Sjors Posted May 18, 2017 #61 Posted May 18, 2017 That brings back memories....... Nice ! Sjors FrozenRabbit471 1 Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre
FrozenRabbit471 Posted May 18, 2017 Author #62 Posted May 18, 2017 Thanks Sjors. I'm really enjoying it Sjors 1 Quote "It's better to have it and not want it, than to need it and not have it" Tommy Lee Jones as Col. Agustus McCrea in Lonesome Dove" "Long may your big jib draw" An old greeting between sailors, of best wishes and the hope for good wind . Oh, the rollin' of the sea is beckonin' to me Powerful first line of a song that best describs me.
amateur Posted May 18, 2017 #63 Posted May 18, 2017 Must be easier than the oldfashioned abachi-based sides (brittle, heavily grained wood.) Can remember that almost all windows had problems.... This looks relatively easy to build. (but looks can be deceptive ) Jan Sjors, cog, Tallshiptragic and 2 others 5 Quote
FrozenRabbit471 Posted May 18, 2017 Author #64 Posted May 18, 2017 well, not easy for me. But fun. popeye the sailor, Tallshiptragic, cog and 2 others 5 Quote "It's better to have it and not want it, than to need it and not have it" Tommy Lee Jones as Col. Agustus McCrea in Lonesome Dove" "Long may your big jib draw" An old greeting between sailors, of best wishes and the hope for good wind . Oh, the rollin' of the sea is beckonin' to me Powerful first line of a song that best describs me.
FrozenRabbit471 Posted May 19, 2017 Author #65 Posted May 19, 2017 Did some sanding of the hull this morning and primed the cabins for the top deck Tallshiptragic, maddog33, popeye the sailor and 1 other 4 Quote "It's better to have it and not want it, than to need it and not have it" Tommy Lee Jones as Col. Agustus McCrea in Lonesome Dove" "Long may your big jib draw" An old greeting between sailors, of best wishes and the hope for good wind . Oh, the rollin' of the sea is beckonin' to me Powerful first line of a song that best describs me.
FrozenRabbit471 Posted May 19, 2017 Author #66 Posted May 19, 2017 Wait, hang on! This is the first time I ever used fibreglass putty. I have no finesse in my hand to spread and feather this stuff out. The initial coat "IS" on right and in every crack, but I think I added too much hardener. That and the amount I put on is a learning curve. It appears to be an epic fail, but she will be a fine ship when I'm done. popeye the sailor, cog and maddog33 3 Quote "It's better to have it and not want it, than to need it and not have it" Tommy Lee Jones as Col. Agustus McCrea in Lonesome Dove" "Long may your big jib draw" An old greeting between sailors, of best wishes and the hope for good wind . Oh, the rollin' of the sea is beckonin' to me Powerful first line of a song that best describs me.
Tallshiptragic Posted May 20, 2017 #67 Posted May 20, 2017 Looks a little heavy on the coats my friend but will a lot of sanding it will be fine. Did you sand the hull down before adding the putty? Quote Anton T Current build 1/78 Sovereign of the Seas - Sergal - kit bashed 1/72 Arleigh Burke class DDG flight iia/iii - Sratch built RC - no log Waiting for further inspiration STS Leeuwin II 1/56 scratch built (90% completed) Previous builds - completed 1/72 HMAS Brisbane, Airwarfare Destroyer 2014 -Scratch built RC - completed 1/64 HMS Diana 1796 - caldercraft kit - completed 1/75 Friesland 1668- mamoli kit - completed 1/96 HMAS Newcastle FFG 2011- scratch built RC - completed 1/75 Vasa - Billing Boats - completed
FrozenRabbit471 Posted May 20, 2017 Author #68 Posted May 20, 2017 7 hours ago, Tallshiptragic said: Looks a little heavy on the coats my friend but will a lot of sanding it will be fine. Did you sand the hull down before adding the putty? yes I did sand it. going to be a bit of work. glad I didn't do the other side yet Quote "It's better to have it and not want it, than to need it and not have it" Tommy Lee Jones as Col. Agustus McCrea in Lonesome Dove" "Long may your big jib draw" An old greeting between sailors, of best wishes and the hope for good wind . Oh, the rollin' of the sea is beckonin' to me Powerful first line of a song that best describs me.
Tallshiptragic Posted May 20, 2017 #69 Posted May 20, 2017 If you have an angle grinder but with variable speed (can change the motor speed) that will be an easy way of cutting through the hardened putty. Take your time though, sand a little at a time. Like I mentioned I use car bog putty which is waterproof before a resin coating. With the other side, thin smooth coats. It's all a learning process and you won't need to be concerned with your hull, as you said once you've pained through the sanding it'll be nice a smooth in the end. I'd also recommend finishing and shaping the bow bulwarks and bulbous bow so you can resin that at the same time. popeye the sailor and cog 2 Quote Anton T Current build 1/78 Sovereign of the Seas - Sergal - kit bashed 1/72 Arleigh Burke class DDG flight iia/iii - Sratch built RC - no log Waiting for further inspiration STS Leeuwin II 1/56 scratch built (90% completed) Previous builds - completed 1/72 HMAS Brisbane, Airwarfare Destroyer 2014 -Scratch built RC - completed 1/64 HMS Diana 1796 - caldercraft kit - completed 1/75 Friesland 1668- mamoli kit - completed 1/96 HMAS Newcastle FFG 2011- scratch built RC - completed 1/75 Vasa - Billing Boats - completed
FrozenRabbit471 Posted May 20, 2017 Author #70 Posted May 20, 2017 The kit doesn't supply acetate so I used parchment paper. It give me a precision fit. I have the bow section glued together but not to the boat yet. The hull has been completly filled, sanded and another fill in certain areas. Ill sand that tomorrow. I've also sanded the window holes a little bit to add some realism, shown in the photo. It hasn't been fine tuned yet. popeye the sailor, maddog33, cog and 1 other 4 Quote "It's better to have it and not want it, than to need it and not have it" Tommy Lee Jones as Col. Agustus McCrea in Lonesome Dove" "Long may your big jib draw" An old greeting between sailors, of best wishes and the hope for good wind . Oh, the rollin' of the sea is beckonin' to me Powerful first line of a song that best describs me.
Tallshiptragic Posted May 20, 2017 #71 Posted May 20, 2017 Nice progress my father actually built this kit back in the 80's and I always loved this ship due to the power and size of her. The model is now with the Fremantle port authority and not sure if it's still on display or not to be honest. FrozenRabbit471, cog and popeye the sailor 3 Quote Anton T Current build 1/78 Sovereign of the Seas - Sergal - kit bashed 1/72 Arleigh Burke class DDG flight iia/iii - Sratch built RC - no log Waiting for further inspiration STS Leeuwin II 1/56 scratch built (90% completed) Previous builds - completed 1/72 HMAS Brisbane, Airwarfare Destroyer 2014 -Scratch built RC - completed 1/64 HMS Diana 1796 - caldercraft kit - completed 1/75 Friesland 1668- mamoli kit - completed 1/96 HMAS Newcastle FFG 2011- scratch built RC - completed 1/75 Vasa - Billing Boats - completed
Tallshiptragic Posted May 20, 2017 #72 Posted May 20, 2017 I always found wood hard to make look like steel until I discovered Tamiya putty primer! It's a very fine primer putty in a spray can, but with a couple coats and light sand by hand you achieve a very smooth surface. Just another thought your way my friend. cog 1 Quote Anton T Current build 1/78 Sovereign of the Seas - Sergal - kit bashed 1/72 Arleigh Burke class DDG flight iia/iii - Sratch built RC - no log Waiting for further inspiration STS Leeuwin II 1/56 scratch built (90% completed) Previous builds - completed 1/72 HMAS Brisbane, Airwarfare Destroyer 2014 -Scratch built RC - completed 1/64 HMS Diana 1796 - caldercraft kit - completed 1/75 Friesland 1668- mamoli kit - completed 1/96 HMAS Newcastle FFG 2011- scratch built RC - completed 1/75 Vasa - Billing Boats - completed
FrozenRabbit471 Posted May 20, 2017 Author #73 Posted May 20, 2017 6 minutes ago, Tallshiptragic said: Nice progress my father actually built this kit back in the 80's and I always loved this ship due to the power and size of her. The model is now with the Fremantle port authority and not sure if it's still on display or not to be honest. That's pretty sweet. Im hoping mine will turn a head or two Quote "It's better to have it and not want it, than to need it and not have it" Tommy Lee Jones as Col. Agustus McCrea in Lonesome Dove" "Long may your big jib draw" An old greeting between sailors, of best wishes and the hope for good wind . Oh, the rollin' of the sea is beckonin' to me Powerful first line of a song that best describs me.
KeithAug Posted May 20, 2017 #74 Posted May 20, 2017 its a bit late now but it might be worth noting for the future. Mix a little body filler and spread it thinly with a flexible (plastic) spatula - about 1.5 to 2 inches wide. Limit the area being filled to about 4 inches by 8 inches. This should mean that you get the mixed filler on before it starts to go off. Rub it down until smooth using a coarse emery cloth - 60 or 80 grit. Apply another thin coat and repeat. Carry on this way until the whole hull has been done - it may take 15 to 30 applications. As you reach the later applications you should move to finer emery cloth 120 to 180 grit. maddog33 1 Quote Keith Current Build:- Cangarda (Steam Yacht) - Scale 1:24 Previous Builds:- Schooner Germania (Nova) - Scale 1:36 https://modelshipworld.com/topic/19848-schooner-germania-nova-by-keithaug-scale-136-1908-2011/ Schooner Altair by KeithAug - Scale 1:32 - 1931 http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/12515-schooner-altair-by-keithaug-scale-132-1931/?p=378702 J Class Endeavour by KeithAug - Amati - Scale 1:35 - 1989 after restoration. http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10752-j-class-endeavour-by-keithaug-amati-scale-135-1989-after-restoration/?p=325029 Other Topics Nautical Adventures http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13727-nautical-adventures/?p=422846
Paul Jarman Posted May 20, 2017 #75 Posted May 20, 2017 You should be fine with a bit of elbow grease. The hull at least looks like it is running true. Good work with the bulb. I did the same only i used wood filer not fibreglass putty. But i have filled and sanded back twice before being happy with the finish. Paul cog 1 Quote In work: -queen-mary-2 Finished: rms-titanic-1912 Finished: king-of-the-Mississippi Finished: Sanson
FrozenRabbit471 Posted May 20, 2017 Author #76 Posted May 20, 2017 Paul, I noticed the bulb on all the Rotterdam models was pointy. I'm not sure if that's what it is on the 1:1 scale ship, but it's not what I want. I wanted a bulb that looks more so what you typically see. Makes the front of the ship look a little tougher. Of course it will be under water anyway lol. I wonder if the models out there ends up being pointy because that's where the planks end up meeting. I'll be customizing mine to give the front just a shade rounder. You can see I've left mine open quite a bit. I'll sand down the bamboo (or whatever the soft wood blocks are) and add planks vertically to close it in. Custom bow project!!! I've been looking around the ship here and there and may make some minor changes. "minor" 34 minutes ago, Paul Jarman said: You should be fine with a bit of elbow grease. The hull at least looks like it is running true. Good work with the bulb. I did the same only i used wood filer not fibreglass putty. But i have filled and sanded back twice before being happy with the finish. Paul popeye the sailor 1 Quote "It's better to have it and not want it, than to need it and not have it" Tommy Lee Jones as Col. Agustus McCrea in Lonesome Dove" "Long may your big jib draw" An old greeting between sailors, of best wishes and the hope for good wind . Oh, the rollin' of the sea is beckonin' to me Powerful first line of a song that best describs me.
Tallshiptragic Posted May 21, 2017 #77 Posted May 21, 2017 This is the smit London in dry dock one of the three sisters of Rotterdam, London and Singapore. The bulb is a little pointy in real life, not 90 degree flat surface. cog, maddog33, popeye the sailor and 1 other 4 Quote Anton T Current build 1/78 Sovereign of the Seas - Sergal - kit bashed 1/72 Arleigh Burke class DDG flight iia/iii - Sratch built RC - no log Waiting for further inspiration STS Leeuwin II 1/56 scratch built (90% completed) Previous builds - completed 1/72 HMAS Brisbane, Airwarfare Destroyer 2014 -Scratch built RC - completed 1/64 HMS Diana 1796 - caldercraft kit - completed 1/75 Friesland 1668- mamoli kit - completed 1/96 HMAS Newcastle FFG 2011- scratch built RC - completed 1/75 Vasa - Billing Boats - completed
FrozenRabbit471 Posted May 21, 2017 Author #78 Posted May 21, 2017 2 hours ago, Tallshiptragic said: This is the smit London in dry dock one of the three sisters of Rotterdam, London and Singapore. The bulb is a little pointy in real life, not 90 degree flat surface. Wow, quite the blade going on there. I'm keeping mine a little rounded i think. Never seen one like that before Anton. Thanks. Tallshiptragic 1 Quote "It's better to have it and not want it, than to need it and not have it" Tommy Lee Jones as Col. Agustus McCrea in Lonesome Dove" "Long may your big jib draw" An old greeting between sailors, of best wishes and the hope for good wind . Oh, the rollin' of the sea is beckonin' to me Powerful first line of a song that best describs me.
Tallshiptragic Posted May 21, 2017 #79 Posted May 21, 2017 This is the launching of Rotterdam cog, FrozenRabbit471, Sjors and 1 other 4 Quote Anton T Current build 1/78 Sovereign of the Seas - Sergal - kit bashed 1/72 Arleigh Burke class DDG flight iia/iii - Sratch built RC - no log Waiting for further inspiration STS Leeuwin II 1/56 scratch built (90% completed) Previous builds - completed 1/72 HMAS Brisbane, Airwarfare Destroyer 2014 -Scratch built RC - completed 1/64 HMS Diana 1796 - caldercraft kit - completed 1/75 Friesland 1668- mamoli kit - completed 1/96 HMAS Newcastle FFG 2011- scratch built RC - completed 1/75 Vasa - Billing Boats - completed
Sjors Posted May 21, 2017 #80 Posted May 21, 2017 Big city to launch Rotterdam Anton The Smit Rotterdam went to service at Juli 1975 and demolition in Juli 2014.....in Panama. To bad for such beautiful tug ( Also the London ) Sjors Tallshiptragic 1 Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre
FrozenRabbit471 Posted May 21, 2017 Author #81 Posted May 21, 2017 5 hours ago, Tallshiptragic said: This is the launching of Rotterdam nice! Quote "It's better to have it and not want it, than to need it and not have it" Tommy Lee Jones as Col. Agustus McCrea in Lonesome Dove" "Long may your big jib draw" An old greeting between sailors, of best wishes and the hope for good wind . Oh, the rollin' of the sea is beckonin' to me Powerful first line of a song that best describs me.
FrozenRabbit471 Posted May 21, 2017 Author #82 Posted May 21, 2017 3 hours ago, Sjors said: Big city to launch Rotterdam Anton The Smit Rotterdam went to service at Juli 1975 and demolition in Juli 2014.....in Panama. To bad for such beautiful tug ( Also the London ) Sjors never knew she was gone. too bad Sjors 1 Quote "It's better to have it and not want it, than to need it and not have it" Tommy Lee Jones as Col. Agustus McCrea in Lonesome Dove" "Long may your big jib draw" An old greeting between sailors, of best wishes and the hope for good wind . Oh, the rollin' of the sea is beckonin' to me Powerful first line of a song that best describs me.
amateur Posted May 21, 2017 #83 Posted May 21, 2017 Beautiful ships, but after more than thirty years, somewhat lacking power for the large towing jobs. It's the economy......:( Another lookalike (smit houston) also gone: demolished after a large fire in the engine room. And promise us: do not follow billings in the colour scheme. No idea why they use some nasty shade of green. The oriiginal had some darker green. Jan maddog33, cog and Sjors 3 Quote
FrozenRabbit471 Posted May 21, 2017 Author #84 Posted May 21, 2017 The beauty about these models, you can make small modifications to make it your own. There is beauty, even in an aged, now demolished, tug. We had two identical super-ferries running between Nova Scotia and Newfoundland for years. They sent them off to some beach in India I beleive to be torn apart. Caused quite a stir. Everyone hated to see them go. They were named M.V. Joseph & Clara Smallwood and the M.V. Caribou Absolutely amazing, beautiful ships. I wish there was a 1:75 scale model of one of them. Sjors 1 Quote "It's better to have it and not want it, than to need it and not have it" Tommy Lee Jones as Col. Agustus McCrea in Lonesome Dove" "Long may your big jib draw" An old greeting between sailors, of best wishes and the hope for good wind . Oh, the rollin' of the sea is beckonin' to me Powerful first line of a song that best describs me.
FrozenRabbit471 Posted May 21, 2017 Author #85 Posted May 21, 2017 I did some more sanding and filling, working tiny amounts on the bow face and shaping the bell the way I want it. I had that done by 11 a.m. and feel guilty (haha) not working on the superstructure today. But hey, her 1:1 wasn't built in a day. Slow & steady robdurant, WBlakeny, cog and 5 others 8 Quote "It's better to have it and not want it, than to need it and not have it" Tommy Lee Jones as Col. Agustus McCrea in Lonesome Dove" "Long may your big jib draw" An old greeting between sailors, of best wishes and the hope for good wind . Oh, the rollin' of the sea is beckonin' to me Powerful first line of a song that best describs me.
FrozenRabbit471 Posted May 31, 2017 Author #86 Posted May 31, 2017 Hey all, I haven't given up. I've simply got derailed by life. I Have done a small bit of work on the lower superstructure in between being busy. I hope to get back at the hull and get my RC components soon. Terry CDW, Sjors, popeye the sailor and 1 other 4 Quote "It's better to have it and not want it, than to need it and not have it" Tommy Lee Jones as Col. Agustus McCrea in Lonesome Dove" "Long may your big jib draw" An old greeting between sailors, of best wishes and the hope for good wind . Oh, the rollin' of the sea is beckonin' to me Powerful first line of a song that best describs me.
FrozenRabbit471 Posted June 2, 2017 Author #87 Posted June 2, 2017 I've discovered the initial bulk filler application over the hull was the easy part. The later stages of smaller amounts of filler is like pulling teeth. Very tedious. It's all a part of it I guess. I am either very lucky or actually have some hidden skills to have pulled of a successful hull despite the not so perfect planking. The easy part of the build is all behind me now. This is where patience and time really kicks in. I am still loving it. popeye the sailor, Tallshiptragic and CDW 3 Quote "It's better to have it and not want it, than to need it and not have it" Tommy Lee Jones as Col. Agustus McCrea in Lonesome Dove" "Long may your big jib draw" An old greeting between sailors, of best wishes and the hope for good wind . Oh, the rollin' of the sea is beckonin' to me Powerful first line of a song that best describs me.
FrozenRabbit471 Posted June 2, 2017 Author #88 Posted June 2, 2017 The bow & bell are working out great. It's obviously not completed yet. Fill and sand, fill and sand. To the non builders, it doesn't look very good, but it's only due to the various shading of fillers. The paint and wax will prove to be a masterpiece for this amateur!😁 KeithAug, maddog33, CDW and 2 others 5 Quote "It's better to have it and not want it, than to need it and not have it" Tommy Lee Jones as Col. Agustus McCrea in Lonesome Dove" "Long may your big jib draw" An old greeting between sailors, of best wishes and the hope for good wind . Oh, the rollin' of the sea is beckonin' to me Powerful first line of a song that best describs me.
popeye the sailor Posted June 2, 2017 #89 Posted June 2, 2017 no chance of that.......your build shows too much effort! you're doing a great job just follow the contours.....the hull will shape itself Tallshiptragic 1 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch
Tallshiptragic Posted June 2, 2017 #90 Posted June 2, 2017 Great to see you back at it. She's looking great Quote Anton T Current build 1/78 Sovereign of the Seas - Sergal - kit bashed 1/72 Arleigh Burke class DDG flight iia/iii - Sratch built RC - no log Waiting for further inspiration STS Leeuwin II 1/56 scratch built (90% completed) Previous builds - completed 1/72 HMAS Brisbane, Airwarfare Destroyer 2014 -Scratch built RC - completed 1/64 HMS Diana 1796 - caldercraft kit - completed 1/75 Friesland 1668- mamoli kit - completed 1/96 HMAS Newcastle FFG 2011- scratch built RC - completed 1/75 Vasa - Billing Boats - completed
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