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Working on the steering gear, etc. The canoe has a wooden pedal-steering unit, with lines that run back through the cockpit to the rudder horns. Also, the daggerboard is made, sheer trim in place, and a perfectly sized brass grommet for the mast hole. The full-size is progressing well, too. Building the model has sure streamlined the process for full-size, but quite the difference in time, cost, and material quality though!
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Picked some colors for the canoe-- sort of mirroring the colors on the cover of the book, but still off-the-shelf colors. The brightwork of the coaming, floorboards and stems is redwood. A little trim will clean up the sides/deck joint. I'm also building this canoe full-size. I'm using marine plywood instead of solid planking as spec'd in the instructions.
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Thank you for posting these-- that's quite a beautiful book. I've made a Perissoire model from the book below-- from ca. 1944; I'll probably build one full-size at some point. Thank you also for the mention of that museum-- hope to visit someday. Best, H-
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Some more progress: I carved the curved deck beams that fit to the frame molds. The middle one will have stub beams to support the coaming's inner carlins, as it is in the middle of the cockpit. Also glued up the centerboard trunk and cut the slot in the hull. I didn't get a photo of the carlins in place, but you can see them below adjacent the cockpit; the deck is in place! The Swede-form hull is very evident in these pictures. Mostly done, but a lot of little things to add . . .
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Thank you again, Eberhardt. That book looks pretty interesting, sort of along the lines of "The Boy Mechanic" series popular here in the early 1900s. I look forward to seeing your Neptune article-- are the 'kayaks' of the Perissoire form? (Those are another boat type of interest to me). Folbot made both folding and non-folding kayaks as well as kits. Of course, any kayak or canoe is a folding type if one puts in the effort. . . .
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There were quite a number of folding kayak companies in Germany back then-- Klepper is one that is still around; I think Nautiraid in France goes way back, too, but not as old as Klepper (1911?). I think Folbot might be English in origin, but it moved to the U.S. at some point. Here's a link to a German folding canoe/kayak site . . . gives a hint at just how popular these were: http://www.faltbootbasteln.de Recreational paddling in the West has an interesting history, I suppose starting with John MacGregor and his immensely popular "Rob Roy" canoeing adventures, as well as the travels of Nathaniel Bishop. The emerging middle class, the concept of week-ends, outdoor health, light weight portable vessels (to build or buy), gave many the chance to captain their own yacht. Indigenous designs from North America were quite influential to this movement.
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Thank you Wefalck-- I couldn't remember the name of it. I'd love to know the title of the book you mention, as it doesn't sound familiar. Best, Harvey
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I've had this book on the shelf for years, and was finally inspired to make a model of the canoe featured in it. The book, which is un-dated, comes with fold-out plans and complete instructions. I'm building it in 3/4"=1' scale, from paper and wood. First. . . the book: The canoe has a lugsail, and perhaps a little pretentiously, a forestay and shrouds. A daggerboard is used, along with a foot-steered rudder. I can't read or speak German, but fortunately, Google translate makes quick work of the text, so there won't be any issues there . . . The hull is markedly Swede-form, and has slab sides and a flat bottom. Just five molds/frames are used to build the boat. Lofting doesn't get much easier than this. I inked it right on the paper that will be the hull-- the paper is about 1/16" thick, is dense pressed, and has a very polished finish. . . anyone know what this paper is called? (I get it at the local artists' 'scrap' store.) After cutting out the panels, I glued up the five frames onto the floor panel. With this dry, I glued the side panels onto the frames, bending the bottom up at the ends so it's edges mates flush with the curve (rocker) of the side-pieces. Hmmm . . . I'm almost done!
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Paper on the carronades from US Navy schooner Shark 1821
Harvey Golden replied to bruce d's topic in Nautical/Naval History
Thank you for posting. Towards the bottom of the link is a photo of their exhibit at the Columbia River Maritime Museum, Astoria, Oregon. https://www.crmm.org/current-exhibits.html -
Line drawing and art - Willem van de Velde son
Harvey Golden replied to Aa-schipper's topic in Nautical/Naval History
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Dugout canoe build
Harvey Golden replied to reklein's topic in NAUTICAL RESEARCH GUILD - News & Information
Here's a "D" Adze-- a small hand adze commonly used historically on the Pacific Northwest Coast. I've no idea how widespread this form is, but it's superb for close controlled detail work. This example is a late 20th C. example with a large steel file blade; handle is probably Alder or W. Maple. The historic image shows on on the PNW coast used to dress a canoe hull. -
Dugout canoe build
Harvey Golden replied to reklein's topic in NAUTICAL RESEARCH GUILD - News & Information
I've used an adze a bit, and while I never came close to whacking myself with it, when one sets it down, the edge and a corner are upright, so naturally . . . I've stepped on one, with bare-feet, alas(!) Quite the trail of blood . . . -
Dugout canoe build
Harvey Golden replied to reklein's topic in NAUTICAL RESEARCH GUILD - News & Information
I think any culture that made boards from trees or did any hollowing of wood probably used adzes-- at least till they were replaced by planes and metal gouges/hollowing drawknives. With regards to Alaska, Iron (of terrestrial origin) had been traded across the Bering Straits as far back as 2,000 years ago. Any metal-fastened parts of shipwrecks that drifted ashore would've been put to good use as tools/weapons. The oceans sort of provided a pre-contact globalization of certain materials. -
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Harvey Golden replied to reklein's topic in NAUTICAL RESEARCH GUILD - News & Information
I can't speak to the relation/differences, but I believe each group (Haida/Tlingit) had several types of canoes each, used for different purposes/environments. The forms varied, but the general technology behind their creation was probably very similar. The book above covers all this in great detail as well as presents information on forms long extinct. -
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Harvey Golden replied to reklein's topic in NAUTICAL RESEARCH GUILD - News & Information
Thanks for posting this Bill! Here's a link about the project: https://www.nationalparkstraveler.org/2016/02/traditional-tlingit-dugout-canoe-being-carved-sitka-national-historical-park The NPS is doing updates just on FB so far, but no doubt on-the-water/completed pics will trickle out elsewhere in time. BTW, this superb book recently became available, written by two of the most capable scholars on the subject: -
To Jaager's list, I'd add these two volumes by Harry Sucher: "Simplified Boatbuilding: The Flat-Bottom Boat" (1973), and "Simplified Boatbuilding: The V-Bottom Boat" (1973 & 1974)-- both geared for chined craft, as their subtitles suggest. Each is a building manual with regional nuances highlighted (mostly U.S.) and each features numerous scale drawings of many types. Ed Monk's books are superb, and also Sam Rabl's "Boatbuilding in your own Backyard" (1947) would be helpful. (As an aside, I hope I'm not the only one who thinks a large bibliographical resource on boats, models, ships, etc. would be a nice thing to have here... I'd be willing to help with this.)
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This is an area of interest of mine, too. I've sort of backed into model building having come from a few full-size (albeit small) projects; Period books (and historical retrospects) covering full-size boat building may be the best source of information for craft of this period/genre. Books on models will certainly help with many aspects of scale, approach, fittings, etc., especially if you are building solid-hulls. Best, Harvey
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Was Howard I. Chapelle Controversial
Harvey Golden replied to SaltyNinja's topic in Nautical/Naval History
Controversies are good to explore, but we might also ask what the historic record would look like without his contributions. I certainly have issues with some of his work, yet am glad he did the work. Harvey -
No expert on this, but I'd refer you to the trove of photographic resources at https://www.navsource.org . Briefly, most seem to have been greatly reduced in size and the 3-d effect was done away with (and brought back after the war). You'll also find that it seems to have varied greatly by type/time as to the size of the numbers. I don't believe they were obscured, based on what i've seen on Navsource, and the numbers (and letters when present) were white No doubt others here know much much more. Harvey
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Not sure if this is of any help: (Sourced from https://www.shipcamouflage.com/usn_cve.htm) They also show the Gambier Bay's scheme. (The ocean gray on the model's color chart looks a little dark.)
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Hello Ian, Yes, Cole's book is on the shelf here, thank you! I'm sort of new 'round these parts, but if you click on my name, it might lead to pics of my models. . . . they're a very random assortment(!) All the best, Harvey
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Welcome! I'm a big fan of West Coast fish boats, and have scratch-modeled a few (mostly Columbia River types). Look forward to seeing your projects! Best, Harvey
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