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Hi I have both Billings and DiAgostinis Vasa and the difference is hugh, I think its not right to compare them. DiAgostini-kit price is twice that of Billings, ofcourse the most is better in DiAgostini. I am a beginner myself so I cant tell if all is ok in DiAgostini kit. I think its the same kit you could buy from Artesania Latina https://artesanialatina.net/en/ships-elite/62091-wooden-model-ship-kit-swedish-warship-vasa-1-65-8437021128031.html One thing I like with the 1/65-kit is the basic construction of the ship. Much more stable than Billings. The wood I think is better in the 1/65-kit, its really bad in Billings.
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Good to hear that I´m not alone in my hullbuilding. As someone said, ¨when you buy a kit, you buy a dream¨.
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I should have written a smile beside the statement of simple. I thought about the qualty of the material. But I think that its mostly the size of the build that makes its a experience rate. Otherwise its like every other ship, just more planks, more cannons and a lot of rigging. I´m absolutely still a beginner in this hobby, even if I have built some hulls I have never completed a build. I have built the hulls of Norden, Billing boats, Swedish gun boat, Amati, Spray, Bluejacket, Lilla Dan, Billing boats (my first ship, bought and started 1976!), Phoenix, Master Korabel. Some of them have stopped on a problem in the build and Lilla Dan needs wood that I cant get because Covid. Phoenix is on hold because I need more training in building in wood, it is a very good kit but you must be very precise in building it, no tolerances. Maybe I just like planking a lot. I have now started Vasa because that was the ship I wanted to build from the beginning. Because of the pandemi I think that I maybe not have so much time left and I should use it as good as possible.
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Try to post a picture.
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With two persons in this thread that have built Billings Vasa I try to ask a question about the construction in the beginning. Billings suggest that I shall glue two lists 4x8 mm between frames 4 - 13. If I do so I have to force the lists approx 15 mm down on the frame in the middle. I dont like that to bend it so much, did you do that and how ? Or did you do it another way? I have glued all the frames to the keel.
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Luckily I bought an old Vasa-kit for 50 euro at a market, so I can replace the unusable parts. The old things were not lasercut but straight and of better quality than in the new kit, says a lot I think. I also like Master Korabel and now I understand what a big difference it is between different manufacturers. I have at least 10 Billing kits on the shelf, no one to blaim but myself. But they are cheap so if I buy new good wood I think I could make boats of them.
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Yes, maybe I shall throw everything in this box away. Really bad material, even if i only payed 400 I think its worth 100. Thats the worst thing about kits, the material is really bad. Maybe its a european thing, no one sells US kits in Sweden, apart från Eskader who sells Bluejacket, and what a difference compared to Billing boats.
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After reading the answers here, I have to ask if I break any rule if I do not build the model in the ¨correct¨ way? I was going to start a construction log, but now I doubt if this is the right forum.
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Billings Vasa is a fairly simple model, for example, the sculptures are greatly simplified. After I bought it, there was a much better one in scale 1:65 which I also bought. So my idea is to put Billings together first and then make a smaller effort. One thing I have thought of myself is to either simplify the rigging or to build the model with masts cut 5 cm above the deck. Thought there might be more ideas on what can be made easier.
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I'm thinking about how to most easily build this model, Vasa from Billing boats. Here on the forum, there are a lot of great constructions where the builders have probably spent hundreds of hours on their models. But I want to build the model in a simpler way, I just want something that looks ok for someone who is not a specialist in ship models. I am looking for tips on how I can simplify construction.
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NEW Vasa kit from Artesania Latina -- looks to be quite good
ubjs replied to md1400cs's topic in Wood ship model kits
I think its the same kit former sold by d´Agostini. I have it och think it looks the same. -
Newer to Model Building, requesting assistance.
ubjs replied to histprof1066's topic in Wood ship model kits
Billing boats Wasa nr 440 is an old kit in a smaller scale than the kit Billings sell now. I think the scale is something like 1:115. -
There seems to be a lot of kits that one could recommend to beginners if they only had better construction descriptions. I'm wondering if it's ok to write a construction description for a kit and post it online? Or do you do something illegal then?
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It is of course positive that there are so many nice buildinglogs here to be inspired by. But as a beginner, you probably have to accept that the first boats will be far from perfect. Maybe you should lower the requirements for your first boats and build them with a little less detail and above all simplify the rigging. I think it would be good if there were suggestions in the instructions for things that can be simplified or even excluded. I myself am a beginner, have so far put together some hulls but have not finished building any boat. Currently working on Master Korabel Polotsk and am impressed by the instructions and precision, but it is not a suitable first kit really. Maybe suitable as second build?
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Index for building logs gone?
ubjs replied to ubjs's topic in How to use the MSW forum - **NO MODELING CONTENT**
OK, can I get only building logs? I got a of forum posts. -
Where is the index for building logs?
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Enköping harbor by ubjs - a model railroad module in 1:45
ubjs replied to ubjs's topic in Non-ship/categorised builds
Here is a picture of one wall I have built. I use 2 mm thick balsa wood and cut in a little Proxxon saw. I glue the strips to cardboard and I shall make doors in plastic strips from Evergreen. The houses will be quite large so I will have to find out a way to transport them with the walls separated. Maybe I´ll use Lego pieces or magnets to hold them together at meetings.
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Enköping harbor by ubjs - a model railroad module in 1:45
ubjs replied to ubjs's topic in Non-ship/categorised builds
This is a picture of the modules from the first modular meeting I used them. The warehouses shall stand between the tracks and the water area will be at the bottom along with the whole module, 640 cm. I´m now working on the warehouses and a ship model of a cargo ship, Vega. I have a modelkit of Vega but in scale 1:35, I will have to make one from scratch in correct scale.
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Enköping is a small city in Sweden ca 80 km from Stockholm. The harbor is also small and that makes it perfect for building a model railroad module of it. I build in scale 1:45, called 0-scale in model railroading and the module shall have a bit of the waterarea with several model ships. I found this photo, https://digitaltmuseum.se/011014537633/enkoping-hamnen-gamla-hamnmagasinen-maj-1957/media?slide=0, and it inspired me to the build. Three of the oldest port warehouses still exists, this is one of them.
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Yes, I must fair more. There is much about Billing boats that not is good but one thing I like is that they have most of their drawings and plans one their website to download. If someone want to follow the build more in detail you could look at the drawing. One thing is that the foredeck goes a bit over the deck in the middle and will be difficult to work with when you have clued the foredeck.
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Yes, I have a plank bender, I will try it. Another question, plank the deck or the hull first? This ships hull shall be painted white, maybe its better to do the deck first?
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Hello I use Google translate so excuse if the translation gets weird. Here I was going to write about the construction of Billing boats Denmark. I have tried to build several boats before but either I get stuck in some problem or I lose interest. This time around, I have the goal of just building on whatever happens. I do not have the ambition that it will be something fantastic but just ok. One thing I have trouble with is bending the 2 mm thick plywood that sits at the top of the sides of the boat. I have already managed to break such a part when I tried to bend it over steaming water. Should it be soaked and if so how long? So far I have come. Only the deck in the middle is glued, the rear deck is only fixed with a few screws. Here is a small problem, the deck goes 3 mm outside the frame. The plywood to be glued is only 2 mm.
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I have ordered the kit and will start a construction log when I get it home.
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Here is a link https://www.amazon.co.uk/MINI-MAMOLI-GENZIANELLA-MINIMAMOLI-DUS_MM62/dp/B073XQTZ69 I havent found any building log or pictures of the kit other than Mamolis.
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Hi Is it possible to do something good with that kit, Genzianella?
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