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Hey guys, i literally just came back from a 3 year break and im kinda lost about where to start when talking about wood, the models I'm planning on making are for RC and i dont know what type of wood would be best for the kneel and ribs, also the planking? where do you guys get your supplies? i was thinking of balsa wood for the planking? let me know your thoughts guys it would be really helpful :D

Posted

Kat

 

The attached is a good quick guide to wood choice. http://modelshipworldforum.com/ship-model-materials-and-tools.php

 

 

Or alternatively try. http://modelshipbuilder.com/page.php?49

 

 

Keith

 

Current Build:-

Cangarda (Steam Yacht) - Scale 1:24

 

Previous Builds:-

 

Schooner Germania (Nova) - Scale 1:36

https://modelshipworld.com/topic/19848-schooner-germania-nova-by-keithaug-scale-136-1908-2011/

Schooner Altair by KeithAug - Scale 1:32 - 1931

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/12515-schooner-altair-by-keithaug-scale-132-1931/?p=378702

J Class Endeavour by KeithAug - Amati - Scale 1:35 - 1989 after restoration.

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10752-j-class-endeavour-by-keithaug-amati-scale-135-1989-after-restoration/?p=325029

 

Other Topics

Nautical Adventures

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13727-nautical-adventures/?p=422846

 

 

Posted

What is your country/state of residence?

What full size tools do you have?

 

If you are not building something that flies,  Balsa is a very poor choice.

 

In a built up ship/boat model,  the weight of the wood is of little or no consequence.

To get it to float and not roll over, ballast will be required.

 

Although any species of Oak is an inappropriate choice, a TV show re: Mary Deare  (?)

showed that a characteristic of Red Oak makes it a specially poor choice:  it is very porous.

Air can be blown thru it.

NRG member 50 years

 

Current:  

NMS

HMS Ajax 1767 - 74-gun 3rd rate - 1:192 POF exploration - works but too intense -no margin for error

HMS Centurion 1732 - 60-gun 4th rate - POF Navall Timber framing

HMS Beagle 1831 refiit  10-gun brig with a small mizzen - POF Navall (ish) Timber framing

The U.S. Ex. Ex. 1838-1842
Flying Fish 1838  pilot schooner - POF framed - ready for stern timbers
Porpose II  1836  brigantine/brig - POF framed - ready for hawse and stern timbers
Vincennes  1825  Sloop-of-War  - POF timbers assembled, need shaping
Peacock  1828  Sloop-of -War  - POF timbers ready for assembly
Sea Gull  1838  pilot schooner - POF timbers ready for assembly
Relief  1835 packet hull USN ship - POF timbers ready for assembly

Other

Portsmouth  1843  Sloop-of-War  - POF timbers ready for assembly
Le Commerce de Marseilles  1788   118 cannons - POF framed

La Renommee 1744 Frigate - POF framed - ready for hawse and stern timbers

 

Posted

Thanks guys, im from Mexico, this hobbie is almost no existent in my country so its a bit hard for me lol, but i dont give up easily, im really gald i got to read balsa wood is a poor choice along with Oak, and speaking of full size tools i assume you are talking about saws, so  i only have an electric jigsaw and a coping saw. 

Posted

Since you are in a more tropical region, your choice of local hardwood

will probably be different from what we in the temperate zone have available.

If you have a local hardwood merchant with milling services you may be

able to obtain timber stock at a lower cost than mail order import.

 

Acer sp. (Maple), Pyrus sp. (Pear),  Citrus sp.  (most trees are too small to interest

commercial interests, but you may get lucky.  Malus sp. (Apple) is ideal but you may be

too far South.

 

Ideally, you want : hard, tight grain, closed pore, straight grain with little or no contrast.

The more boring, better it scales down.  A dealer should be able to help.

Check with local woodworkers for resaw and thickness planning help.

NRG member 50 years

 

Current:  

NMS

HMS Ajax 1767 - 74-gun 3rd rate - 1:192 POF exploration - works but too intense -no margin for error

HMS Centurion 1732 - 60-gun 4th rate - POF Navall Timber framing

HMS Beagle 1831 refiit  10-gun brig with a small mizzen - POF Navall (ish) Timber framing

The U.S. Ex. Ex. 1838-1842
Flying Fish 1838  pilot schooner - POF framed - ready for stern timbers
Porpose II  1836  brigantine/brig - POF framed - ready for hawse and stern timbers
Vincennes  1825  Sloop-of-War  - POF timbers assembled, need shaping
Peacock  1828  Sloop-of -War  - POF timbers ready for assembly
Sea Gull  1838  pilot schooner - POF timbers ready for assembly
Relief  1835 packet hull USN ship - POF timbers ready for assembly

Other

Portsmouth  1843  Sloop-of-War  - POF timbers ready for assembly
Le Commerce de Marseilles  1788   118 cannons - POF framed

La Renommee 1744 Frigate - POF framed - ready for hawse and stern timbers

 

Posted

I use poplar wood for RC boats.  It is not too hard and easy to use.  But whatever wood you use, as it gets wet and dries, or gets hot and cold the wood will swell and shrink leaving gaps between the planks for water to get in.  I always painted both inside and outside with fiberglass epoxy. (It also strengthens the wood.)  I put the fiberglass inside where it would not show and on the outside I would paint it with just the epoxy resin mixed two parts resin with one part alcohol to thin it out like paint.  The alcohol evaporates and leaves a hard waterproof finish.

 

Bob

Every build is a learning experience.

 

Current build:  SS_ Mariefred

 

Completed builds:  US Coast Guard Pequot   Friendship-sloop,  Schooner Lettie-G.-Howard,   Spray,   Grand-Banks-dory

                                                a gaff rigged yawl,  HOGA (YT-146),  Int'l Dragon Class II,   Two Edwardian Launches 

 

In the Gallery:   Catboat,   International-Dragon-Class,   Spray

Posted

Hello KAT,

 

Ulises Victoria a Mexican member lives in Monterey. Perhaps if you contact him by PM he could help you with information on suitable wood available in Mexico. He has a build log of the Royal Louis on page 7 of the Kit Build section of the forum.

 

Kind regards,

 

Dave :dancetl6:

  • 2 weeks later...
Posted
On 3/27/2017 at 2:59 AM, Jaager said:

Since you are in a more tropical region, your choice of local hardwood

will probably be different from what we in the temperate zone have available.

If you have a local hardwood merchant with milling services you may be

able to obtain timber stock at a lower cost than mail order import.

 

 

Depends on where in Mexico.  Mexicali & Tijuana are going to be completely different than Mexico City!

Posted

Hello Kat.

I have the advantage of living in Monterrey, just a couple of hours from Texas.

I have a company who provides me with an address in Texas to order my stuff there and then brings them to Monterrey for a reasonable 16% of invoice value. Not sure if there are such companies in CDMX but it is worth to investigate.

Most of my purchases I make through Amazon, and woods and ship/hobby related things I order from the sponsors at the right of this forum's main page.

 

Member Karleop is from Guaymas, and I think we are the only Mexicans really active in this forum.

 

Hope this helps!!!

Ulises

There aren't but two options: do it FAST, or do it RIGHT.

 

Current Project Build Log: Soleil Royal in 1/72. Kit by Artesania Latina.

Last finished projectsRoyal Ship Vasa 1628; French Vessel Royal Louis 1780. 1/90 Scale by Mamoli. 120 Cannons

 

Future projects already in my stash: Panart: San Felipe 1/75; OcCre: Santísima Trinidad 1/90;

Wish List: 1/64 Amati Victory, HMS Enterprise in 1/48 by CAF models.

 

So much to build, so little time!

 

 

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