harvey1847

Hello All and thanks for the coments! Really appreciate all of them...
 
I am still working with the main wale and I´ve started with the gun ports. Pretty tough stuff, measuring, chiseling, trying with one piece repeating again the same piece...
 
I have also make a pdf with the camber of the lower deck beams. I need to Know the space between the floor of the hold and the lower deck beam to start making the bulkheads of the different "rooms". I also need to put all the hooks and breast and mast bases so I´ll be working a lot these days.
 
Richard! I have been doing a "research" looking for good plans for a longboat, but nothing arround is relaible to me. I guess I will have to redraw one plan out of a AOS book or something.
 
here are some pics...
 

 
I use a little mirror just to ensure that the plank is true to the frames.
 

 

 
This was my first attempt. Gun port #8. I did a little bit os surgery cause I did the sarf too low on the upper beam.
 

 

 

 

 

 
Using a square pine stick of wood is "must be". It really helps a lot.
 

 
I used a clamp to avoid damaging the frames while I am sanding the frames. (up or down)
 

 

 
Even with all the "care" one put on sanding there is always gaps, at least on my work. I glued small chips of wood, let´em dry and then trim them with a blade. All of this will be sand of course.
 

 
 
Good luck!
 
 
Daniel.

Hello Hello!
 
Finally something to post on… small progress due to my exam to become a taxi driver (I have failed twice). You can see the Madrid plan on the back. We´ll see the third attempt… fingers cross.
 
I am dealing with the main wale. I cut several planks to its size and length. 150mm divided on 3. 50 + 50 +50. The ends are 3mm and in the middle is 5mm (3) (50) - (5) - (100) (3). The planks are 3mm thick, quite difficult to bend. I soak them on cold water for 24h, then clamp them and let it dried for another day and then glue them with the clamps. By the way I put the shorter length of the plank aiming the stern which I think it´s an error. On AOS boob about the HMS Diana clearly it is seen than is the longest that goes on that way...
 
Here are some pics.
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
 
I am also been thinking. Thinking a lot and reviewing my “research folder” I just found this pic:
 

 
This is a long time project and it is consuming a lot of time. I do not even start to make the beams for the lower deck sooo I´ve decided to “cut” a little bit the project Otherwise I´m not sure if I’ll end this someday!! Beside I do see logs where they are having lots of fun with smaller (but complex) projects. I need to move on. I started this on 2011…
 
Here´s my aim. ->The pic above about the HMS Diana showing one side completed and the other almost “nude”. The portside with all the gun ports open (no guns) the main wale and the planking above it and only three planks under. The starboard with the frames intact and cutting some of them as shown on the picture. I have been always much more interested on the structural issue rather than have a symmetrical and beautiful ship made.
 
Wish me luck. Any comments and suggestions will be appreciated of course.
 
Happy modelling and summer ahead!
 

 
Daniel.

Hello All!
 
It has been a while since my last post and I am in the need to explain why It is taking me so long to post something reliable…
I have lots of “war fronts” open with the Triton, the wales, the gunports, the stern, the inside planking, the limber strake… I´m kind of lost with so many started out things so I have make kinda schedule to be followed (hope so) and erase every single point.
 
The other reason is that I have started seriously the draft of a 74 called “Principe de la Paz” (Prince of the Peace). Is a Spanish ship dated on 1803 from a shipwright called Julian Martin de Retamosa.
 
I supposed that the ship was never built because I have been searching and searching and there´s absolutely nothing about her on the books about taking action in any combat on that period. I have the plan already scanned and it´s real. I mean the draft was real. Another thing is if she was actually built or not. I supposed not.
 
Here´s a tiny pic of the whole plan. The original size is big (5906x1778 - 50x16 cm and weights 18Mb) therefore I´m able to draw on it pretty accuracy.
I think I´ll open a new log as I said to Christian (Anobium) because It´s a whole new project by itself.
 

 
No pics of the Triton by the moment but right now it´s like a volcano because if I follow the schedule she is going to grow up pretty quickly… fingers cross.
 
Best wishes and happy days! oooOH Happy Days!
 
Daniel.

Hello All!
 
Thanks Juergen, Beatiful progress you´re making on the Leopard. I progress slower than you. Are you going to drop the HMS Triton or is it temporary "parked"? It´s the only one "as designed", please don´t do it! (leave it)
 
After the big discover about the number of gunports I have decided to leave it there, glue the ceilings and plank the whole area. I was thinking about planking it anyways.
 
I have been all this morning with gunport no.#1 and I´m pretty sattisfied with the result. It is beveled on both frames aft and fore... quite tricky.
 
Here are the pics! I know there is a lot of them for a single detail but it took me a while and as I said it´s tricky and the plans don´t show it in its complexity. The next days I will sand the wale and paint it. I´ll make some trials with srap wood first, we´ll see...
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
 
Daniel.

Hello All!
 
It has been a while since my last post and I am in the need to explain why It is taking me so long to post something reliable…
I have lots of “war fronts” open with the Triton, the wales, the gunports, the stern, the inside planking, the limber strake… I´m kind of lost with so many started out things so I have make kinda schedule to be followed (hope so) and erase every single point.
 
The other reason is that I have started seriously the draft of a 74 called “Principe de la Paz” (Prince of the Peace). Is a Spanish ship dated on 1803 from a shipwright called Julian Martin de Retamosa.
 
I supposed that the ship was never built because I have been searching and searching and there´s absolutely nothing about her on the books about taking action in any combat on that period. I have the plan already scanned and it´s real. I mean the draft was real. Another thing is if she was actually built or not. I supposed not.
 
Here´s a tiny pic of the whole plan. The original size is big (5906x1778 - 50x16 cm and weights 18Mb) therefore I´m able to draw on it pretty accuracy.
I think I´ll open a new log as I said to Christian (Anobium) because It´s a whole new project by itself.
 

 
No pics of the Triton by the moment but right now it´s like a volcano because if I follow the schedule she is going to grow up pretty quickly… fingers cross.
 
Best wishes and happy days! oooOH Happy Days!
 
Daniel.

Oh how time flies when we're having fun.....
 
Ok.. got the shop back into shipyard mode and I'm working on the gunports.   I have to thin the frames down some (to 1/16" at the ports) so that their wide enough... Done!!!!
 
I then have to put in the sills, paying particular attention to the location at each end of the each sill.  I still check each one.  So far, 6 have been done.   I also check each one with check tool made from some yellowheart.  Actually not made.  Turns out the pen blank I bought as a sample to see what yellowheart looked like was about 1/64" inch too big.  A quick bit of sanding and it's perfect for the job.
 
I'm scratching my head as Hahn made most of his ships in 1:96 and just a few in bigger scales.  How the heck did thin the frames for the ports or get the level of detail he got, I'll never know.
 
Anyway.. the pic.  And like the rest of us, right now I'm hating the macro setting.       
 

Hello All!
 
It has been a while since my last post and I am in the need to explain why It is taking me so long to post something reliable…
I have lots of “war fronts” open with the Triton, the wales, the gunports, the stern, the inside planking, the limber strake… I´m kind of lost with so many started out things so I have make kinda schedule to be followed (hope so) and erase every single point.
 
The other reason is that I have started seriously the draft of a 74 called “Principe de la Paz” (Prince of the Peace). Is a Spanish ship dated on 1803 from a shipwright called Julian Martin de Retamosa.
 
I supposed that the ship was never built because I have been searching and searching and there´s absolutely nothing about her on the books about taking action in any combat on that period. I have the plan already scanned and it´s real. I mean the draft was real. Another thing is if she was actually built or not. I supposed not.
 
Here´s a tiny pic of the whole plan. The original size is big (5906x1778 - 50x16 cm and weights 18Mb) therefore I´m able to draw on it pretty accuracy.
I think I´ll open a new log as I said to Christian (Anobium) because It´s a whole new project by itself.
 

 
No pics of the Triton by the moment but right now it´s like a volcano because if I follow the schedule she is going to grow up pretty quickly… fingers cross.
 
Best wishes and happy days! oooOH Happy Days!
 
Daniel.

Hello friends and thanks to all for visiting, your comments and likes.
 
Hoi Carl, yeah, I know what you mean.  I'm listening to a Dutch music station on the computer and get the news and weather.   I know all about winter weather, cold, rain and snow.  Still dislike it with a passion.  I'm not complaining about a lot of yard work mind you, it beats shoveling snow    It just takes precious time away from the shipyard. 
 
Hi Popeye, thank you for your kind remarks, really appreciate it.  If you like those pics just wait till I make the "official" photographs of her with my big Cannon camera.  I plan to stage them appropriately.   And talking about talent, look who's talking - - - 
 
Hi John, thank you too my friend and yes she's come a long way since you last saw and touched her.  She's almost completed.  Still some more work to be done.  Yep, I like to think that pappa Piet is well pleased.  That's how my mother called him to distinguish him from me, we are namesakes    Enjoy your Leffe, I have to wait till tomorrow, had surgery today 
 
Hi ho Vivian and thank you as well for your compliments.  Did you make the Indo dishes yet??  
 
Hello Daniel, thank you my friend.  Ah yes, the antennas.  Rather unusual on submarines.  But remember that these subs were primarily surface vessels that could submerge for only short periods of time.  Underwater speed was then not much of a concern then.  The last antenna I put on is the Low Frequency transmit antenna and not used much, only to communicate so once in a while to home port for special messages and position reports. Possible enemy ships or planes could home in on the signals with their Direction Finders and cause a heap of trouble for the sub.  That antenna could easily and quickly be unhooked and stowed away.  The antenna mast can be retracted hydraulically into the boat the same as the two periscopes.  The navigation antenna would most likely stay as is.  During the refit in 1943 / 44 in Scotland they removed a lot of drag inducing things, like railings - except the portions next to the conning tower.  The front AA gun was also removed and the torpedo loading gantries.
 
Cheers to all,  

Hello Piet!
 
Congratulations!! I am with Remco I hadn´t realize the high of the antenna and with those cables and specially the last photo She looks like she needs some sort of sails or something...
 
One question, all those cables were sumerged or there was some kind of mechanism to tight them when was underwater? just courious.
 
Congrats again,
 
 
Daniel.

Alan, Cog, I turned the fittings on my lathe, added knurls to finish them off and soldered them to the bars.
 

 
Cabrapente, thats I nice little tool, I prefer to drill all holes manually as this gives far greater control and precision.
 

 
Remco
 

A long overdue update....... I was too busy making decals and flags
 
I planked the port side from the Sheer strake up, this is all the planking I will do on this side except some minor parts I need for the rigging. Next up tree nailing the lot.... 
 

 

 

 
Also made new brass knobs on the clamps, as it turned out the wooden ones didn't hold up after I reenforced the bars with nuts.
 

 
Remco

Thanks all for the kind comments.
 
Alan,I use a pin vise to drill the holes, my dremel is much to aggressive for this type of drilling and the smaller drills do not fit in my other micro motor. Next to that I feel much more comfortable to do this precise work by hand, a powertool will not give the feedback a pin vice does.
 
Ed, Mark, I draw the castello up to the .018 hole, getting at the smaller sizes you really need to be careful not to break the wood. I use 24" strips to get a better yield from the work involved drawing one strip.
 
I also made a minor improvement to my Ed's style clamps as the treaded holes started to wear out pretty quickly in my case. I added square holes and inserted little nuts for strength.
 

 
Remco

Sal, thank you for your kind compliment. An Apprentice? Be careful what you ask for, You 'll be in charge of all the 'fun stuff', you'll be pulling tens of feet of treenails, working hundreds of feet through a rope walk and cut countless blocks to hone your skills. Still interested? Hop on a plane
 
Dave I still prefer castello, although bamboo is easier to pull through a draw plate I dislike the way it looks in its cross section. The fibers stand out more than castello as they are bigger, see this little example. top row light bamboo 0,5 and 0,4 mm bottom row same size castello. I admit with darker bamboo the deference is less but still quite visible with a little magnification
 

 
Remco

Young America - extreme clipper 1853
Part 90 – Main Deck Framing 1
 
Again, many thanks for all the nice comments and "likes."
 
In the first picture, the breast hook between the middle and main decks has been installed and the main deck hook is being fitted.  The main deck is the weather deck aft to the break at the beginning of the poop.  The forward section is covered by the forecastle.
 

 
I made the deck hook in two pieces to save on wood and was not too particular about the way the pieces are joined since this will all be covered by decking and the forecastle.  The side planking treenails in the picture have not been sanded off yet.
 
The first major task on the main deck framing was to make the beams.  The full set is shown in the next picture.
 

 
I have described the method for cutting out these rounded up beams in previous posts.  It is very fast and very accurate.  The set shown were made in less than two hours starting with a 2” thick block of Castelo.  The process, including tools and fixtures, was fully described in Naiad, Vol II.
 
In the next picture the beams have been cut to size, fitted and pinned in place.
 

 
Most of these beams are 15” wide except for those at the mast partners (17”) and those nears the ends (12”).  All are 12” deep.  On the original ship they were hard pine – as were all the beams and much else.  Frames were white oak and most of the knees and hooks white or live oak.
 
The next step was to mark the centerline on each beam.  The next picture shows the last and easiest step in the process that begins with a string line between pins on the stem and sternpost.
 

 
Although this process was done for every deck so far, I was a bit tense about the string line falling equidistant between the outside of the frames at each point.  It is getting a bit late in the day to fix any problems with this.  Misalignments would be very visible on this deck and could create a nightmare when the masts are installed.  The mast partners on the main deck must be plumb with the mast steps on the keel and also come through the center of the deck.  Fortunately, the centerline was well centered with only very minor remediation, so I am now in a more relaxed state.  After a substantial amount of checking, the pencil line drawn above was converted into a permanent scribed line on each beam. 
 
In the next picture the locations of all the carling and header scores are being marked out while the beams are still pinned in place. 
 

 
The distances were marked out from the centerline with dividers.  In the picture a piece of carling stock is being used to mark both sides of the scores.
 
In the next picture the setting of beams has begun at the bow.
 

 
The first very short beam will be secured only with lodging knees.  The hanging knees with their simulated bolts have been installed on the second beam.  The third beam has been glued and pinned to the clamps.
 
In the last picture the third beam - with its hanging knees and pillar - has been installed. 
 

 
The next beam has been glued to the clamps and frames.  All of the scores in the beams are cut at the bench by hand before the beams are set – from the marks made previously.  Carlings are installed progressively after the knees and pillar on each beam.
 
A period of repetitive work will follow.  Most of the time doing this is spent making the hanging knees and fitting them under the beams.  Fortunately, some preparation work in this framing for main deck facilities will break some of the routine.  So, three down, thirty-one to go.
 
Ed

I hadn't realized the FM antenna would be so large...
 
Se sure looks great and ready to sail off
 
Remco

Well folks, one of the last parts have been made and installed on the O19, it's the Low Frequency transmit antenna.  That was a lot of fun to do.  As I was making the parts I changed a few things in the process.  In the end though it looks exactly the same as on the drawings and photos, which makes me very happy.
 
I immagine that this antenna can be removed and stowed when not in use and for submerged sailing.  I tried to do the same but the parts on the antenna mast keep falling off when handling the model so I just made it permanent.  We'll just have to imagine they can be unhooked.  
 
The cradle cables at the bow and stern can be removed though.  I made a few hooks that hook into the eyelets for that purpose.  
 
I'm very happy with how she looks and for all practical purposes she's finished, except for the dingy, the crew and a few spare parts.  I'll keep this log open till the dingy is done and the display board and case are completed and she's on display in my studio.
 
Here are a few pics of today's the work I did on the antenna over the last few days.  I could only devote a few hours a day, too many chores to do.
 

This drawing shows the general layout of the O19.  The Low Frequency antenna is shown at the top of the profile picture.  As I have mentioned before there were a few changes the builder had to make by request of the KM (Royal Navy), which I incorporated in my model.  
 

One of the changes I made was by removing the bracket I soldered to the mast top.  In its place I soldered a small piece of tubing to the mast top.  I attempted to make this thing move up and down via a simulated pulley system and then also with removable hooks that hold the antenna wires.  Thinking about it some more I slapped my forehead and called myself domkop.  This mast can be lowered and raised by the crew unhooking it would be an easy task.   Yeah, I could have made the guides as hooks and drilled holes in that small cross piece but just soldered them in.  Who knows, I may redo this at some other time. 
 

This shows the bridle cable assembly.  I made two, one for the bow and for for the stern (duh  )  The cable is made from two 0.08 pieces of copper wire from a telephone wire and then twisted.  The "trapeze" looking thingy is just a piece of 0.2 mm brass rod with a 0.1 mm brass wire soldered to it, then a small 0.5 brass tube where I soldered everting in.  A few small hooks from 0.2 brass rod.  
 

The bridle cable is hooked into the bow antenna and cable cutter frame.  The bridle is kinda blending in with the low frequency sensing antenna but it runs above it.  The stern picture shows it better.
 

The bow hookup seen from a different angle.
 

This shows the details of the antenna mast.
 

This is a better picture showing the antenna bridle and cable hooked into an eyebolt fastened to the aft deck. The crew escape hatch just misses it.
 

Starboard profile from the stern with the completed antenna installation.  We can also clearly see Remco's decals and flags.  They kept poor Remco from doing much work on his King Fisher   As you can see there is a nice stiff breeze blowing.
 

Starboard profile from the bow with the completed antenna installation.
 
Cheers,

The "Follow" button pressed! I´ll be here aswel learning...
 
Any pics of that laser cut machine. I am very interested on seeing it working. I mean the process. What software you use etc..
 
Best wishes!
 
 
Daniel.

Hi Grant,
I appreciate your kind words.
 
... and so it goes on:
The reinforcement (flat iron) for the supporting knee I made out of brass sheet 0.2 mm.
The support of the channel (round iron bars) was made ​​of brass wire with a diameter of 0.9 mm.
 
The second attempt for a support for the channel can be seen in the picture. This is made of a round brass bar having a diameter of 1.5 mm. This is too massive, unrealistic.

 
In the next step, these pieces are browned and then mounted.

Hi there,

Today I show the construction of channels and chain plates.
Always a sample test on the cross-section.
Here the corresponding detailed drawing:

 

 


Furthermore now the first pictures of construction:

 

 

 


Soon more pictures of the construction of the channels.

Hello,
 
the question relating to the mounting of the gun port lids I could now finally clarify with the help of a forum colleagues.
In the painting of Horace Vernet is clearly at the bottom gun port lid a hook recognizable as such (yellow arrow).

Furthermore, in the Monograph La Creole 1827 by J. Boudriot on page 96 can be found, that the upper lid with 4 hooks has been fixed.

So there were a total of six hooks for attachment to a gun port.
This was implemented by me immediately at the battle station.


In addition, 48 hook with eyelet for the model I have to make.

Hello,
here is a short update:

Hello,
your positive comments are always pleased me.

With other fittings on the outboard walls I want to continue my report.
In addition to various eye bolts with rings were also fittings to customize for the fore-channels.
One of these fittings is used to hook the lower-studding-sail-boom.
The other is for the mooring of the flying-jib-guys.
 
I hope you enjoy the pictures.
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hello,
many thanks für the nice comments.
In between, I will still show you how the portholes of the ventilation hatches are constructed.
The glass body with a diameter of 1.3 mm were punched out with a specially prepared punch pliers from an acrylic glass plate.
Then they were glued with Micro Kristal Klear in a brass tube piece.
The brass tube piece has an outside diameter of 2.5 mm.

 
See you soon ..
 
 

Hello,
  I will continue at the French corvette with the installation of the anchor supports on the larboard side. The anchor was initially placed only temporarily, to see if it fits.
Here I show you two photos:
 

Hello,
today I want to show you how I have made the fittings for the ventilation hatches with portholes.
These vents are located on the lower deck, as can be seen in the following pictures.

 
The other images show step by step the process.