michaelpsutton2 Posted May 30, 2021 Share #1 Posted May 30, 2021 I have been looking for a bit now and have yet to find a contemporary picture of a sailing ship of the American Navy showing crowsfeet and euphroes. I realize they are seldom shown, but I find none. Were they used in the U.S. Navy? mtaylor 1 Quote Drown you may, but go you must and your reward shall be a man's pay or a hero's grave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted May 30, 2021 Share #2 Posted May 30, 2021 I always thought it was only the English who used them. Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ah100m Posted May 31, 2021 Share #3 Posted May 31, 2021 Several sources show their use on the USS Constitution, all three masts. They're on MY model, anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dziadeczek Posted May 31, 2021 Share #4 Posted May 31, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, mtaylor said: I always thought it was only the English who used them. I am building a French 74 guns ship 1:48 from J. Boudriot, and these items (# 10, 11) will be on the menu in the near future... Edited May 31, 2021 by Dziadeczek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted May 31, 2021 Share #5 Posted May 31, 2021 23 minutes ago, Dziadeczek said: I am building a French 74 guns ship 1:48 from J. Boudriot, and these items (# 10, 11) will be on the menu in the near future... Thanks for clearing that up on the French. I was wrong. Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelpsutton2 Posted May 31, 2021 Author Share #6 Posted May 31, 2021 (edited) I included them on several drawings without really thinking about it. But recently perusing old photographs I noticed there were none. Of course old photos mostly showing these vessels laid up in their old age lack many of the finer bitsof rigging they catrried when active. There are several photos of the 1840's sloops taken when they were training ships in the '70's & 80"s and I can't see any. Edited May 31, 2021 by michaelpsutton2 Quote Drown you may, but go you must and your reward shall be a man's pay or a hero's grave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted May 31, 2021 Share #7 Posted May 31, 2021 32 minutes ago, michaelpsutton2 said: I included them on several drawings without really thinking about it. But recently perusing old photographs I noticed there were none. Of course old photos mostly showing these vessels laid up in their old age lack many of the finer bitsof rigging they catrried when active. There are several photos of the 1840's sloops taken when they were training ships in the '70's & 80"s and I can't see any. I did some looking at my info.... French frigates didn't seem to have them according the plans. I have to wonder if there was any reason why they're on some and not on others. I don't recall seeing them on US frigates either so maybe they're a ship of the line only thing? Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawk1313 Posted May 31, 2021 Share #8 Posted May 31, 2021 If I remember correctly ( dangerous ) the U.S. Navy stopped using them sometime before the War of 1812. -Hal mtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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