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Due to the only one possible place for the fish-davit and its aperture, the fore gun ports had to be rearranged. Many other rigging-related fixtures, although inconspicuous in the images, were also made: kevels, pinrails, fixed blocks. In this type of reconstruction, at least 90% of the drawing time is consumed by various changes, corrections and fine-tuning.
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Maybe so, but gold painting this nearly four-foot beast was a real horror show. Everything around became solar 🙂.
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Hello Johnny, Many thanks for this log, as for some reason I also have a weakness for ancient Egyptian ships. I once made a simple block model of a solar barge myself, which I gave to my sister. If time permits, I will still try to build an Egyptian boat one day in the way you do.
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Many thanks Peter for your kind words. I took a break from drawing for a while. So no new elements, just playing with the Navy Board style for this model. Perhaps you will like it too. On the 3D model everything is tidy, but in reality the look of the framing would be closer to a mess. Note the removable part of the waistcloth frame close to the main hatch in the waist, making it easier to board the vessel.
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These two ships you mention are from two different worlds. Again, simplifying somewhat, but to start somewhere: almost exactly in the middle of the 17th century there was a radical change in tactical doctrine, with shifting from boarding and small arms distance fight to gunnery duels (the First Anglo-Dutch War), and this affected not only the ships' design, but also the crew proportions, with sailors and gunners gradually taking over the infantry numbers on board. While building „Papegojan” of 1627 make sure there is enough room on board to live and fight for a squad of 60 infantrymen, besides 48 sailors. And this is a very small ship of only about 270 tons and the length of 86 feet. In my reconstruction she would have overloop (principal deck) serving both as a platform for the main battery and living quarters for the crew, and unbroken upper/weather deck for handling the ship and fighting infantry (very light, mostly gratings; it is called bovenet in the ship's inventory). In other words, the large body of infantry must have a place to fight, otherwise it would be useless. And no forecastle, to not make the ship unnecessarily top-heavy and leewardly. In the 1627 campaign the "Papegojan" served as supply ship and according to the ordnance inventory carried only four light guns (bronze 3-pdrs) instead of the usual a dozen or so. The frigates of the second half of the century are somewhat different proposition, but I do not know the frigate "Berlin" to make any reasonable comments.
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Simplifying somewhat, the forecastle was an asset on merchant ships, but could be a nuisance on men-of-war in wartime, especially during battle. Its bulkhead took up available space (for artillery) and blocked the free movement of the crew. Due to the heavy loads (guns) above the waterline, as opposed to the merchant cargo held below in the hold, it was also desired to lower the gravity centre of of the whole as much as possible by removing it, if a merchant ship was pressed into the naval service. It had some advantages though. It made the ship drier in rough seas and was useful while defending the ship against entering party.
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Many thanks Petr for the compliments and your very rational question as well. While it is true that many, or even most ships of the time are depicted as having a fore deck, there are still many examples of warships without one. I have selected for you a number of samples: – contracts for the building (1613) and rebuilding (1630) of the Danish warship 'Fides' (builder: Dutchman Peter Michelsen), in which all decks are listed, but the fore deck is not mentioned; – contract and draught of the Danish warship „Hummeren” (designer and builder: Scotsman David Balfour), built 1623–1625 (the run of the decks highlighted with red lines by me); Hummeren 1625 – portrait of a Dutch ship of about 1620 by Cornelis Verbeeck, which may be interpreted as having no forecastle; Dutch ship of about 1620 – case of the Dutch-built VOC ship „Prins Willem” built 1649–1650, with her fore deck removed upon pressing for naval service (it seems quite typical procedure in such circumstances); – depiction of a Dutch warship by Experiens Sillemans (1611–1653); Dutch warship of about the middle of the 17th cent. – 17th cent. model of the Swedish warship „Amarant” built 1653; Amarant 1653 – a number of van de Velde drawings of Dutch frigates of about the middle of the 17th cent. Wulpenburg 1659 Harderwijk 1659 unidentified frigate of the Amsterdam Admiralty 1665 So, given a choice - with or without a fore deck, first of all I had taken into account the extremely narrow hull of the reconstructed ship.
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Thank you Scrubby. Yes, once the formalities are settled, which should be soon, the first model will be built in wood. But first the general concept of the ship's reconstruction, so different in some important aspects from the existing ones, has to be accepted by the investor (museum). In any case, I will try to show further progress as far as possible, be it a 3D or a wooden model.
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... forgot to mention both realistic and attractive shapes.
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A lovely finish, natural, 'everlasting' materials (if properly cared for) and a visible structure. This is my favourite way 🙂.
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Many thanks guys for the likes and comments... In the quest for speed and weatherliness, the ship was designed with extremely narrow proportions for a warship. The length-to-width ratio is as high as 4,62:1. If highly built with extensive upperworks or multiple decks, she could have capsized, as happened to the 'Vasa' for precisely this reason. Fortunately, the king did not interfere with the ship's design in this case.
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