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New to ship modelling? But what do you build first?
ubjs replied to MSW's topic in Wood ship model kits
I have the Norwegian Pram (because it's a Norwegian boat) and I don't think it suits everyone. It is small and the wood material, I don't know what it is, something between balsa and linden. Fragile material that I don't like to work with anyway. Maybe it's linden but of a soft kind? The parts are also very thin. Probably depends on who you are, probably fits well for small hands. The wood material in the Occre Polaris is the same as in their larger ships. If I were to choose a dory as a start, I would buy one from Bluejacket, it is in any case something to take in and you get big, nice drawings. -
New to ship modelling? But what do you build first?
ubjs replied to MSW's topic in Wood ship model kits
I really like this one. A fast way to search build logs here is to use the web browser and write modelshipworld polaris build log. -
New to ship modelling? But what do you build first?
ubjs replied to MSW's topic in Wood ship model kits
Over 200 euros for this one, but I think it's a lot of boat for the money. Good materials and construction. Maybe the best choice as a beginner boat if you can afford it. https://www.krickshop.de/Models/Static-Models/Saucy-Jack-Well-Smack-Bausatz-1-64.htm?shop=krick_e&SessionId=&a=article&ProdNr=25319&p=80 I have built Occre Polaris, the material is ok and the instructions is the best I have seen, got all printed in the box. There is a lot of videos also. But Vanguard is top quality. Another way to think about it is that the first boat is rarely great, so maybe buy cheap and save the money for your second ship. -
New to ship modelling? But what do you build first?
ubjs replied to MSW's topic in Wood ship model kits
No, no! You can buy Model Shipways in America, in Europe they cost a fortune. 90 euros for a dory, that's a joke. The Polaris from Occre is a pure beginner's kit, a real ship for about the same price as a dory from Model Shipways. https://occre.com/en/products/polaris -
New to ship modelling? But what do you build first?
ubjs replied to MSW's topic in Wood ship model kits
JS Elcano is rubbish, the material is bad, the scale is difficult. AL probably has several other good kits, a lot has happened in 40 years. I have their Vasa for example which is not perfect but ok, not a beginner model though. I think Vanguard is good, don't know where in Europe you live but there is a German dealer. https://www.krickshop.de/Models/Static-Models.htm?shop=krick_e&SessionId=&a=catalog&p=80 -
QUICK-FIND INDEXES to BUILD LOGS FOR KITS
ubjs replied to Dan Vadas's topic in - Index of all kits by brand and subject
I click on the 1501-1750 pdf and it opens but nothing happens when I try to click on the build that I want to see? It looks like the file is downloaded? -
I think Vanguard could be a good choice. I would like to build a Vanguard model myself but no shop in Sweden sells it. After Brexit its difficult to get anything from UK.
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Here you could download instructions and plans. https://www.billingboats.com/index.php/modelboats-footer/79/120/boats/the-expert/P-bb5005-danmark My build is on hold. I have just taken up Santisima Trinidad, cross section. Because I always get problem with firewall when trying to upload pictures on this forum I now write my building log on Ships of Scale.
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I think the question is interesting. Sometimes you see models of old boats that look as if they were built with fiberglass hulls without the slightest joint between the boards. So it all depends on what the role model looks like, right? So the advice is to try to look at real boats, preferably in real life, but you can find most things online. If you now want to build a model of what a boat might look like in reality. I have noticed that many build ships according to other criteria, and nothing wrong with that, of course everyone must be allowed to decide on their own model and build as they wish.
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Beginner looking for advice on first kit
ubjs replied to O-Nurse's topic in New member Introductions
I think Occre Polaris is a good beginner kit. A good build log: -
Could Occre or Artesania Latina be something? I like the larger scale (1:45 and 1:48), maybe easier to fix things in the larger scale?
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There is a list of everything included in the kit. Under Plans and instructions is only Instruction manual listed. So, I was so disappointed. For me, drawing is important. I think Blue Jacket's drawings are very nice. If you make a kit, you have to make a drawing, right? Then you might as well insert it into the instruction sheet and just ignore stapling it together and the problem is solved?
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Just received a model from Model Shipways, Norwegian Sailing Pram. Since I'm Swedish, I thought it sounded interesting with a Norwegian boat. I have now checked the contents and there is no drawing! This is supposed to be a beginner's kit but I'm going to build blind without an option to take measurements??? I am so disappointed, never again a boat from Model Shipways. Amati, Blue Jacket and even Billing Boats always have drawings in their kits. With this, I want to warn everyone about these kits. Of course, they have saved the cost of the drawing. A blueprint costs $30 and must be ordered from another company in the United States. Forget it! I intend to check with the Maritime History Museum in Stockholm.
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In another thread here on the forum, I wrote that I thought you couldn't buy Model Shipway kits in Sweden. It was wrong, they are available at a shop in Luleå, https://www.modellhobby.se/sv/334-fartyg-skeppsbyggsatser?fäyskarare=model-shipways The prices are quite high, but that is probably primarily due to a weak Swedish krona. For example, the beginner's set with three ships costs about 250 euros. Maybe not that many people here are affected by this, but right must be right.
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Here is the bottom part and where it came from. Maybe I can use this to get it perpendicular. I'll find a square hook and some Lego pieces.
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Thanks Jaeger, I'll try what you suggest, I'm stuck with this step and somewhere you reach a limit where you have to make drastic decisions. Keith, I already cut all the parts apart with a knife. Thought that was what I wrote but my English is not perfect so I use google translate.
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Yes, coming up with some good solution to a problem is of course satisfying. But I've done a lot of thinking and haven't found any when it comes to this boat. If I can't get any advice from here, I'll throw it away.
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I cut everything off with a knife and think I can at least use the bottom part. The other parts are easy to replace. But I have to try to get some sort of jig to get the fore and aft to line up right. If anyone has suggestions for such a jig, that would be great.
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What I find difficult is getting the stern piece right. It leans on the hull that I started. I think the frames looks ok.
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I can see it's too much and I remember giving up when there was no way to get the other laser cut parts to fit. Unfortunately, it looks like I've used a one component glue on this one. But I don't see any major problem with making new parts, I think I have 1 mm linden at home.
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The problem is that my eye measurement was not good enough and the stern has ended up crooked which makes the whole hull crooked. How do I get it all straight if I start from scratch with new parts?
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