Kevin

lol - i never took it as being sharp i have decided ti start the build on the superstructure, around the smoke stack, lots to do, without the PE kit, and i am enjoying it, today i bought green stuff for the joints,now i need to find the best way of holding PE to the plastic, going to experiment with C/A tonight, i keep reading about Gator grip and various others

Eric look at page two of my log, im at work now so i don't have a lot of photo here, but i think my bulkhead was either inline with the edge of the gun port or slighty further aft, of the whole build, this part is the most difficult, which for me led into the 2nd most difficult was the stern counter providng the top piece is in the right position you could always take some of the thickness of the offending b/head, so it cannot be seen

October 25 1747 Second Battle of Cape Finisterre. 14 British ships of the line under by Rear-Admiral Sir Edward Hawke intercepted a French convoy protected by 8 French ships of the line commanded by Admiral Desherbiers de l'Etenduère. 1796 HMS Santa Margaritta (36), Cptn. Thomas Byam Martin, captured Vengeur (18). 1797 HMS Indefatigable (44), Sir Edward Pellew, captured privateer Hyene (24). 1799 Boats of HMS Surprise (24), Cptn. Edward Hamilton, cut out from Porto Cavallo Hermione (32) which had been handed over to the Spanish by her mutinous crew at La Guira on 22 September 1797. HMS Amaranthe (14) wrecked off Florida 1801 HMS Bonetta (18), Thomas New, wrecked on a shoal east of the Jardines, Cuba. Mr Goarman, 2nd Lt. and officer of the watch, was found guilty of causing the loss by sleeping on watch and for disobeying Capt. New's orders. He was dismissed from the service for ever, lost all his pay and was imprisoned for two years in the Marshalsea. 1804 HMS Georgiana Gun-boat, Lt. Joshua Kneeshaw, grounded on a sand-bank on an ebb tide near Harfleur. She was burnt to avoid capture. 1807 Boats of HMS Herald (20), G. M. Hony, cut out French privateer Caesar (4) anchored under the fortress at Otranto 1810 HMS Calliope (10), John M'Kerlie, captured French privateer Comtesse d'Hambourg (14) off the Dogger Bank 1812 USS United States (52), Cptn. Stephen Decatur, captures HMS Macedonian (38), Cptn. John Surman Carden, about 1,000 miles west of the Canary Islands

the problem is that Trumpeter Bismark has its problems, wrt to the portholes, to clear the manufacture mouldings the portholes on the angles areas of the hull and superstructure do not point exactly in the right direction, they tend to point 90 dec to the fwd aft line, rather than the direction in which they are positioned, this is made worse by the thickness of the plastic it's self, as Channell puts it, some are like wabbit burrows. i am not at present going down the drastic route of cutting them all out as i don't know any one who would notice, the build will never been seen in a show or away from my living room, and i don't believe you could see in a photograph, i also don't have the PE kit at present, may be another two weeks before i can get it, so i want to avoid building to much, only to enhance it later next is i dont know how to spray paint, even though i have a compressor airbrush i may have left the woodies for a while, but a whole new set of skills to learn

LOL - i don't know where to start on this one

lovely work

paul how would you make scale cable runs on a 1/200 are they a pe kit or scratch

October 24 1744 HMS Colchester (50), Cptn. Frederick Cornwall, after striking the sands between Long Sand and Kentish Knock on 21 October. 1779 HMS Proserpine (28) took Alemene. 1793 HMS Thames (32) engaged Uranie, Cptn. Jean-François Tartu (Killed in Action). 1796 HMS Santa Margaritta (36), Cptn. Thomas Byam Martin, captured French privateer Buonaparte (16) 1798 HMS Sirius (36), Cptn. Richard King, captured Dutch Furie (36) and Waakzamheid (26) in the Texel 1799 HMS Orpheus (32), Cptn. William Hills, captured Dutch-India company ships Zeelast (22) and Zeevraght (22) off Togolanda 1804 HMS Conflict Gun-boat (12) Lt. Charles Cutts Ormsby, went aground while engaging an enemy at night, near Newport, Isle of Wight. The crew could not get her off and abandoned her but by the time HMS Griffin came up she had been captured by the French. 1805 Trafalgar prize Indomptable (80) wrecked and Intrépide (74) blown up deliberately after the battle. 1806 Start of 3 day engagement of HMS Pitt (12), Lt. Michael Fitton, which captured French privateer Superbe (14), Cptn. Dominique Diron, off Baracoa. 1808 The Danish fortress at Christiansoe, under Cdr. Kohl, beats off an attack by a British squadron of 2 ships-of-the-line and 6 frigates. 1816 HMS Comus (22), Cptn. James John Bremer, struck a reef off St. Shotts.Newfoundland.

J.Pett good morning I am aware that Big Ed do the PE kit but does not include the wooden deck, Where as the Mk 1 by KA does,

hello everyone This evening is being spent - checking it is all there There is lots of it, all seam very well molded, the bonus pack is a see through gun turret, which apparently makes a very nice stand alone kit, and leaves enough room for some super detailing My intentions are not to run both builds together, just taking a break from the Victory, come Easter, depending where i am on the Bismarck i may swap over Attached Thumbnails

some pictures

should arrive this afternoon

I may be leaving the wood world for a while, but will be continuing to watch your fine work progress and everyone else that i follow , lol please done ignore me in my plastic world, i will be back

just found this http://3dhistory.de/wordpress/3d-models/dkm-bismarck/bismarck-high-res

Paul i am about to start the Trumpeter 1/200 Bismarck, do you have a recommendation for a good ref guide to use the above photo's show some lovely work

October 23 1707 Squadron, under Admiral Sir Clowdsley Shovell, HMS Association (90), Cptn. Edmund Loades (1st. captain) and Cptn. Samuel Whitaker, HMS Eagle (70), Cptn. John Leake, HMS Romney (54), Cptn. William Coney, and HMS Firebrand fireship (8), wrecked on the Scilly Islands. 1762 HMS Brune (32), Cptn. Tobyn, took French frigate Oiseau (26), Chevalier de Mode, off Cartagena. 1777 HMS Augusta (64) and the sloop HMS Merlin, Cdr. Samuel Reeve, took the ground, while attacking American Fort Mifflin, Delaware. Augusta accidentally caught fire and blew up and Merlin was also set on fire and abandoned. 1790 William Bligh court martialled for loss of HMS Bounty. 1804 HMS Conflict (12), Lt. Charles Cutts Ormsby, lost in engagement off Ostend. 1805 Trafalgar prizes Santisima Trinidad (136), Rayo (100), Bucentaure (80), Neptuno (80), L'Aigle (74), Redoutable (74) and San Francisco de Asis (74) wrecked or foundered in a storm after the battle. 1813 HMS Andromache (38), Capt. G. Tobin, captured French frigate Trave (44)

October 22 1793 HMS Agamemnon (64), Cptn. Horatio Nelson, met 5 French frigates and engaged Melpomene (40) before withdrawing. 1794 HMS Centurion (50), Cptn. Osborn, and HMS Diomede (44) engaged and driven off from blockading Mauritius by French squadron Prudente (36), Cybèle (40), Jean Bart (20) and Courier (14). 1805 Trafalgar prizes Berwick (74) and Fougueux (74) wrecked or foundered in a storm after the battle. 1813 HMS Laurestinus (22) wrecked in the West Indies

Good evening everyone The kit is ordered, the Deluxe PE kits is not available in the UK at present, should be another couple of weeks The Victory is safe and secure for a while, and will be finished The Workroom has had a bit of a make over as well, i put a window in at the weekend, at last i have some natural light in there and a different carpet as the one i had, it was impossible to find anything when dropped onto it, research http://www.ipmsstockholm.se/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=2250&start=30 http://www.kbismarck.com/models/ http://3dhistory.de/wordpress/3d-models/dkm-bismarck/bismarck-high-res http://www.shipmodels.info/mws_forum/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=144178 http://www.bismarck-class.dk/shipmodels/shipmodels_menu.html https://www.facebook.com/BismaarckModell148Scale/photos_stream http://www.bismarck-class.dk/shipmodels/shipmodels_menu.html

October 21 1757 Action off Cape Francois. HMS Augusta (60), Commodore. Arthur Forrest, HMS Edinburgh (64) and HMSDreadnought (60), Cptn. Maurice Suckling, intercept, off Cape Francois, a French convoy bound for Europe with an escort, under de Kersaint, of Intrepide (74), Sceptre (74), Opineatre (64), L'Outarde (44), Greenwich (50), Savage(30) and Unicorn (30). 1762 George Rodney promoted Vice-Admiral. 1794 HMS Artois (38), Cptn. Sir Edmund Nagle, captured Revolutionnaire (44), Henri-Alexandre Thèvenard, off Ushant, supported by HMS Arethusa (38), Cptn. Sir Edward Pellew, HMS Diamond (38), Cptn. Sir William Sidney Smith, and HMS Galatea (32), Cptn. Richard Goodwin Keats, . 1797 Launching of USS Constitution at the Charlestown Navy Yard, Boston, Massachusetts. 1805 Battle of Trafalgar/Death of Nelson. Nelson defeats combined Franco-Spanish fleet under Admiral Villeneuve 1806 Boats of HMS Renommee (44), Cptn. Sir Thomas Livingstone, at Colon, Majorca. 1807 16 Danish ships-of-the-line, 15 frigates and corvettes, 14 smaller vessels, together with 92 merchant ships, loaded with naval equipment, leaves Copenhagen, flying the British flag, following the capitulation to the British forces on 6 September. 1811 HMS Grouper Brig (4), James Atkins, wrecked off Guadaloupe.

the lighting from the build will be reduced as time goes on, all the gun ports are going to be busy, with lumps of cannon and riggingand the linings, the hull will be thicker with planking and the gun port lids depending on the angle displayed will reduce the effect even more

thank you

Eric i resize my photo's to 1024x683 (thats a default size within the photo package), i have many photo's of the build process just ask, i will still be following all the logs, Have you had a look at some of the other builds on here - lots of them now

thank you everyone for the comments the intention is to obtain the full PE upgrade kit as a complete set, even though i believe it is more expensive than the kit price (or at ;least about the same) i am still waiting for feedback and prices for supporting UK hobby shop prices before i jump onto obtaining stock from abroad- lol it's the postage that takes a good deal, into one that does not appear to be quite so good the Victory is safe and secure, and i feel very guilty about setting her aside, but thats all i am doing,

October 20 1744 HMS Bonetta (14), HMS Greenwich (54), Cptn. Edward Allen, HMS St. Albans (54), HMS Thunder bomb (8) and HMS Lark hulk (42) foundered off Jamaica during hurricane. 1778 HMS Jupiter (50), Cptn. Francis Reynolds, and HMS Medea (28), Capt. James Montagu, engaged a French ship of the line Triton in the Bay of Biscay. 1793 HMS Crescent (36), Cptn. James Saumarez, engaged French frigate Reunion with a cutter, Esperance (14) in company. Reunion was taken but Esperance escaped into Cherbourg. 1798 HMS Fisgard (44) captured Immorlalite. 1799 HMS Cerberus (32) engaged five Spanish frigates. 1806 HMS Athenienne (64), Cptn. Robert Raynsford, wrecked on the Esquerques, off Sicily. 1808 21 Danish gunboats, under Cptn. Johan C. Krieger, attacks a British convoy in the southern part of the Sound. The convoy consisting of 137 ships is escorted by HMS Africa (64), Cptn. John Barrett, HMS Thunder bomb, James Caulfield, and 2 brigs. Due to lack of wind Africa could not manouvere and was severely damaged. 1813 HMS Achates (16), Isaac Morrison, engaged Trave off Cape Finisterre. 1824 U.S. Schooner Porpoise captures four pirate ships off Cuba. 1827 Battle of Navarino. A combined Turkish and Egyptian armada, under Ibrahim Pasha, was destroyed by an allied British, French, and Russian naval force, under Edward Codrington

Good evening everyone it looks like i am going to put the Victory on hold for a while, im not bored with her or any thing like that, but i fancy a change for a while, and it is not a scratch build either, i don't think my skills are good enough just yet, and i certainly dont seam to get enough time to concentrate on learning all the new skills needed. i have made the decision to go completely the other way, and build the Trumpeter 1/200 Bismark, and hope to have it in the workshop in the next week or so, Please do not banish me from MSW, lol if you do - i will have no one to talk to other than the wife, i know there is one other at the same scale and two larger, and alll look great builds, i would like to share this with you, any one interested?