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An excellent starting point is Roger Smith: "Vanguard of Empire" Oxford Press. Other reference for iconography is: Lillian Ray Martin : "The Art and Archeology of Venetian Ships and Boats" Texas A&M Books Articles by Mauro Bondioli in : "The Book of Michael of Rhodes vol 3" Long, McGee and Stahl eds. MIT Press Of Course The volume in Conways History of the Ship " Cogs Caravels and Galleons" is a very useful starting point as well. Dick
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MDF board also has health risks due to formaldehyde glues and wood fibre. Good ventilation is required as well as face mask and eye protection if sanding or using power tools on it. A good shop vacuum is a wise investment. Here is a relevant link: http://www.wisegeek.com/what-are-the-health-risks-of-mdf.htm Dick
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Before I get too involved with rigging, I have to build the full hull . This is new to me as I have never done a POB model before. Nor have I designed one. I am making this up as I go along. I hope you guys will forgive any egregious errors and make suggestions as I go. Here goes, this is the central bulkhead support with the backbone of the ship
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Thanks, Steven for the pics which will be of interest to many MSW readers. The Reixach carracks seem to be closest to the carrack I am reconstructing. It also shows a sailor ascending ratlines but they are not drawn in. The most realistic depictions of carracks by far are by Carpaccio. I am presently drawing up lines to build a 1:64 POB full hull model. Dick
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Louie, I have been fascinated by the english carracks in the Richard Beaumont drawings. These seem to be sketched from life and show much interesting detail. Some show ratlines and others Jacob's ladders. Thanks for the link. Druxey and Doreltomin. Another reason not to place the ship on a mirror was the fact that it was not symmetrical. the bowsprit (if that's what it was) is shifted to the starboard side of the forecastle (a feature seen in many pictures of the period). Dick
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I did consider a mirror and tried one but, because of the thickness of glass over the silvered layer, it looked like there was a huge gap down the middle of the ship and I gave up on the idea. Besides, there is a venerable tradition of half-hull models and I rather like the way they look. Thank you Louie for the article on Master W A +. This will be very useful. I think Landstrom in his excellent book uses the Mataro nao but lengthens in in the mid section to make it seaworthy. the wooldings on the masts in two of the pictures indicating masts made of several pieces of wood whereas the small nao by W A has a one piece mast. Also noteworthy is that, in the first picture, the yard has been lowered to the deck, presumably it was the way they did a harbour furl. The dragon
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Another thought. Perhaps the ship in drydock is in the process of being planked and the strakes between the main wales are not yet in place. The square blocks could be the underlying frames. :mellow: Dick The rudder is made of several pieces with wooden battens and metal straps reinforcing. Note the curve of the tiller.
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Thanks, Crackers. But if you think the evidence for hull construction is poor, wait till you see what's known about mediaeval rigging!!! I do, however, have a cunning plan to do a full hull with rigging. The half-hull was sort of a proof of concept model. But first I must finish Le Gros Ventre. Dick
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Thanks Druxey, Bob, Vivian and Doreltomin. Great work Vivian on your caravel, keep posting. You raise a good practical point, Druxey. The Mataro nao shows no projecting beams below the waterline, but the Trombetta nave definitely shows this My theory is this: The drawing was done with the ship out of water in drydock. No masts. Whole hull visible The ship may just have had all its outer sheathing removed and awaiting new sheathing. Sheathing was a layer of sacrificial planking over other materials (hair, bitumen tallow, etc) which protected the hull against shipworm This nave was a a largeish size vessel and the projecting beams below the waterline may have been required to prevent torsional problems. the outer sheathing may have helped to caulk the projecting beams and cover them. Alternatively, the dotted area between the wales may not be deck beams at all! If so, what do they represent? There are no known wrecks of venetian round ships from this era so this is all speculation. What do you think? Any other ideas in MSW Land? Dick
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