Revenge by Meriadoc Brandybuck - OcCre - 1:85

[Meriadoc Brandybuck]

Looks much more the part after a day of sanding and negotiating with the gunports. 

Putty next. 

[Meriadoc Brandybuck]

Thanks for all the likes!

 

A quick update. Slow progress, as a few other interests have had to be dealt with; see below. 

 

Finished sanding and filling, and added the first wale. The “instructions” are now taken far less seriously. Then some other pursuits came up..

 

And got some attention..

 

A few more days left of finishing work on the Hornets, and I think I’ll put Dragon Quest and 1/700 waterline ships away for a long while and get back to my Elizabethan shipyard. 

 

 

QUESTION: I am having filler seep up through pinholes in the wales when I try to get the holes to close with drops of water. Anyone know of a workaround for this?

 

Meriadoc 

 

[Baker]

8 hours ago, Meriadoc Brandybuck said:

QUESTION: I am having filler seep up through pinholes in the wales when I try to get the holes to close with drops of water. Anyone know of a workaround for this?

If I understand correctly, I want to fill in the holes the pins have made.  I use Google translate, so a picture of the problem might be easier to understand for me.

Why not completely plank the hull first and then fill all the holes with filler.

 

And,
I think your first wale is not placed correctly

Look at the build from Jonathan

 

Ps,

Nice ships, planes and little feet 😉

 

 

[Meriadoc Brandybuck]

Backer- thanks for the kind comments!  Google translate seems to be working well for you.  Don’t trust it for translating Japanese though!

 

Heres my pinhole-putty issue:

See how the white putty has seeped up through the holes in the wale. 

About wale positioning- I’ll check some sources. This kit includes no actual plans, so I made some measurements and guessed. 

 

Meriadoc

 

[Baker]

I think that your filler is not waterproof and becomes liquid again when it gets wet. 

Are your wales "wet" when you glue and pin them?
Otherwise you have to bent them wet first, let them dry and then glue them on the hull.

 

The good news
Wales are usually painted black on the Revenge so you will not notice much of the filler that has come through the holes.

 

I hope this helps 

[Meriadoc Brandybuck]

An update- spring and summer were spent building 1/72 airplanes and playing Dragon Quest, in addition to attending to a certain baby. 

Now that it’s nice and autumn, it’s time for nautical hype and tall ships. 

The Revenge: I decided the wale wasn’t satisfactory, and removed it with some difficulty. Sanding to follow, and I think I’ll plank the sapelli next. 

 

Note that I stained the bulkheads to match the gunwales.. some side effects but it will work out better. I also sealed the dollar store putty with clear coat, and mean to stock some real putty soon. 

 

Below is a good overview of what my 2021 hobby efforts have amounted to thus far. 

 

-Meriadoc

 

[Meriadoc Brandybuck]

Second planking not going bad. 

 

Planked from the lower gunwales down to the main wale line. I found the best method around the bow curves is to CA a plank in position at the flat of the bow (only about 2cm worth) and once it’s secure, work around the curve with water and a hot iron. CA sections bit by bit as you can, and keep encouraging the plank with heat and moisture until it takes its shape. Starting midships and working forwards doesn’t seem feasible. 

 

Anyone know the correct cut of the garboard on galleons?

 

Criticism welcome! 

-Meriadoc

[Baker]

Nice work.

Planking,garboard..

Look at my Pelican build, i think from post 38 and further on.

[Meriadoc Brandybuck]

Second planking is finished, at least as far as the curvy tapery parts, and main wales have been wrestled into place.  Next is getting the upper works planked, waled, and finished, and finally to stick on the keel and posts for a complete hull. 

 

I stuck to the proper planking method whereby strakes never terminate into other strakes. It was quite a job tapering and laterally bending the planks at the bow. Sapelli does not like to make straight diagonal tapers. I had to use an extra sharp knife, a straightedge, and some finagling. Some of the little cracks will just have to be filled with slivers, but these problems are small enough not to be noticeable without close inspection.

I ran into the most awful woes of two consecutive types of putty failing due to water or heat or both, and eventually had to use some Tamiya polyester epoxy putty as it is heat and water proof and easily sandable. 

Photos of the epic struggle below..

 

Yellow Tamiya putty:

 

 

 

Detailed tapering measurements for the last plank: (Sticking sapelli to tape helps keep the wood from dancing while you record the measurements, and from splitting while you cut the taper)

 

The lateral bend:

 

 

Finally. 

 

Transom planked to receive the galleries, to help with upper wale placement. Stealers awaiting attention:

 

I think that was the hardest part. How’d I do?

 

-Meriadoc 

[Baker]

Very good  👍

[Meriadoc Brandybuck]

Why, hello!
I just wanted to reassure everyone that this build has not been abandoned. Over the last year I made some progress, getting the keel and beak and some of the trickier wales on. And the gallery. 

It’s hard to come back to this project now as I have evolved a bit as a modeler; I realize just how much of a “product” these kinds of kits are and how many corners they cut to make a kit cheap and attractive to lazy builders.  It may make business sense, and to be fair this is one of their older and cheaper kits. However it is important for us as modelers to unlearn the myth of straight-cut planking; and plywood has no business in our ship models. At least for the visible parts. 
Still, I mean to finish this kit, slowly, with some more research. I look forward to the rigging stages. For some reason that seems to be my favorite part. 
I’ll be trying to phase in more work on the Revenge as I bounce between a few paper models and scratch builds, none of which are in a huge hurry. 

So look forward to more, sporadic posts!

Long overdue,

Meriadoc

[Dicknummer922]

I am building the same model, and i am confused about the little boat. In the second picture i have to asssamble the deck, and in picture 5 and 6 the deck has vannished. Anyone has a clue?

[Meriadoc Brandybuck]

On 7/14/2024 at 3:40 AM, Dicknummer922 said:

deck

Hello, sorry for not seeing this earlier. 
 

The “deck” you refer to is just a base plate to hold the frames while you plank the boat. You’ll note little notches near the top of the frames. This is where you cut the boat free of the base when it’s done.

 

I haven’t tried this step yet, but I fully expect the plywood to break and crumble while trying to fair the frames. 
Good luck!

 

Meriadoc

[Dicknummer922]

Aha, thanks for the explanation! The plywood of the frames is indeed very fragile, especially when using clamps and elastic. I eventually switched from carpenter's glue to superglue, that went a lot better.