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Quick question. In the old ships copper bolts in the keel were 'clenched' via the ends being walloped with a mallet (hammer) so the ends spread causing the end joint to tighten.

 

Does this mean that the heads would protrude slightly and spread? I have looked at some photos of the Victory and really cannot tell (plus its using a lot of more modern iron fastenings)

 

I am considering doing this on the model as opposed to filing the bolts flush with the surface of the keel but wanted to check how authentic a process/result this would actually be.

 

Looking at measurements at my scale(1:64) the 1 1/8 bolt would be 0.4464 mm wide I am using 24 gauge which is 0.511 undrawn (0.46ish drawn) but may keep the undrawn width as if clenching does spread the  end then the bolt ends would have a larger diameter than the initial starting diameter. It all depends on how far the bolt spread. if a little then I may just use the slightly wider bolt and file down and if more so then try clenching myself.

 

Cheers for any pointers (am I getting a little anal about accuracy on this model, perhaps..)

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Posted

Bolts were clenched over a rove or washer.  This may take place in a countersunk hole, especially on the exterior or where there is another piece to be added on top, above the keel, below the keelson, say.

Posted

Thank you, so using a slightly thicker copper rod in the first place could be argued to represent a rod that has been clenched and countersunk (for the visible portion).

 

To be honest at the sizes involved a difference of a tenth of a mm would take a highly practiced eye to recognize..

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Joss,

That seems to be the way a lot the detail-oriented scratch builders are doing it.  I think I have seen one or two that actually clenched the bolts but most just do a bit over-sized.

Mark
"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

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