch. The model should be carrying all 23 sails and be fully rigged, if I would manage to do so. The ships hull in actual and in model is representing more the look of a large yacht, because of the slim fine lines and the missing cargo holds.
The ultimate version differs in color, has a larger oval shaped funnel, more modern navigation equipment, a variable pitch propeller, larger portholes (safety reasons, allows a man passing through !!) and modern rescue- and lifesaving equipment. Also a side-thrust prop was fitted in the bow Sub waterline section, as well as many inside fitting out updates.
When looking out for a suitable plan to build the model from scratch, I found a lonesome set of frames in correct scale at an Ebay auction and decided to trim and update these for my project. I saved myself some plywood-cutting-out right at the beginning, that gained some time for doing other things. The other data and rating I found in some GF2 related books, and besides that at that time, I still had a wonderful rare scale 1:150 GF 2 Kit in Plastic by Revell, that had never been built nor started, but representing a very useful pattern for enlargement to scale 1:95 (rating wise)
I started gathering all information and pictures of details I could get, and started to lay the keel. It should take me appr. 1,5 years to finalize the model. Many experienced techniques could be addopted to the Pamir build whereby not so good results on GF2 modeling techniques could be avoided or improved.
Have fun in exploring this build log
Nils
unmistakeable, the white barque with the golden flying Albatros figurehead, which had to be replaced several times when going lost in rough trips
The since WW1 late german writer, Johann Wilhelm Kienau, pseudonyme "Gorch Fock" is the name giver to this vessel
Build log Part 1
I tried to get a better print into this Formate, but not possible at this framerate
SSS stands for Segel-Schul-Schiff on the nameplate
the single Frames contours would not allow 2-dimentional deck curvature, so the Basic Support was done this way
the decks are from 1,5 mm aero-plywood and preplanked (3 x 1mm stripes) before mounting (structure done by charcoaling plank edges with a masons pencil, before gluing to the deckplates
stern fill blocks in multilayer ply, the deck Panels are checked for size with a Little surplus all around
deck curvatures clearly to be seen here
decks brought into shape with rough outer trimm
poop bulkhead and deckhousings started
Build log part 2 to follow....
Nils
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Mirabell61 got a reaction from flying_dutchman2 in Gorch Fock 2 by Mirabell61 - FINISHED - scale1:95
Build log part 32
Walking Planks at the boat stations, and further vents
funnel, vents, wheelstand, two compas stands, Skylight and rudderposition indicators, the boat is just for checking available space in length
nav light Towers (here still without lanterns)
Forward vents, radar-bar, fog horn and forecastle raft Containments mounted
cradle device for strapping raft containers
navlight containments
Build log part 33 to follow....
Nils
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Mirabell61 got a reaction from mtaylor in Gorch Fock 2 by Mirabell61 - FINISHED - scale1:95
Build log part 31
aft deckhouse (command cabin and nav- and Chart-room) and spare aft anchor.
the blue guy had always become too much Porridge as a Baby already and now has to leave the Crew for his size
chest-cover to sit on, for the auilliary rudder mechanics, here still without wheel
some brass pinrails to the deckhouse, and the main rudderstand saddle for the 3 steering wheels, this rudderstand (the wheels) is operated manualy if necessary by up to 6 men
the Long boom outside starboard bulwark is swivible and required for fastening the boats in water (when rigged 90° square to the hull). The brass wire through the top spanner-eyelets is only preliminary and prevents the spanners from tilting down between bulwarks and inboard pinrails
vents and Skylight added on top of the small well-deckhouse
Build log part 32 to follow.....
Nils
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Mirabell61 reacted to maurino in Gorch Fock 2 by Mirabell61 - FINISHED - scale1:95
A beautiful model in every small detail.
Mauro
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Mirabell61 got a reaction from marktiedens in Gorch Fock 2 by Mirabell61 - FINISHED - scale1:95
Build log part 32
Walking Planks at the boat stations, and further vents
funnel, vents, wheelstand, two compas stands, Skylight and rudderposition indicators, the boat is just for checking available space in length
nav light Towers (here still without lanterns)
Forward vents, radar-bar, fog horn and forecastle raft Containments mounted
cradle device for strapping raft containers
navlight containments
Build log part 33 to follow....
Nils
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Mirabell61 got a reaction from NMBROOK in Gorch Fock 2 by Mirabell61 - FINISHED - scale1:95
Build log part 31
aft deckhouse (command cabin and nav- and Chart-room) and spare aft anchor.
the blue guy had always become too much Porridge as a Baby already and now has to leave the Crew for his size
chest-cover to sit on, for the auilliary rudder mechanics, here still without wheel
some brass pinrails to the deckhouse, and the main rudderstand saddle for the 3 steering wheels, this rudderstand (the wheels) is operated manualy if necessary by up to 6 men
the Long boom outside starboard bulwark is swivible and required for fastening the boats in water (when rigged 90° square to the hull). The brass wire through the top spanner-eyelets is only preliminary and prevents the spanners from tilting down between bulwarks and inboard pinrails
vents and Skylight added on top of the small well-deckhouse
Build log part 32 to follow.....
Nils
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Mirabell61 got a reaction from mtaylor in Gorch Fock 2 by Mirabell61 - FINISHED - scale1:95
Build log part 30
check for cutter on the boats rack
captain`s pinnace goes besides the cutter
first deck Skylights....
Build log part 31 to follow....
Nils
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Mirabell61 got a reaction from flying_dutchman2 in Gorch Fock 2 by Mirabell61 - FINISHED - scale1:95
Build log part 29
decks ready for Fitting out
Stern and bow of hull so far done
checking backstays alignment with regular Cotton thread strings first
set of masts and Yards painted
Build log part 30 to follow....
Nils
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Mirabell61 got a reaction from mtaylor in Gorch Fock 2 by Mirabell61 - FINISHED - scale1:95
Build log part 32
Walking Planks at the boat stations, and further vents
funnel, vents, wheelstand, two compas stands, Skylight and rudderposition indicators, the boat is just for checking available space in length
nav light Towers (here still without lanterns)
Forward vents, radar-bar, fog horn and forecastle raft Containments mounted
cradle device for strapping raft containers
navlight containments
Build log part 33 to follow....
Nils
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Mirabell61 got a reaction from SailorGreg in Gorch Fock 2 by Mirabell61 - FINISHED - scale1:95
Build log part 31
aft deckhouse (command cabin and nav- and Chart-room) and spare aft anchor.
the blue guy had always become too much Porridge as a Baby already and now has to leave the Crew for his size
chest-cover to sit on, for the auilliary rudder mechanics, here still without wheel
some brass pinrails to the deckhouse, and the main rudderstand saddle for the 3 steering wheels, this rudderstand (the wheels) is operated manualy if necessary by up to 6 men
the Long boom outside starboard bulwark is swivible and required for fastening the boats in water (when rigged 90° square to the hull). The brass wire through the top spanner-eyelets is only preliminary and prevents the spanners from tilting down between bulwarks and inboard pinrails
vents and Skylight added on top of the small well-deckhouse
Build log part 32 to follow.....
Nils
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Mirabell61 got a reaction from NMBROOK in Gorch Fock 2 by Mirabell61 - FINISHED - scale1:95
Build log part 32
Walking Planks at the boat stations, and further vents
funnel, vents, wheelstand, two compas stands, Skylight and rudderposition indicators, the boat is just for checking available space in length
nav light Towers (here still without lanterns)
Forward vents, radar-bar, fog horn and forecastle raft Containments mounted
cradle device for strapping raft containers
navlight containments
Build log part 33 to follow....
Nils
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Mirabell61 got a reaction from Saburo in Washington 1776 by Mike 41 - FINISHED - 1:48 - row galley
very nice work Mike,
clean accurate and wonderful joining. I like the answer you gave as to your intended Planking already, and expect your model to be one of the great ones at MSW.
Well done
Nils
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Mirabell61 reacted to captainbob in Lettie G Howard by captainbob - FINISHED - 1:48 - POB - schooner
Hi all,
The hull is finished. When they rebuilt Lettie, which is what the drawings were taken from, the fore deck was raised to match the poop deck. That’s why the deck measurement is longer. They also extended the monkey rail all the way to the bow. In trying to restore Lettie to original condition I installed the monkey rail around the stern, only up to the step in the deck.
I’m going to do something different this time. I’m going to paint the hull and then install the deck. On the one hand I won’t have to mask the deck; on the other it will be harder to sand the deck. Well that’s how we learn.
Bob
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Mirabell61 got a reaction from NMBROOK in Gorch Fock 2 by Mirabell61 - FINISHED - scale1:95
Build log part 30
check for cutter on the boats rack
captain`s pinnace goes besides the cutter
first deck Skylights....
Build log part 31 to follow....
Nils
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Mirabell61 got a reaction from Piet in Gorch Fock 2 by Mirabell61 - FINISHED - scale1:95
Build log part 31
aft deckhouse (command cabin and nav- and Chart-room) and spare aft anchor.
the blue guy had always become too much Porridge as a Baby already and now has to leave the Crew for his size
chest-cover to sit on, for the auilliary rudder mechanics, here still without wheel
some brass pinrails to the deckhouse, and the main rudderstand saddle for the 3 steering wheels, this rudderstand (the wheels) is operated manualy if necessary by up to 6 men
the Long boom outside starboard bulwark is swivible and required for fastening the boats in water (when rigged 90° square to the hull). The brass wire through the top spanner-eyelets is only preliminary and prevents the spanners from tilting down between bulwarks and inboard pinrails
vents and Skylight added on top of the small well-deckhouse
Build log part 32 to follow.....
Nils