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With the exception of the lion and perhaps a few other fellows, the beakhead can be considered finished.
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In those days, only a few ships could match the 'Vasa' in terms of the number of carvings, such as the Danish 'Tre Kroner', the English 'Prince' and 'Sovereign of the Seas' or the French 'La Couronne'. These were all exceptional ships built for show. All the rest, the workhorses of the fleet, were much more modest in this respect. And this ship is such a workhorse for day-to-day duties. There are quite a few shipwrecks relevant to this project. Many of them are well known, except perhaps the Swedish 'Solen', a ship that was sunk in the same battle in which the 'Saint George' participated. Lots of extremely useful material from this site. We still hope to find the remains of the "Saint George" in the river.
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Thank you very much Scrubby. Well, yes and no. Only scanty data on the actual ship survives (but happily more on other ships of the fleet). There is, however, abundant material when it comes to background information. Archaeological, iconographic and written sources were used for this reconstruction: Venetian, Portuguese, Spanish, French, Dutch, English, Danish and Swedish. All of these proved useful. As a result, the ship can be considered a more or less typical man-of-war of the Baltic area.
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Ye dredded reer ormanents stryke yette agayn (making forum server down for two days). In the meantime... ... the final lines of the stern taking shape. I have modified the internal structure slightly (not shown here) in order to lay a row of planks under balcony lengthwise rather than across as was originally intended.
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Thank you, Druxey. So the matter is finally settled by the two top experts showing up in this log. A word of appreciation is also due to the artists of the day for their realism.
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Modellers won't be happy. Each bracket has a different curvature, as - in fact - all parts of the balcony do.
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I C O N I C S H I P and incomparable shots! Many thanks for this. I think I saw Fred Hocker too, top expert on this vessel and period shipbuilding generally.
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Time for the stern gallery. In progress. The iconography suggests that only the two largest ships had balconies and other vessels had none.
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Okay, so I'm waiting for your coming back.
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In a way I envy such a fast, smoothly running project. Mine has been going for many long months now....
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A small beauty emerges... I wonder how this little ship would maintain lateral stability afloat....
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Thank you for this comment Lieste. To make the matter hopefully simpler, I have already prepared a graphic for my soon-to-be-published paper on the fleet's artillery. Shown here are the most typical samples mentioned in both extant inventories. In black are cast- and wrought-iron guns, and in bronze are, of course, bronze guns 🙂. All drawings are based on real surviving artillery pieces. Most interesting are surely assault/hail-shot type guns. They could be large or small, carriage or swivel, bronze or iron (be it cast- or wrought-iron), chambered or not, muzzle- or breech-loaded, conical or cylindrical bored. Larger specimens would be referred to in English as cannon-perriers. As an aside, four large (meaning carriage) Polish bronze assault/hail-shot guns such as depicted below, called at the time „stone guns”, because they used before to shoot stone missiles, were issued to the 'Vasa' in 1628.
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Thanks. Lovely shapes are what matter...
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Hello. Maybe little, but promising project and I feel I will like it. What kind of wood have you chosen for the hull?
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To further complicate the supply issue, iron guns burst in action at a rather surprising rate. In two encounters five iron guns were irretrievably lost in this way.
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Sorry. Below the English translation: The ship "Saint George" 1 bronze quarter-piece shooting iron ball of 9 pounds 10 bronze pieces shooting ball of 3 pounds 2 bronze hail-shot guns (for langridge type ammunition, most probably with conical bores) 2 bronze falconets (they were usually put in the ship's boats) 1 iron piece shooting ball of 9 pounds 11 iron pieces each shooting ball of 6 pounds 2 iron hail-shot guns Total of the bronze and iron guns – 29 Missing – 7 guns Where the calibre is given, it refers to long-guns (all muzzle-loaders). Hail-shot guns had probably conical bores and could be both muzzle- and breech-loaders.
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Right. It is hard to say at all of a specific gun establishment for the fleet. Myriad of types and calibres actually carried on ships proves that anything available was taken on board. From another, slightly later fleet inventory it is clear that most of the bronze guns delivered to the fleet were Swedish trophies, and – conversely – iron guns could not be delivered in sufficient numbers as the supply routes from the country interior were blockaded by the Swedish forces.
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Mark: Even worse – war logistics. There were simply not enough guns at hand to fully supply the fleet. The ships themselves, modest in size, were good sailors indeed. In contrast to the "Vasa", which in fact was an experiment, both over-heavily built and ill proportioned for its two-deck layout (too narrow). Lieste: Below is an abstract from the fleet inventory for this ship (in German, but I suppose easy to apprehend): Daß Schüff Sanct Gérgen 1 Metallen quader Stück schüst Kügl von 9 tb eißen 10 Metallen Stück schüsen Kügel zue 3 tb 2 Metallen schrot Stück 2 Metallen Falkonetel 1 Eiseren Stück schüst Kügel von 9 tb 11 Eiserne Stuck schüst Jedtlihes Kügl von 6 tb 2 Eiserne schrot Stück Suma der Metallen undt eiseren Stück 29 Mangelen nah Stück 7 To put it simply – main battery of 6-pdrs, two heavier 9-pdrs as bow guns, and all the rest on the weather deck and on the accompanying boat.
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Almost forgot ... beakhead bulkhead. Not all gun ports were used at one time and the guns were moved from port to port and from side to side. The ship was never fully armed during her service anyway – seven pieces were missing out of the maximum possible number of 36 cannons.
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... done, at least the prototype version.
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