Kikatinalong Posted February 22, 2020 #1 Posted February 22, 2020 I came across these magazines sorting through my fathers belongings. im guessing my grandfather bought them from England when they came to Australia in 1948. There is every edition including the first from 1931 through to 1937 and some from 1938. 79 magazines in all. My question is what have I really found and what should I do with them. To be honest I'm sure there are people that would get more enjoyment than me from owning them. cheers Peter. mtaylor, modeller_masa, BETAQDAVE and 1 other 4 Quote
Jaager Posted February 22, 2020 #2 Posted February 22, 2020 If the content is public domain, they could be scanned, converted to PDF and posted online. An online search lists the publishing company as being dissolved. Or, it looks like a job for Dover. mtaylor 1 Quote NRG member 50 years Current: NMS HMS Ajax 1767 - 74-gun 3rd rate - 1:192 POF exploration - works but too intense -no margin for error HMS Centurion 1732 - 60-gun 4th rate - POF Navall Timber framing HMS Beagle 1831 refiit 10-gun brig with a small mizzen - POF Navall (ish) Timber framing The U.S. Ex. Ex. 1838-1842 Flying Fish 1838 pilot schooner - POF framed - ready for stern timbers Porpose II 1836 brigantine/brig - POF framed - ready for hawse and stern timbers Vincennes 1825 Sloop-of-War - POF timbers assembled, need shaping Peacock 1828 Sloop-of -War - POF timbers ready for assembly Sea Gull 1838 pilot schooner - POF timbers ready for assembly Relief 1835 packet hull USN ship - POF timbers ready for assembly Other Portsmouth 1843 Sloop-of-War - POF timbers ready for assembly Le Commerce de Marseilles 1788 118 cannons - POF framed La Renommee 1744 Frigate - POF framed - ready for hawse and stern timbers
modeller_masa Posted February 22, 2020 #3 Posted February 22, 2020 (edited) https://www.gracesguide.co.uk/Percival_Marshall It looks like the company is still alive. I think it's not a public domain until 2043 because of 95 years of copyrights in the US. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_domain The price of each book at the Amazon is around $10. Your books are really in good condition. Thank you for impressive photo! Edited February 22, 2020 by modeller_masa mtaylor 1 Quote
bruce d Posted February 22, 2020 #4 Posted February 22, 2020 They are good reading material and a good reminder of how much the hobby has evolved. I found a bound volume from 1933ish on a bookstore shelf a few years back which contained a series on explanations of nautical terms and ships' parts: I wondered if this was the first time such a resource had been published. Take good care of them, they look to be in good condition. mtaylor 1 Quote 🌻 STAY SAFE A model shipwright and an amateur historian are heads & tails of the same coin current builds: HMS Berwick 1775, 1/192 scratchbuild; a Slade 74 in the Navy Board style Mediator sloop, 1/48 - an 18th century transport scratchbuild French longboat - CAF - 1/48, on hold
tomwilberg Posted March 28, 2020 #5 Posted March 28, 2020 (edited) On 2/22/2020 at 9:50 AM, Jaager said: If the content is public domain, they could be scanned, converted to PDF and posted online. An online search lists the publishing company as being dissolved. ... Sounds good. who is doing it? greetings thomas Edited March 28, 2020 by tomwilberg mtaylor 1 Quote
stm Posted March 28, 2020 #6 Posted March 28, 2020 I believe there was a book published long time ago that incorporated the individual magazines from the 30s into one binder. Could not find it on line and I may be mistaken, but it kind of sounds like these were the magazines. I actually had a copy of the book, but donated it to charity along with other items years ago. Scott mtaylor 1 Quote
Jaager Posted March 28, 2020 #7 Posted March 28, 2020 The book that I have is ~300 pages and is just Vol.1. Sept. 1931 to Aug. 1932. Issues #1-#12 mtaylor 1 Quote NRG member 50 years Current: NMS HMS Ajax 1767 - 74-gun 3rd rate - 1:192 POF exploration - works but too intense -no margin for error HMS Centurion 1732 - 60-gun 4th rate - POF Navall Timber framing HMS Beagle 1831 refiit 10-gun brig with a small mizzen - POF Navall (ish) Timber framing The U.S. Ex. Ex. 1838-1842 Flying Fish 1838 pilot schooner - POF framed - ready for stern timbers Porpose II 1836 brigantine/brig - POF framed - ready for hawse and stern timbers Vincennes 1825 Sloop-of-War - POF timbers assembled, need shaping Peacock 1828 Sloop-of -War - POF timbers ready for assembly Sea Gull 1838 pilot schooner - POF timbers ready for assembly Relief 1835 packet hull USN ship - POF timbers ready for assembly Other Portsmouth 1843 Sloop-of-War - POF timbers ready for assembly Le Commerce de Marseilles 1788 118 cannons - POF framed La Renommee 1744 Frigate - POF framed - ready for hawse and stern timbers
bruce d Posted March 28, 2020 #8 Posted March 28, 2020 (edited) 40 minutes ago, Jaager said: The book that I have is ~300 pages and is just Vol.1. Sept. 1931 to Aug. 1932. Issues #1-#12 ... and the one I have is September 1933 to April 1936. I see a pattern. Edited March 28, 2020 by bruce d mtaylor 1 Quote 🌻 STAY SAFE A model shipwright and an amateur historian are heads & tails of the same coin current builds: HMS Berwick 1775, 1/192 scratchbuild; a Slade 74 in the Navy Board style Mediator sloop, 1/48 - an 18th century transport scratchbuild French longboat - CAF - 1/48, on hold
Kikatinalong Posted March 29, 2020 Author #9 Posted March 29, 2020 8 hours ago, bruce d said: ... and the one I have is September 1933 to April 1936. I see a pattern. I also see a pattern, these magazines were amongst thousands of train mags my father had. Some of those magazines also in the 30's are in a yearly book . Maybe u subscribed to the single editions with the option of buying it in a book form at years end. mtaylor 1 Quote
Louie da fly Posted March 29, 2020 #10 Posted March 29, 2020 On 2/22/2020 at 8:52 PM, modeller_masa said: It looks like the company is still alive. I think it's not a public domain until 2043 because of 95 years of copyrights in the US. Not so sure it's alive. As far as I can see there are no mentions after the middle of the 20th century. The magazines were published in the UK, where the copyright status is "copyright in literary, dramatic, musical and artistic works currently expires 70 years from the end of the calendar year of the author's death. Where the work has more than one author, the copyright expires 70 years after the death of the last survivor of them." I don't know how (if at all) that applies to the publishing company, which I suppose would be the owner of the copyright, even though a lot of the content was written by private contributors. An interesting legal puzzle. Steven modeller_masa, Kikatinalong and mtaylor 3 Quote It's not really a ship model unless you've bled on it. CURRENT BUILDS Golden City - Ballarat paddlewheeler La Lomellina - Theoretical Reconstruction of a Genoese carrack sunk in 1516 FINISHED Venetian merchant Ship from Basilica of San Marco Australian couta boat RMS Titanic HMVS Cerberus 11th century Byzantine dromon Winchelsea Nef - Late 13th century Mediaeval ship Henry Grace a Dieu - Rebuild of 1:200 model I started in 1967 Mistydeefer - restoration of decor model yacht
Tony Hunt Posted April 7, 2020 #11 Posted April 7, 2020 Are you in Sydney Peter? I'd love to read them, happy to return them when I'm done. There used to be a racing yacht in Sydney named Kickatinalong, regular Sydney-Hobarter for a while. Any relation? Kikatinalong and mtaylor 2 Quote
Kikatinalong Posted April 7, 2020 Author #12 Posted April 7, 2020 17 hours ago, Tony Hunt said: Are you in Sydney Peter? I'd love to read them, happy to return them when I'm done. There used to be a racing yacht in Sydney named Kickatinalong, regular Sydney-Hobarter for a while. Any relation? I'm in Melbourne Tony, send me a private message and we might be able to work something out. The name came from something I always did as a kid. Cheers Peter Quote
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