Geowolf

On 7/26/2020 at 12:29 PM, ObviousNewbie said:

Hi all,

 

Working on the final details for Terror, I managed to rig the boom and the gaff (Sorry Keith S, our activities crossed, as you were posting your message I was finalising the rigging):

 

 

The line at the end of the boom is a bit of creative thinking, it seemed the only logical way to ensure the boom stayed up with the connections available. It's probably not historically accurate, but it seems to do the trick.

 

Anchors in place as well:

 

 

Finalised rigging on the bowsprit, leaving only the remaining davits and the sloops to be finalised. The sloops are a bit of a headache painting-wise: they're cast metal, and after trying to paint them with enamel (with bad results), I applied some Tamiya metal primer on the clean sloops and then applied the enamel (equally bad), I'm experimenting with how to get the correct look.

 

Meanwhile, the shipyard will not be empty after Terror:

 

 

Will start on Di as soon as Terror is finished. Ambitious (too much?), but right now the biggest challenge is to keep the box closed and sealed 🙂

 

the Admiral being Greek, she had a special request:

 

 

This is really freaking me out: single planking! Found some logs over here that document the builds though, hoping that will help...

 

Enjoy your weekend!

uuhhhh two new models! the Diana and the roman birreme!! 😱

another birreme is built at this moment by D_Mc (mantua model vs your Amati model), sure the plank is tricky, you'll know to curve it in 3D dimensions 😜

i'm not an expert but i think to avoid gaps between planks, do not use water to curve planks, only the electric solder to give the correct curvature. The planks with water inside are easy to fix but sometimes wheh dries, it leaves gaps. Or maybe you can fix it only with nails without glue, leave it to dry and fix it with the nails+glue, but very slow process.  

well done with Terror and sure new models will be both awesome!

regards,

F.

A superb model, and nice pictures!! i like a lot the second one, it seems we're seeing the ship from another one, very realistic! well done,

i can't imagine the hard life being a sailor inside this ships, going "upstairs" to extends or take the sails in a middle of a tempest at Artic region,... wow!! and actually we complain if our last Amazon order is being delayed hahahaha.

I've retaken the Patrick O'Brian books this summer, but more than Jack Aubrey i'm more identified with S. Maturin 😊

good summer for all and take care!  

F.

18 hours ago, ObviousNewbie said:

Hi F, checked the Occre site, they updated their product pages with a link to the the downloadable instructions. Grabbed both Diana and Beagle. Diana is a challenge, but she looks too good to resist 🙂

Ahhh perfect!! The Diana frigate model is very nice, i like It!! And you have a great level at this moment, sure you can do It.

Your Terror ship is awesome, i'm seeing your pictures. Well done!! 😃

2 minutes ago, Geowolf said:

Hi obvious, you can contact occre, maybe they can send you a PDF copy of the instructions. At occremania i'm sure they're ready to download for Terror, maybe not for the Diana, so you can send a mail

 

Regards,

 

F.

Confirmed the Diana is not at occremania, only the Terror, the Beagle, easy models. No doubt you can contact occre by mail they're very charm, and remember him you're already customer 😜

On 7/1/2020 at 9:11 AM, ObviousNewbie said:

Thnx! Glad to help if I can, but remember this is my first one, so make sure you check with more experienced builders, I don't want to pass on any bad habits 🙂

 

I'm eyeing 2 models actually, both from Occre: One is the Beagle:

The other one is the frigate Diana:

I have a slight preference for the second one, but it seems a lot more complex than Terror, so hesitating. Can't find any build logs either, and contrary to Beagle and Terror, Occre doesn't have any instruction videos, so I'll be jumping in at the deep end..

Hi obvious, you can contact occre, maybe they can send you a PDF copy of the instructions. At occremania i'm sure they're ready to download for Terror, maybe not for the Diana, so you can send a mail

Regards,

F.

Hi jandrus, greetings from BCN!! 😄😄😄

Great photos keith, for me very useful the pictures with the second planking, i'm terrified about it!! (Sorry bad joke), do you plan to use the metal planks or you'll leave the hull as this??

Regards,

F.

Hi drumgerry, another Terror joined to our fleet!! And regards to both Keith & whaka!!

About first planking i think is important a smooth curves, the laser burn must to be dissapeared with the sandpaper to achieve a smooth transition for the planks. Six planks at the top, six planks at the bottom, and finally fill the hull. Dont forget to use water some hours ago with the planks and if you have It, you can use an electric solder yo fix the curves before glue It, the later sanding Will be more easy

best regards,

F.

On 6/24/2020 at 9:15 PM, clearway said:

for weathering the lifeboat try a couple of washes of diluted grey paint to tone down the effect?

 

Keith

ahhh i wanted to do it with black paint at the junction between the hull and the benches, i'll make some test before 😅  

more photos about planking, please leave a comment; i'm seeing it not to bad, but this is my first planking "knowing that i'm done" hahaha. A bit tricky for me this stage,...

regards to all and keep pushing,

F.

ah sorry, Occre has sent to me a pdf copy of the instructions (full version with sails), if anyone wants a copy please send me a PM with your mail and i'll share you a Drive with the file (35Mb)

regards,

F.

hi Keith, very nice photos of your final planking, i'm seeing it with attention because in august i'll make mine

About final planking i'm reading it's necessary to "press" it with a solid piece of wood, to assure the planks are well glued (it's difficult to use the sandpaper because the final plank are too thin... The same as the deck. I'm not sure about it, but i plan to use a lot of sandpaper with the first plank trying to leave it as smooth, curved & sexy as possible!!

for glue i only use white transparent glue for wood, no contact glue or anything like this, for me it's very aggresive with the materials. This glue for wood remains five minutes more or less to dry but it's easy to take out/sanding if needed.   ç

regards to all,

F.

hi Miguel nice to meet you!! as you'll see, i think the spaniards are "rara avis" here, but the members are very kind people, collaborative and i feel at home here. Additionally is a great way to improve my english level hehehe. Greetings from BCN,

Hola Miguel encantado de conocerte! como verás creo que los españoles somos pocos aqui, pero los miembros del grupo son muy amables, colaborativos y me siento como en casa aqui. Ademas es una buena manera de mejorar el nivel de inglés jajaja. Un saludo desde BCN, 

wow, it's a difficult model! my first model Albatros was also difficult to modeling the wood,... the soldering iron & water are a great help to bend the wood, i also use it. I think the small & "simple" models are in fact more complex than larger models, because the pieces are smaller and a single piece of wood needs more bends if a differents senses, so very complicated!

keep pushing and regards, and take care! we're waiting more updates & photos 😊

F.

hi all, 

some photos of first stage of planking, i'm using a welder (it's the correct word?) to curve the wood slats. Previously i'm leaving the slats with water at least 12h.

finally one of the small boats, painted in brown/white colour with weather effect; long long time to take this effect and i'm not very happy with the final result,... two hands of brown paint, one hand vernish, two hands of white paint, sanding and the final vernish layer to fix it.

regards!!

F.  

Hi clearway, your Terror are very nice, i'm seeing you've a lot of XP making models!!! and the Victory is BIG!!!! 😅

i'm reviewing your photos, interesting the end of the first planking at the stern (sorry my english isn't capable of better description), i'm seeing also that for the bow you're not using the solid wood pieces included in the kit (well done, as expected for a master).

I'm starting the first planking stage, i'll upload some photos soon, 

regards,

F.

the finish of the copper layer are awesome!

do you plan to fix the corrosion & paint with a varnish or something like this? i'm using varnish overall, it's more easy to clean the dust. I'm suffering seeing your model with some years, if it's not sealed in a glass box...

great photos, regards!

Wow, the weathering is incredible, sure it's very difficult to take this level. I recognize my first time seeing the photos is a bit annoying, all people expects a great look, wonderful & brilliant colors, but… as more i see the photos, more i like it!!! in fact i'll apply it using chalk paint to my current Project, attached a photo.

And this is your decision, the most important is that you'll proud of your model. It'll be different and it's not easy in a global world, with hundreds of modellers making the same model with the same colors and same result. Well done!

Regards,

F.

Keith S, your ship looks great, and under the sunlight the colors are perfect! the details are awesome!

Good work, i want to see it finished!

F.

Nice ships, very clean and well executed!! about Racehorse by Sergal/Mantua was another option before choice my current project, please if you take it, start a thread step-by-step i'm interesting on it 🙏😃 

wellcome to this great family,

F. 

On 6/1/2020 at 2:53 PM, Keith S said:

 

In my kit there was the photos, a view of the deck from above in 1:1 scale, and some rigging diagrams. There was another booklet containing a materials list and some instructions. There were no blueprints.

 

The blueprints I have been using are a copy of the real ones, which I ordered from the British National Maritime Museum. On their website, they offer a service with which you can choose a document from their collection and they will copy and print it for you. They have a few blueprints of "Terror", but you have to be aware that "Terror" was very modified from her original version that no complete blueprints exist of exactly how she looked at the end. However, some of them are very close. The best resource you can use is this blog by a Canadian archaeologist: http://buildingterror.blogspot.com

 

This blog was created by a model builder named Matthew Betts, who is building a large 1:48 scale of Terror. He has done all the research and he has drawn new blueprints of how the ship looked in 1845, which you can look at on his blog. His research is what Occre used to make their model, and also he helped design the full-sized models used on the television programme called "The Terror". 

 

I hope this helps! Your work so far looks very tidy, and the brown colour you have used looks fine! 

ok thaks a lot, i think i have the same info in the kit, a bit short for me, sure i'll ask you for some questions 😅, the blog you indicated sure it's very interesting i'll see it

your last photo with wheel details is wonderful, your Terror is going pretty nice!! i love your atttention to the details, sure you must to be proud of your vessel

the mine is a bit stopped at this moment, between my job and my bike i have no time... maybe weekend i'll have more time take it & to upload some photos, im painting the small boats at this moment, testing paints.

thanks again and regards,

F.

15 hours ago, genocon said:

Wow. I think you did well on this model. You should see my first ship. A Revell plastic model of the Cutty Sark. I was 12. I put together all the plastic parts, never painting one, in about a day. Took me another two months to do the rigging. Man that thing had a lot of rigging. 

I'm getting better, but nothing as nice as your Albatros. 

thanks a lot genocon for your comments,

this models are a challenge, especially for the novels if they have no idea about wood construction, no tools, no room... the most important is no surrender and take another project, and improving each day! i'm seeing your beatiful models, your last Cutty Shark are very nice and clean, i love the planes the DC3 is wooonderful, a lot of work...

keep pushing!! regards,

On 6/3/2020 at 5:20 AM, BobG said:

Hello Geowolf,

 

When we were in the Pyrenees we stayed in the villages of Broto and Erill La Vall. We hiked in the Ordesa and Aigüestortes National Parks. We loved it and want to go back.

 

All the best,

Hi Bob, i'm from Barbastro (Huesca) so you pass across or near my village!! 😁

I hope we can travel around the world soon!! 

regards,

hi Marco,

i've located this link with a museum model ship, close in colours to your model, with a brief history:

Model of the galleon '' San Luis ''. The original was a two-bridge, 80-gun ship ordered to be built by Cardenal Richelieu in the first third of the 17th century. He participated in the attack against the towns of Santoña and Laredo. Model made by Marcos Pérez Domingo. It is located in the Museum of the Royal Artillery Factory of La Cavada in the town of La Cavada, Cantabria, Spain.

https://www.biodiversidadvirtual.org/etno/Maqueta-del-galeon-San-Luis-La-Cavada-img94530.html

maybe it helps you,

regards,

hi Keith S,

Ahh ok i understand the size is correct, the position has been altered slightly, ok i'll check it when y make this stage,

about Paints thanks a lot for your pictures, i like the english ochre! i'm using a chocolate colour for inside parts, i'm not sure is good (it's similar to the colour used at manual), but it's done 😅

About black & White color, i want a worn finish like the pictures at occre web page, leaving small parts of the hull with less Paint; this is the final result in my mind, we'll see the end hahaha.

The relationship with your wife is very beatiful, discussing the colors and finish for your ship! my girfriend only says the ships must to be burned and all floor is dirty…

Sorry one more question: in my kit i only have the printed A3 with photos (9 slides more or less), but not blueprints at real scale,... in my old Constructo kit i've this blueprints and it's very useful for me, please can you confirm if they're included in the kit or not? if yes i'll contact OCCRE, they're located in Mataró (very close to Barcelona) and maybe they can send it by mail,..

keep pushing your Terror!!!  😄👍