Vladimir_Wairoa Posted April 15, 2021 Share #781 Posted April 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, rwiederrich said: Modifying the Revell Cutty's stem and increasing her bulwarks was what needed to be dome to even remotely make the hull pass off as Glory's. Building all the deck furniture and houses was the easy part. I was never going to correct the deadrise of the Revell hull...so I had to live with that blaring error. But now with your new drawn bulkheads and framing...I have a chance to go back and do it right and correct all the minor errors that bothered me so. Rob Rob thanks for nice words its everyones bit i would be able to get it together without you and Richard. i like that flat fat bottom of her the most, but probably sleek and very clippery stern as well and now also bow with nice curvature. regarding cuts - i will send it both to your adress Rob, as it sould be say cheaper than sending 2 packages one by one. i think youd and Richard woudl Agree. so you can resend it in states far easier after they arrived. it would be easier with payments dfor me as well or whatever you wish...we can asrrange that in PMs. V. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladimir_Wairoa Posted April 15, 2021 Share #782 Posted April 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, rwiederrich said: A book signature is in order....I'll talk to Mike and set up another meeting. Cool. Please PM me to let me know what I will need to pay for the bulkheads and shipping and how to make the payment. Plus....I'm assuming you had the frames made in 1/72....I'll go with that..but if it is at all possible can they be reduced to 1/96 for my special needs? If that will be to difficult I'll stick with what you have already established. Thanks again so much Vlad Rob it is no problem for him to have them cut in 1/96. so? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snug Harbor Johnny Posted April 15, 2021 Share #783 Posted April 15, 2021 If drawings are available, they can be scaled to the size desired to make paper templates. Then the modeler can cut them on a jig saw. As has been said, the correct hull lines are the starting point for any type of model. The one shown earlier (1:96 Cutty based) without yards is very interesting, as it can be placed on a narrow shelf, and doesn't require a case (with an occasion spray of 'dust off'). I'm considering mounting yards that are turned at a significant angle (without sails) so the yard arms wouldn't extend beyond the width amidship. Quote Completed builds: Khufu Solar Barge - 1:72 Woody Joe Current project(s): Gorch Fock restoration 1:100, Billing Wasa (bust) - 1:100 Billings, Great Harry (bust) 1:88 ex. Sergal 1:65 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwiederrich Posted April 15, 2021 Author Share #784 Posted April 15, 2021 Vlad...Mike tells me he would love to sign a book for you. You did say you have a copy right? Mike is working from home for a short time and that would be the best time to get the signature. If you can't get your copy to me in a timely manner..I can get a copy in short order and have it signed for you if that is what makes more sense? Rob Quote Current build: Build log: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/25382-glory-of-the-seas-medium-clipper-1869-by-rwiederrich-196 Finished build: Build log: of 1/128th Great Republic: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13740-great-republic-by-rwiederrich-four-masted-extreme-clipper-1853/# Current build(On hold): Build log: 1/96 Donald McKay:http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/4522-donald-mckay-medium-clipper-by-rwiederrich-1855/ Completed build: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/gallery/album/475-196-cutty-sark-plastic/ The LORD said, "See, I have set (them) aside...with skills of all kinds, to make artistic designs for work in gold, silver, and bronze, to cut and set stones, to work in wood, and to engage in all kinds of crafts." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladimir_Wairoa Posted April 15, 2021 Share #785 Posted April 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, rwiederrich said: Vlad...Mike tells me he would love to sign a book for you. You did say you have a copy right? Mike is working from home for a short time and that would be the best time to get the signature. If you can't get your copy to me in a timely manner..I can get a copy in short order and have it signed for you if that is what makes more sense? Rob Huh Rob you work fast. Id prefer my book as it is old american library item with a stamps on it and has nice smell i got it second hand if you get what i mean. But no worries lets see how quick are those models cuts. Maybe next week , but again with covid airlines i expect 1 month voyage to u.s. so i dont know l. It is ok for me either way. Just let me know you wish 1/96 and Richard as well right? So i can let the guy know...thx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwiederrich Posted April 15, 2021 Author Share #786 Posted April 15, 2021 41 minutes ago, Vladimir_Wairoa said: Huh Rob you work fast. Id prefer my book as it is old american library item with a stamps on it and has nice smell i got it second hand if you get what i mean. But no worries lets see how quick are those models cuts. Maybe next week , but again with covid airlines i expect 1 month voyage to u.s. so i dont know l. It is ok for me either way. Just let me know you wish 1/96 and Richard as well right? So i can let the guy know...thx 1/96 if that is OK for me..not sure about Rich. I'm sure it will be OK too....I'll try to get his feedback. OH I understand about the book...the copy I had him sign had great value to me...even before he signed it. I plan on getting another copy anyway for myself and having him sign that too. I can't thank you enough Vlad. Rob Quote Current build: Build log: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/25382-glory-of-the-seas-medium-clipper-1869-by-rwiederrich-196 Finished build: Build log: of 1/128th Great Republic: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13740-great-republic-by-rwiederrich-four-masted-extreme-clipper-1853/# Current build(On hold): Build log: 1/96 Donald McKay:http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/4522-donald-mckay-medium-clipper-by-rwiederrich-1855/ Completed build: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/gallery/album/475-196-cutty-sark-plastic/ The LORD said, "See, I have set (them) aside...with skills of all kinds, to make artistic designs for work in gold, silver, and bronze, to cut and set stones, to work in wood, and to engage in all kinds of crafts." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwiederrich Posted April 15, 2021 Author Share #787 Posted April 15, 2021 2 hours ago, Snug Harbor Johnny said: If drawings are available, they can be scaled to the size desired to make paper templates. Then the modeler can cut them on a jig saw. As has been said, the correct hull lines are the starting point for any type of model. The one shown earlier (1:96 Cutty based) without yards is very interesting, as it can be placed on a narrow shelf, and doesn't require a case (with an occasion spray of 'dust off'). I'm considering mounting yards that are turned at a significant angle (without sails) so the yard arms wouldn't extend beyond the width amidship. Snug...we are beyond just drawings..we have then laser cut out now. Thanks for looking in. Rob Quote Current build: Build log: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/25382-glory-of-the-seas-medium-clipper-1869-by-rwiederrich-196 Finished build: Build log: of 1/128th Great Republic: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13740-great-republic-by-rwiederrich-four-masted-extreme-clipper-1853/# Current build(On hold): Build log: 1/96 Donald McKay:http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/4522-donald-mckay-medium-clipper-by-rwiederrich-1855/ Completed build: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/gallery/album/475-196-cutty-sark-plastic/ The LORD said, "See, I have set (them) aside...with skills of all kinds, to make artistic designs for work in gold, silver, and bronze, to cut and set stones, to work in wood, and to engage in all kinds of crafts." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladimir_Wairoa Posted April 15, 2021 Share #788 Posted April 15, 2021 39 minutes ago, rwiederrich said: 1/96 if that is OK for me..not sure about Rich. I'm sure it will be OK too....I'll try to get his feedback. OH I understand about the book...the copy I had him sign had great value to me...even before he signed it. I plan on getting another copy anyway for myself and having him sign that too. I can't thank you enough Vlad. Rob vice versa . Not meeting you here Id probably never heard of glory of the seas. you know that story from the start :)) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwiederrich Posted April 15, 2021 Author Share #789 Posted April 15, 2021 50 minutes ago, Vladimir_Wairoa said: vice versa . Not meeting you here Id probably never heard of glory of the seas. you know that story from the start :)) Isn't that cool...she's taken you over....hasn't she? McKay ships are amazing and doing the historical research makes it all the more fun. Thanks again. Rob Quote Current build: Build log: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/25382-glory-of-the-seas-medium-clipper-1869-by-rwiederrich-196 Finished build: Build log: of 1/128th Great Republic: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13740-great-republic-by-rwiederrich-four-masted-extreme-clipper-1853/# Current build(On hold): Build log: 1/96 Donald McKay:http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/4522-donald-mckay-medium-clipper-by-rwiederrich-1855/ Completed build: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/gallery/album/475-196-cutty-sark-plastic/ The LORD said, "See, I have set (them) aside...with skills of all kinds, to make artistic designs for work in gold, silver, and bronze, to cut and set stones, to work in wood, and to engage in all kinds of crafts." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladimir_Wairoa Posted April 15, 2021 Share #790 Posted April 15, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, rwiederrich said: Isn't that cool...she's taken you over....hasn't she? McKay ships are amazing and doing the historical research makes it all the more fun. Thanks again. Rob well being from coutry in what perimeter only " cutty sark was known as clipper" i never heard of american clipper till than - which wasnt wooden vessel for the start...missing epitome of what wooden clipper era meant i missed. i admire wooden vessels much more and final mastering of wooden craft and clippers of america is unsurpassed obviously . There is so much to learn and appreciate from design, carpentery, wood cabinetry, glorious style and modernity of wooden building...fantastic... Edited April 15, 2021 by Vladimir_Wairoa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClipperFan Posted April 15, 2021 Share #791 Posted April 15, 2021 1 hour ago, rwiederrich said: 1/96 if that is OK for me..not sure about Rich. I'm sure it will be OK too....I'll try to get his feedback. OH I understand about the book...the copy I had him sign had great value to me...even before he signed it. I plan on getting another copy anyway for myself and having him sign that too. I can't thank you enough Vlad. Rob Vladimir, you can make mine 1:96th too. This is just so incredibly exciting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwiederrich Posted April 15, 2021 Author Share #792 Posted April 15, 2021 20 minutes ago, ClipperFan said: Vladimir, you can make mine 1:96th too. This is just so incredibly exciting! Exactly. Now I need to get the strake material and what I plan on using for decking. Rob Quote Current build: Build log: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/25382-glory-of-the-seas-medium-clipper-1869-by-rwiederrich-196 Finished build: Build log: of 1/128th Great Republic: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13740-great-republic-by-rwiederrich-four-masted-extreme-clipper-1853/# Current build(On hold): Build log: 1/96 Donald McKay:http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/4522-donald-mckay-medium-clipper-by-rwiederrich-1855/ Completed build: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/gallery/album/475-196-cutty-sark-plastic/ The LORD said, "See, I have set (them) aside...with skills of all kinds, to make artistic designs for work in gold, silver, and bronze, to cut and set stones, to work in wood, and to engage in all kinds of crafts." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClipperFan Posted April 15, 2021 Share #793 Posted April 15, 2021 1 hour ago, rwiederrich said: Exactly. Now I need to get the strake material and what I plan on using for decking. Rob Rob, maybe you could ask Ed T who's done the magnificent "Young America" build, where he gets his supplies from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClipperFan Posted April 15, 2021 Share #794 Posted April 15, 2021 2 hours ago, Vladimir_Wairoa said: well being from coutry in what perimeter only " cutty sark was known as clipper" i never heard of american clipper till than - which wasnt wooden vessel for the start...missing epitome of what wooden clipper era meant i missed. i admire wooden vessels much more and final mastering of wooden craft and clippers of america is unsurpassed obviously . There is so much to learn and appreciate from design, carpentery, wood cabinetry, glorious style and modernity of wooden building...fantastic... Vladimir, At one time American Clippers were revolutionary concepts to the rest of the nautical world. For Centuries, literally Great Britain had a stranglehold Monopoly on shipping Tea from China. That business was the 'East India Tea Company.' They set what can only be called a leisurely pace. So leisurely in fact that every night they would take in all the sails and simply drift. When England finally revoked the Monopoly laws in the 1850s and allowed foreign competition, American Clippers brought Chinese Tea to market in a revolutionary short time. This stunned British Merchants which scrambled to catch up. Tragically USA's horribly cataclysmic Civil War destroyed America's dominance when Confederate Raiders destroyed so many of our fast sailing ships. America never recovered from that event. If you want to learn about the many incredibly beautiful American Clippers, Google 'Lars Bruzelius' for his magnificent resource of dozens of amazing American Clipper Ships which dwarfed their British counterparts. Vladimir_Wairoa 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladimir_Wairoa Posted April 15, 2021 Share #795 Posted April 15, 2021 (edited) 21 minutes ago, ClipperFan said: Vladimir, At one time American Clippers were revolutionary concepts to the rest of the nautical world. For Centuries, literally Great Britain had a stranglehold Monopoly on shipping Tea from China. That business was the 'East India Tea Company.' They set what can only be called a leisurely pace. So leisurely in fact that every night they would take in all the sails and simply drift. When England finally revoked the Monopoly laws in the 1850s and allowed foreign competition, American Clippers brought Chinese Tea to market in a revolutionary short time. This stunned British Merchants which scrambled to catch up. Tragically USA's horribly cataclysmic Civil War destroyed America's dominance when Confederate Raiders destroyed so many of our fast sailing ships. America never recovered from that event. If you want to learn about the many incredibly beautiful American Clippers, Google 'Lars Bruzelius' for his magnificent resource of dozens of amazing American Clipper Ships which dwarfed their British counterparts. Thank for inside Richard. I already stumbled to his website so i will be checking on it. I am finally after 2 years of longing getting book from Crothers american build clipper ship on my birthday so i am over the mood to be able study that one in winter for start. Edited April 15, 2021 by Vladimir_Wairoa add Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwiederrich Posted April 15, 2021 Author Share #796 Posted April 15, 2021 1 hour ago, ClipperFan said: Rob, maybe you could ask Ed T who's done the magnificent "Young America" build, where he gets his supplies from. I can tell you...he milled it all from larger stock....every last piece. Yeah.....now you see what we're up against..... Rob Quote Current build: Build log: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/25382-glory-of-the-seas-medium-clipper-1869-by-rwiederrich-196 Finished build: Build log: of 1/128th Great Republic: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13740-great-republic-by-rwiederrich-four-masted-extreme-clipper-1853/# Current build(On hold): Build log: 1/96 Donald McKay:http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/4522-donald-mckay-medium-clipper-by-rwiederrich-1855/ Completed build: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/gallery/album/475-196-cutty-sark-plastic/ The LORD said, "See, I have set (them) aside...with skills of all kinds, to make artistic designs for work in gold, silver, and bronze, to cut and set stones, to work in wood, and to engage in all kinds of crafts." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClipperFan Posted April 16, 2021 Share #797 Posted April 16, 2021 4 hours ago, rwiederrich said: I can tell you...he milled it all from larger stock....every last piece. Yeah.....now you see what we're up against..... Rob Rob, I don't mean to insult your intelligence but Model Expo has all sorts of Ship modeling resources, including various strips of wood for planking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwiederrich Posted April 16, 2021 Author Share #798 Posted April 16, 2021 (edited) 57 minutes ago, ClipperFan said: Rob, I don't mean to insult your intelligence but Model Expo has all sorts of Ship modeling resources, including various strips of wood for planking. I know...and I'm not insulted. BlueJacket..sells planking from their kits separately...you can buy in bulk from even model railroading outfits. I'm thinking I'm going to use my maple veneer and cut them into 1/16" planks. They go on easier and they conform far better to the curves. Ed actually cut all his small planks from a block of wood...like a 4X4...... Rob Edited April 16, 2021 by rwiederrich Quote Current build: Build log: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/25382-glory-of-the-seas-medium-clipper-1869-by-rwiederrich-196 Finished build: Build log: of 1/128th Great Republic: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13740-great-republic-by-rwiederrich-four-masted-extreme-clipper-1853/# Current build(On hold): Build log: 1/96 Donald McKay:http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/4522-donald-mckay-medium-clipper-by-rwiederrich-1855/ Completed build: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/gallery/album/475-196-cutty-sark-plastic/ The LORD said, "See, I have set (them) aside...with skills of all kinds, to make artistic designs for work in gold, silver, and bronze, to cut and set stones, to work in wood, and to engage in all kinds of crafts." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladimir_Wairoa Posted April 16, 2021 Share #799 Posted April 16, 2021 I have recently planked 18 century frigate Guys, with all the hot bending and tapering. advantage of it is no sanding needed no mess but its tedious. all to measured and i have iron bender for violin making so it wa OK. but i think its not something that suits Robs quick approach so each to his own same thickness of planks i intend to use for glory. its 5 mm planks. TheAuthorsDaughter and etubino 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClipperFan Posted April 16, 2021 Share #800 Posted April 16, 2021 8 hours ago, rwiederrich said: I know...and I'm not insulted. BlueJacket..sells planking from their kits separately...you can buy in bulk from even model railroading outfits. I'm thinking I'm going to use my maple veneer and cut them into 1/16" planks. They go on easier and they conform far better to the curves. Ed actually cut all his small planks from a block of wood...like a 4X4...... Rob Rob, I think we can all agree that Ed is an artisan whose productions will last for Centuries and would rightly be at home in any Museum like the Smithsonian. I'm impressed with your "Great Republic" and can't wait to see this 3rd effort of "Glory of the Seas." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClipperFan Posted April 16, 2021 Share #801 Posted April 16, 2021 5 hours ago, Vladimir_Wairoa said: I have recently planked 18 century frigate Guys, with all the hot bending and tapering. advantage of it is no sanding needed no mess but its tedious. all to measured and i have iron bender for violin making so it wa OK. but i think its not something that suits Robs quick approach so each to his own same thickness of planks i intend to use for glory. its 5 mm planks. Vladimir, Wow! That's such beautiful work. So, is your day job merely crafting violins? Between you and Rob I feel like a toddler amongst Gods, when it comes to modeling skills. I would love to see the 18th Century vessel you're modeling too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwiederrich Posted April 16, 2021 Author Share #802 Posted April 16, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, Vladimir_Wairoa said: I have recently planked 18 century frigate Guys, with all the hot bending and tapering. advantage of it is no sanding needed no mess but its tedious. all to measured and i have iron bender for violin making so it wa OK. but i think its not something that suits Robs quick approach so each to his own same thickness of planks i intend to use for glory. its 5 mm planks. Great job Vladimir...clean work. I thought..Cutty Sark was your first ship model?...or was she your first clipper? Beautiful work. Rob Edited April 16, 2021 by rwiederrich Vladimir_Wairoa 1 Quote Current build: Build log: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/25382-glory-of-the-seas-medium-clipper-1869-by-rwiederrich-196 Finished build: Build log: of 1/128th Great Republic: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13740-great-republic-by-rwiederrich-four-masted-extreme-clipper-1853/# Current build(On hold): Build log: 1/96 Donald McKay:http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/4522-donald-mckay-medium-clipper-by-rwiederrich-1855/ Completed build: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/gallery/album/475-196-cutty-sark-plastic/ The LORD said, "See, I have set (them) aside...with skills of all kinds, to make artistic designs for work in gold, silver, and bronze, to cut and set stones, to work in wood, and to engage in all kinds of crafts." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwiederrich Posted April 16, 2021 Author Share #803 Posted April 16, 2021 2 hours ago, ClipperFan said: Rob, I think we can all agree that Ed is an artisan whose productions will last for Centuries and would rightly be at home in any Museum like the Smithsonian. I'm impressed with your "Great Republic" and can't wait to see this 3rd effort of "Glory of the Seas." Indeed...my first was a mod of an existing molded hull...my second was a test run to see the shape and accuracy of the hull Mike and his friend in Australia designed...that is why I used gypsum to sculpt the hull. Now I hope to begin again with a good foundation...based on far more extensive research...by a team of devoted Glory enthusiast's...to include the original Glory hound...Mike Mjelde. Rob Vladimir_Wairoa 1 Quote Current build: Build log: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/25382-glory-of-the-seas-medium-clipper-1869-by-rwiederrich-196 Finished build: Build log: of 1/128th Great Republic: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13740-great-republic-by-rwiederrich-four-masted-extreme-clipper-1853/# Current build(On hold): Build log: 1/96 Donald McKay:http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/4522-donald-mckay-medium-clipper-by-rwiederrich-1855/ Completed build: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/gallery/album/475-196-cutty-sark-plastic/ The LORD said, "See, I have set (them) aside...with skills of all kinds, to make artistic designs for work in gold, silver, and bronze, to cut and set stones, to work in wood, and to engage in all kinds of crafts." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwiederrich Posted April 16, 2021 Author Share #804 Posted April 16, 2021 (edited) One blaring issue I want to tackle with this new build....is. All these kit designs call for a pretty hefty keel. Cut from the same plywood the bulkheads are cut from. The only problem is, is the stem is not to scale. It is much too wide to be accurate. By reviewing the cutwater and stem of the Glory in her many photographs of them...you can see it is quite thin. 5"~6" probably. I'll most likely be adding the keel and stem after the hull is planked...and great care must be taken to fare in the bow and stern so as not to make the transition out of scale or unruly. Any input on this issue? Rob Edited April 16, 2021 by rwiederrich Vladimir_Wairoa 1 Quote Current build: Build log: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/25382-glory-of-the-seas-medium-clipper-1869-by-rwiederrich-196 Finished build: Build log: of 1/128th Great Republic: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13740-great-republic-by-rwiederrich-four-masted-extreme-clipper-1853/# Current build(On hold): Build log: 1/96 Donald McKay:http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/4522-donald-mckay-medium-clipper-by-rwiederrich-1855/ Completed build: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/gallery/album/475-196-cutty-sark-plastic/ The LORD said, "See, I have set (them) aside...with skills of all kinds, to make artistic designs for work in gold, silver, and bronze, to cut and set stones, to work in wood, and to engage in all kinds of crafts." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladimir_Wairoa Posted April 16, 2021 Share #805 Posted April 16, 2021 (edited) Thanks guys. I started woodworking with violins, than tried to my first ship - without any knowledge about ship modeling. - croziers hms terror. i never showed i to anyone and i dont intend to than i made 1:24 enormous cutty sark with same strategy knowing even less about modeling but in the process of it i jumped here on msw and shifted my approach so i started to observe what other ps are doing to make it easier for me. believe or not i managed to sell her so I can finance these hobbies easily. / which i would never attempt to with glory. hms winchelsea here on group project is my 3rd attempt. im near the wrap . next to be magnificent glory that i intend to dedicate to her a couple of years . i am basically novice and totally inexpereince in rigging - where Rob excels both in cleanlines and aesthetic mastery. in my view. ill try to find some photos of violin though. i also paint. that is my main hobby though, one day thinking of trIng maritime. i am focused portraits -= self taught though. thats about me. i think i have a video of making violin... few photos Edited April 16, 2021 by Vladimir_Wairoa add aaronc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladimir_Wairoa Posted April 16, 2021 Share #806 Posted April 16, 2021 1 hour ago, rwiederrich said: One blaring issue I want to tackle with this new build....is. All these kit designs call for a pretty hefty keel. Cut from the same plywood the bulkheads are cut from. The only problem is, is the stem is not to scale. It is much too wide to be accurate. By reviewing the cutwater and stem of the Glory in her many photographs of them...you can see it is quite thin. 5"~6" probably. I'll most likely be adding the keel and stem after the hull is planked...and great care must be taken to fare in the bow and stern so as not to make the transition out of scale or unruly. Any input on this issue? Rob Rob I will probably sand off the plywood keel to thin it. and will see if i can manage ˇ will be balck painted anyway i guess glorys hull was black. therefore i see no big issue here. there is already curvature underneath of athene feet laser cut and marking lines where ornamentals and navalhood exactly go with lines where stem thickens between navalhood and below ornamenta...i will stick with that personaly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladimir_Wairoa Posted April 16, 2021 Share #807 Posted April 16, 2021 1 hour ago, ClipperFan said: Vladimir, Wow! That's such beautiful work. So, is your day job merely crafting violins? Between you and Rob I feel like a toddler amongst Gods, when it comes to modeling skills. I would love to see the 18th Century vessel you're modeling too. haha interesting, i feel lik todler among you and Rob as well , when it comes to knowledge so there must be balance in the world. meaning i will always have a easy questions to ask... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClipperFan Posted April 16, 2021 Share #808 Posted April 16, 2021 1 hour ago, rwiederrich said: One blaring issue I want to tackle with this new build....is. All these kit designs call for a pretty hefty keel. Cut from the same plywood the bulkheads are cut from. The only problem is, is the stem is not to scale. It is much too wide to be accurate. By reviewing the cutwater and stem of the Glory in her many photographs of them...you can see it is quite thin. 5"~6" probably. I'll most likely be adding the keel and stem after the hull is planked...and great care must be taken to fare in the bow and stern so as not to make the transition out of scale or unruly. Any input on this issue? Rob Rob at 1:96th scale, 16" becomes 2". If you have enough of an indent into Bow, Keel and Stern, that should work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwiederrich Posted April 16, 2021 Author Share #809 Posted April 16, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, ClipperFan said: Rob at 1:96th scale, 16" becomes 2". If you have enough of an indent into Bow, Keel and Stern, that should work. ? Let me get that right. My great Republic was in 1/128...where 1/32"=1ft. So 1/96...3/16"=1ft? Or somewhere there abouts? I'm assuming the plywood used in making the bulkheads is about 3/16" thick. And if my calculations are correct...I will need to reduce the stem and stern boards by half.....to keep things in scale. One thing I dislike...is when a modeler(Myself included in the past) doesn't reduce the provided keel to keep it in scale...although every other aspect of their model is in scale. See what I mean from my own error...even though I had no choice to make this change with the Revell hull...it still looks out of scale and clumsy compared to the real ships stem. Rob Edited April 16, 2021 by rwiederrich Quote Current build: Build log: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/25382-glory-of-the-seas-medium-clipper-1869-by-rwiederrich-196 Finished build: Build log: of 1/128th Great Republic: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13740-great-republic-by-rwiederrich-four-masted-extreme-clipper-1853/# Current build(On hold): Build log: 1/96 Donald McKay:http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/4522-donald-mckay-medium-clipper-by-rwiederrich-1855/ Completed build: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/gallery/album/475-196-cutty-sark-plastic/ The LORD said, "See, I have set (them) aside...with skills of all kinds, to make artistic designs for work in gold, silver, and bronze, to cut and set stones, to work in wood, and to engage in all kinds of crafts." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlueJacket Posted April 16, 2021 Share #810 Posted April 16, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, rwiederrich said: ? Let me get that right. My great Republic was in 1/128...where 1/32"=1ft. So 1/96...3/16"=1ft? Or somewhere there abouts? A ratio of 1:128 is a scale of 3/32" = 1' A ratio of 1:96 is 1/8" = 1' Edited April 16, 2021 by MrBlueJacket corrected units Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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