jmegnin@ymail.com Posted February 24, 2020 Share #1 Posted February 24, 2020 Hi out there My name is Jim and I have a question on the placement/attachment of the 'b' block to the mast tops in the running rigging( w/o sails ). Any info would be great and if more info is required you can contact me at XXXXX.XXX (Email addy removed by moderator to prevent you being spammed. popeye the sailor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye2sea Posted March 1, 2020 Share #2 Posted March 1, 2020 Jim, I am assuming that the b-block nomenclature is referring to the type and size of the block as per your rigging plan. Could you say what part of the rig or what line you are referring to? There are many, many blocks in the tops for the Constitution. Regards, popeye the sailor and mtaylor 2 Quote Henry Laissez le bon temps rouler ! Current Build: Le Soleil Royal Completed Build: Amerigo Vespucci Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmegnin@ymail.com Posted March 1, 2020 Author Share #3 Posted March 1, 2020 Hi Popeye2sea jmegnin here I am referring to the upper halyards of each mast tops and it would be greatly appreciated if I could get the actual location of the b blocks and how they are attached to the mast tops mtaylor and popeye the sailor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted March 1, 2020 Share #4 Posted March 1, 2020 than's how Revell designates the different blocks do you have the running rigging sheet? the halyards run through the masts and lead down to a pulley assembly. supper is ready and I gotta go.......look this over and see if it helps. mtaylor 1 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted March 1, 2020 Share #5 Posted March 1, 2020 I know this is for the United States....they have the same instruction sheets mtaylor 1 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmegnin@ymail.com Posted March 2, 2020 Author Share #6 Posted March 2, 2020 Good day popeye2sea jmegnin here got your message and drawing yes it is the same set of instructions In detail B it shows B block with instructions to tie to mast top I see that is toward the stern of the ship, but it does not show the location of the block from port to starboard and there is no pre-drilled holes for the attachment of the block. Can you help. Also, I have had the honor of visiting both the Constitution and her sister ship the Constellation located in Baltimore. Great ship and history. popeye the sailor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye2sea Posted March 3, 2020 Share #7 Posted March 3, 2020 OK, so first let me say that I think the rigging plan for these topgallant and the royal halyards is incorrect. There are tackles in this position on the actual ship however they are for the lower yard truss tackles. I actually do not remember how the halyards run on the ship. I will take a look and report back. That being said, if you are going to stay with the plan I would temporarily position a line that runs from the sheave hole on the mast to the belaying pin on the pin rail where it will belay. Mark the position where it crosses the top. That is where I would put the "B" block so that the tackle ends up in line with the lead of the halyard. You may have to drill a hole in the top so that you can fasten the block. You will end up with the topgallant halyard coming down to one side of the mast and the royal halyard coming down on the other. You should lead the fore halyards opposite to the main halyards. In other words if the fore topgallant leads to starboard then the main topgallant will lead to port. BTW, the "B" block is a single block with a becket. The becket is that second loop on the block. It takes the standing part of the tackle fall. Regards, popeye the sailor 1 Quote Henry Laissez le bon temps rouler ! Current Build: Le Soleil Royal Completed Build: Amerigo Vespucci Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted March 3, 2020 Share #8 Posted March 3, 2020 14 hours ago, jmegnin@ymail.com said: Also, I have had the honor of visiting both the Constitution and her sister ship the Constellation located in Baltimore. Great ship and history. I hate to say this, but they're not "sister ships"... The Constitution was launched in 1797. The Constellation in Baltimore was launched in 1854. There was the frigate Constellation but it was broken up around 1852 or so. Four timbers from the first were used in constructing the sloop of war Constellation. Note that the Constellation in Baltimore was being passed off as the frigate for many years before some research was done. popeye the sailor 1 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmegnin@ymail.com Posted March 4, 2020 Author Share #9 Posted March 4, 2020 mtaylor got the message and stand corrected thanks. I was on the Constellation back in 1970 and I'am sorry to say that was what I was told. I'll keepthe new info in mind thanks again. popeye the sailor and mtaylor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted March 4, 2020 Share #10 Posted March 4, 2020 Ah.. I was on it way back then also (around '75 or so) which is why I decided to build her. They had everyone convinced it was the frigate. I didn't find out that it wasn't until I started building the AL kit. I very quickly started modifying her to be the 1854 version. May not be a frigate but she's still a beautiful ship. lmagna and popeye the sailor 2 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmegnin@ymail.com Posted March 5, 2020 Author Share #11 Posted March 5, 2020 On 3/3/2020 at 12:13 AM, popeye2sea said: OK, so first let me say that I think the rigging plan for these topgallant and the royal halyards is incorrect. There are tackles in this position on the actual ship however they are for the lower yard truss tackles. I actually do not remember how the halyards run on the ship. I will take a look and report back. That being said, if you are going to stay with the plan I would temporarily position a line that runs from the sheave hole on the mast to the belaying pin on the pin rail where it will belay. Mark the position where it crosses the top. That is where I would put the "B" block so that the tackle ends up in line with the lead of the halyard. You may have to drill a hole in the top so that you can fasten the block. You will end up with the topgallant halyard coming down to one side of the mast and the royal halyard coming down on the other. You should lead the fore halyards opposite to the main halyards. In other words if the fore topgallant leads to starboard then the main topgallant will lead to port. BTW, the "B" block is a single block with a becket. The becket is that second loop on the block. It takes the standing part of the tackle fall. Regards, mtaylor and popeye the sailor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmegnin@ymail.com Posted March 5, 2020 Author Share #12 Posted March 5, 2020 To popeye2sea jmegnin here got your message and I’m staying the course I have already followed your instructions and have drilled those holes in the mast top. So with that being said I will continue to march with it and I will let you know how it turned out with this part of the instructions. Many thanks for the information and instructions. popeye the sailor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted March 5, 2020 Share #13 Posted March 5, 2020 jmegnin, If after you quote, go to the editing area at the bottom of the page. Then scroll down in that window and you type your response so it appears as one post and not two. popeye the sailor 1 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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