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Starting my very much looked forward to British Man O War. From looking at other builds on MSW I gather that this model provides the luxury of personal preference in color scheme. Anxious to see what I go with. I have already painted the deck sections and weathered them like old wood. I have also glued the hull halves together and used putty followed my sanding to hide the seam along the bottom. I followed this up with Vallejo surface primer since I plan to paint it with acrylic paint. I like to make a custom base for my ships since I don’t care much for the little plastic stands included with the kit. For the Man O War I employed a great idea another builder detailed on MSW. Once the hull was glued together I cut off the little tabs then turned it upside down in my drill press and carefully drilled holes through into the inside of the hull. Using epoxy I glued nuts over the holes on the inside that bolts will eventually screw into. I found a nice piece of veneer that I thought resembled the V shaped wake a ship makes as it cuts through the water. I glued the veneer up to some nice oak and cut the base shape to flow with veneer. Once I paint the hull I will assemble it by running bolts up through the bottom of the base then through two black pedestals the ship keel will set in, and then through the bottom of the ship and into the nuts epoxied into the interior of the hull. A test proved the plan results in a solid and level assembly.
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Hey Robert I got a question for you. I am starting my Man O War and I am curious of your process. In your pictures it looks as if you did a little of the hull painting before you glued the two halves together with the deck. Then after you put it together you continued and finished the remainder of the hull painting. Is that correct? I have all my pieces primed and will start the delicate painting. I am going to weather the deck first so it is ready to insert in the hull halves when it is time.
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OK Robert here goes. About to open Man O’ War. Will have this post bookmarked at my building table. Lot of great ideas.
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Hey we have pretty long longevity here in Kentucky!! I think it is the bourbon 😜🥃 I might have meant 1958.
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Shipman I know I was born before. I was 6 years in 1858. Great idea Ryland to post to the gallery. Have not done that before. Oh and I now have someone at the helm! Could have been a disaster 😀
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Good point on no one at helm Need to correct that! Thanks for the compliment.
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It is Finished! I have come to the end of this labor of love. My Revell 1/96 Cutty Sark is done. Many enjoyable hours spent engrossed in her build. My first attempt at making my own sails. Even though my stitches are out of scale I really like the look of them and will employee the same technique on my next build. Also liked furling the bottom sails. I want to thank everyone in this incredible site for your comments, suggestions, and answers to questions. I especially want to thank Shipman, Bob Fraser, Popeye, Rwiederrich, and mtaylor. Your help at times when I was stumped or needed advice was extremely helpful. Thanks again everyone. Now on to my next build the English Man O War.
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To add sails or not? What is your preference?
Bill97 replied to Bill97's topic in Masting, rigging and sails
Now that I have made my own sails for the Cutty Sark and like the looks I am thinking about going back to the USS Constitution I completed earlier this year and adding furled sails. I left the sails off when I built it because I did not like the plastic formed sails that came with the kit. I have reviewed several methods for making furled sails and am considering giving it a try. I am looking for an opinion. Would it look OK to just have furled sails on the mast yards and not do furled jib sails, staysails, spencer, spanker sail? The process I have researched looks doable for the straight yard sails but more complicated and risky with my rigging for the others. What do you think? Would you make the sails if just doing the yards or not do it at all?
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Thanks one more time John. I wondered about the proper way to rig the davits. In an earlier discussion about just that someone said the x pattern was proper and lines were not attached to lifeboats until needed. Will see which way I like better. I set the vangs to hold the spencer gaff centered on the deck. Seems to work fine. I am curious as to the source of your knowledge and ship experience. You seem as if you must have a thorough background or just a real strong interest in these type ships. I find them fascinating. And with your help I am learning more and more about the actual engineering of how and why. Not just glue part 11 to part 12 without knowing what those parts did and why. Very interesting. Thanks again.
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Thanks again John. Your nautical knowledge has been an incredibly helpful. So when I rig it he divots in the criss cross (X) pattern does it matter if I go in front of the vangs or behind? Inboard or outboard of the vangs? Thanks again for your help with the spanker sail. I included a photo of how I rigged it with the spanker partially furled.
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The Spencer Gaff rigging. As you can see in the instructions, it is to be tied off at blocks on pins 102 and 103 on opposite sides of ship. Those pins are right between the lifeboat divots.
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I previously said that was my last question so I guess I need to call this a curiosity maybe. On rigging the main course sail (bottom sail on main mast) and the main spencer sail, the instructions have me tie off to pins and the winch drum on both sides of the ship. Which I did as instructed. Those pins and winch drums are between the life boat davits. I have not rigged the davits yet. Waiting until I finish the running rigging. Curious if is going to look odd for the sail rigging lines to run through the davit rigging lines? And in actuality, not interfered with lowering the life boats?
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Perfect John. Thanks. Now I see exactly what you explained.
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John if you or anyone stumbles on a picture I would greatly appreciate it. Going to wait a few days to put on the sail to until I know for sure how it looks.
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Thanks John. That helps a lot.
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Ok my model building friends. I have one last question as I am bring my Cutty Sark to the finish. As you can see in the photo I attached I partially furled the bottom sail on each of the mast and the spencer sail. I did this, even though it may not be historically accurate, so that detail on the deck will be more visible. I want to finalize all the sails by also partially furling the spanker sail on the back. My question involves the spanker boom. Since the spanker sail is attached to the spanker boom do I just move it further up the mizzenmast and stay in line with the bottom of the sail, or do I not attach the sail to the boom? There is a connection point at the bottom of the mast for the spanker boom so I am not sure the right way to accomplish this.
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Thanks Dave. Yes that is exactly the way I repaired the jib boom. Did not think just gluing it would have held. Drilled both pieces and used a match stick. Finished rigging the 3 masts with all sails. Furled the bottom sails. After seeing other builder’s take on the Cutty Sark, I really like the white railing on the back and front instead of black. I removed the black thread, repainted the posts, and replaced the thread with white. Like it much better.
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After a mild disaster where I accidentally hit and broke off the job boom 😫(which I was eventually able to untangle the chains and ropes in order to repair) I have rigged the jib sails and some of the staysails. Moving right along with my progress.
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Robert here is mine ready to go once I finish my Cutty Sark. I will for sure refer to your build for tips as I go along. I have already been comparing your color palette and the one in the instructions for ideas. Now that she is finished what is next on your horizon?
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Great John. Just general working clothes for people who work outdoors. Probably just basic colors like black, brown, etc. Nothing colorful like military uniforms.
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Thanks John. Will research ordinary working clothes of the day and the blue serge uniform jacket. Bill
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Here is an interesting question maybe someone knows the answer too. I have tried Google and other sources but can’t find a good answer. What uniform did the crewman on the Cutty Sark wear? I enjoy painting the little crewman characters that come with the kits. Give me a fine tip brush and lighted magnification lens and I am good to go for a few hours. When I recently built the USS Constitution I was able to research military uniforms (Navy and Marine) for the area and easily found color pictures I could refer to. I know the Cutty Sark was a civilian ship with a crew of around 25-30 civilian crewman. Need color references if anyone has an idea.
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Decided to move the studding sail booms inboard since I will not be adding those sails. Removed them from the yards and now debating if I will reattach them in the inboard position or just leave them off all together. Completed the running rigging on the backside of the foremast sails and began attaching the mainmast sails. Have yet to attach the bottom sails on both masts since I am thinking I may furl them.
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Here is an interesting question maybe someone knows the answer too. I have tried Google and other sources but can’t find a good answer. What uniform did the crewman on the Cutty Sark wear? I enjoy painting the little crewman characters that come with the kits. Give me a fine tip brush and lighted magnification lens and I am good to go for a few hours. When I recently built the USS Constitution I was able to research military uniforms (Navy and Marine) for the area and easily found color pictures I could refer to. I know the Cutty Sark was a civilian ship with a crew of around 25-30 civilian crewman. Need color references if anyone has an idea.
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