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Coca by Foremast - Amati -1:60
Waldemar replied to Foremast's topic in - Kit subjects built Up to and including 1500 AD
Alex, I must confess that the solution you have described above is my favourite: a) it is compatible with the KISS principle (Keep It SSimple) and b) contemporary evidence, c) seems to be geometrically practical, d) still leaves enough space for possible companionways, cabins or cooking facilities in the sterncastle at the ship's sides and e) may be quite comfortably applied to the actual model as well – it requires only a small hole in the halfdeck for passing the main halyard, close to its forward edge, and possibly shortening the rudder’s tiller. More, it gives the freedom to make another important choice: namely, to install a mizzenmast on the halfdeck or – alternatively – a small capstan in its place, just for light-duty tasks such as bracing the (main)yard or cargo lifting. And I am very curious about your preferences in this matter too. -
Coca by Foremast - Amati -1:60
Waldemar replied to Foremast's topic in - Kit subjects built Up to and including 1500 AD
True. And, as so many Mataro model researchers unfortunately have not convincingly resolved these issues so far, now it is your turn to make it right, maybe for the first time. Please go ahead with your concepts. -
Coca by Foremast - Amati -1:60
Waldemar replied to Foremast's topic in - Kit subjects built Up to and including 1500 AD
Many thanks for your explanations. Alex, the part you have encircled in red – knighthead, was drawn indeed by Heinrich Winter in his plans of the Mataro model. It was also drawn by Björn Landström in his reconstruction drawing, as can be seen below. Yet – strangely enough – there is no such element on the photographs of the original model. A lost part? Or maybe just over-interpretation? I do not know. Perhaps some of you can resolve this issue. (Coloured) reconstruction drawing of the Mataro model by Björn Landström A photograph taken lately by MSW member. No knighthead visible. One more point. If it is assumed that the proportions of the model (and some of its fittings) are not quite to scale, the same may be true for the length of the tiller. In other words, it may be simply oversized (or not proportionately scaled to the model's length). Also, the very lack of many vital devices (such as pumps, winding gear, cooking facilities) suggests that the builder was not aiming at the perfect accuracy or realism. Alex, I can only hope that all these questions do not bother you. Just looking for a solution, both workable in practice and conforming to contemporary evidence. And that’s why your log may be of great help. P.S. Although the term „coca” is very similar to „cog”, it is also regarded by many as an equivalent of „carrack”. -
Coca by Foremast - Amati -1:60
Waldemar replied to Foremast's topic in - Kit subjects built Up to and including 1500 AD
Agree. This model's extreme proportions are certainly the source of such constraints and hence – difficult choices. This is why I am trying to consult these matters with other builders of this very ship and to see their effort's results as well (I am building my „copy” of the Mataro model too, plank-on-frame fashion, somewhat stylized, hull already accomplished). Eventually it is quite probable that I will apply your solutions to these baffling dilemmas... -
Coca by Foremast - Amati -1:60
Waldemar replied to Foremast's topic in - Kit subjects built Up to and including 1500 AD
As to the winding gear, there are also some other, tempting possibilities: mounting a capstan or a windlass on the main deck behind the mast, ie. at one level with hawse holes and the forecastle crossbeam (riding bitts). These are shown below on the attached pictures. This way just one device could serve all needs. What do you think of it? Sandro Botticelli, The Punishment of Korah and the Stoning of Moses Part of the reconstruction drawing of the Santa Maria by J. Serrano (note also a pump close to the mainmast) -
Coca by Foremast - Amati -1:60
Waldemar replied to Foremast's topic in - Kit subjects built Up to and including 1500 AD
I like your solution of a windlass in the forecastle. This is not in accord with its placement in the Bremen Cog (and some other contemporary cog finds), but – on the other hand – it seems very typical for the most, if not all, „slightly” later ships. This way, the windlass on your model would operate the anchors only, and the capstan mounted on halfdeck behind the mast would be dedicated to lifting cargo, hoisting the yard and perhaps to bracing this yard too. Is this correct? Logical I would say. -
Coca by Foremast - Amati -1:60
Waldemar replied to Foremast's topic in - Kit subjects built Up to and including 1500 AD
Your ship’s getting cool with the new planking. Nice effect of the „Catalan national” wood colours. Most eagerly waiting for your choices regarding the internal fitting’s layout: position, shape and number of windlass(es), capstan(s), pump(s), companionway(s), stairway(s)/ladder(s), anchor(s) and its handling/fastening, mast(s), all the Mediterranean rigging, perhaps some invigorating flags here and there. Are you going to make lavatory holes in the sterncastle overhang, as can be seen on the Bremen Cog? -
Coca by Foremast - Amati -1:60
Waldemar replied to Foremast's topic in - Kit subjects built Up to and including 1500 AD
Lovely hull shape, almost sexy… Perhaps you know, but just in case – besides Heinrich Winter’s very close plans of the real model-ship, there is also an interesting attempt at its reconstruction by Portia Takakjian (Model Shipwright 72, 1990, pp. 4–14). Maybe worth a look too. Looking forward for the next stages… -
Coca by Foremast - Amati -1:60
Waldemar replied to Foremast's topic in - Kit subjects built Up to and including 1500 AD
Thank you for this log. I love this ship. Go on... Especially curious of your planned improvement to the ship's construction and layout. -
Coca by Foremast - Amati -1:60
Waldemar replied to Foremast's topic in - Kit subjects built Up to and including 1500 AD
Thank you for this log and go on... Especially curious of your planned improvement to the ship's construction and layout.
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