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Sliding anchors go way back. This one (Which I copied for Yenikapi 12) was found on the Yassi Ada wreck from the seventh century. But Permanent stock would be fine too.

Dick

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Current build: 

 Le Gros Ventre 1:48 POF   http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/564-le-gros-ventre-by-woodrat-scale-1-48-pof-1767-french-exploration-vessel/

 

Past builds:

Mycenaean War Galley by Woodrat - 1:48 - Shell first Plank on Frame:https://modelshipworld.com/topic/33384-mycenaean-war-galley-by-woodrat-148-shell-first-plank-on-frame

Venetian round ship 14th century by Woodrat fully framed - 1:40 scalCompleted

https://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/17991-venetian-round-ship-14th-century-by-woodrat-fully-framed-140-scale

Venetian Carrack or Cocha 1/64 by woodrat   https://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/4915-venetian-carrack-or-cocha-164-by-woodrat        completed

United States Frigate Essex 1:64 POF   http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/4496-usf-essex-by-woodrat-scale-1-64-fully-framed-from-takakjian-plans/ - completed 

Yenikapi12 by Woodrat - 1/16 scale - a small Byzantine merchant vessel of the 9th century

https://modelshipworld.com/topic/23815-yenikapi12-by-woodrat-116-scale-a-small-byzantine-merchant-vessel-of-the-9th-century-finished/

The Incredible Hulc by Woodrat - an experimental reconstruction of a mediaeval transport

https://modelshipworld.com/topic/25641-the-elusive-hulc-by-woodrat-finished-a-speculative-reconstruction-of-a-mediaeval-merchantman-132-plank-on-frame/

 

 

 

Location: Perth, Western Australia

 

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Working on the bolt ropes and robands. (Took me 4 tries before I could cancel spell-correct. Roland's, ribands, you name it . . .)

 

Mizzen complete and sail curved to indicate the wind. Seems to have worked. 

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And now to do the same for the middle and fore mast sails.

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Steven

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Steven, looks great! Fine work with the thread. This has reminded me that many yards were depicted as two-piece in ancient ships. For my galley I just tapered a dowel down to form the yard. Should I make it two-piece too? It would be an interesting detail. I'm surprised at how little overlap there is between the two sections, though.

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Thanks everyone for the likes.

 

Ian; again I think you'd have to look at contemporary pics to work out whether to make your yard in two pieces.

 

The first consideration would be - how long was the yard? Lateen yards, because they are on a diagonal, are longer than square yards. Could your galley's yard be made from a single tree? Were trees available tall and thin enough?

 

The second consideration - did contemporary artists accurately depict the yard, or just portray it as a single piece because they were (a) lazy or (b) ignorant?

 

Here are some contemporary pics of Roman ships under sail. I'm afraid you'll have to draw your own conclusions.

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Villa of the Augustinian era. Palazzo Massimo Museo Nazionale Romano                    Mosaic in Qasr, Libya c. 540 C.E.

Yard indeterminate                                                                                                           Single yard

 

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Roman mosaic of Odysseus, 2nd century CE, displayed at the Bardo Museum in Tunisia. - single yard.

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Fragment of the mosaic showing the Roman galley, 2nd century CE. Single yard. And note the nice awning.

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Two Ancient Roman mosaics from the Villa del Casale, Sicily. Single yard.

 

Third question - lot of the time they are shown under oars with the mast lowered- do you even need to show her under sail? 

 

Steven

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Oh, and regarding the overlap in the yard - I agonised over that for quite a while. Though there are certainly some examples with greater overlap, I based it on the majority of contemporary illustrations and several modern photos.

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Thank you Steven. No, she won't be under sail but I do want to have the mast and artemon up, with the sails furled ie what we'd call buntlines all hauled, as if they are rowing and hoping for a fair wind soon. I think their sails went up like Roman blinds, nestled within the loops of the buntlines; at least, that's what I intend to do.

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