Jump to content

HM Bark Endeavour by KJackson - OcCre - 1:54


Recommended Posts

ADDING WATERWAYS

Before adding the waterways, I added the stern supports following the instructions.

 

PXL_20220508_040920314.thumb.jpg.85a8d346c44dd0fad55f18dc3a3791e4.jpg

 

I measured the waterways at 3mm, to accommodate the 2mm bulwark cladding down the line.

 

PXL_20220508_013306259.PORTRAIT.thumb.jpg.cf5bdff1b8cdbe36713fbe2be8c7152c.jpg

 

To do so, I used a pacer (sharper line than a pencil!) and my flexible ruler to carefully mark and then cut along the outermost edge of all decks with my no. 10 blade.

 

PXL_20220508_013511474.thumb.jpg.2be89455bce6271ba9c80f000d62da2e.jpg

 

PXL_20220508_013904244.thumb.jpg.d6b1a36b22b9169a258fc5820713a3c7.jpg

 

PXL_20220508_014731967.thumb.jpg.d54a1a71d3973889f350a80d5310fa5e.jpg

 

I used some leftover 0.6mm cladding I had from my Bluenose build for the waterways. They have a more pronounced grain than the OcCre kit (and will need to be judiciously sanded).

 

I gave my airbrush a whirl with the planks - I haven't airbrushed in nearly a decade, and then that was for larger areas (bicycle, motorbike). It'll take me a little bit to remember.

 

PXL_20220508_042851407.thumb.jpg.fa18ed6609924b503992479f8d186cce.jpg

 

Clamping the waterways on the quarter and upper decks were easy enough as they had very slight curved that could be maintained with slow clamping. The forecastle deck was much trickier.

 

PXL_20220508_052314464.thumb.jpg.965fef9ec7924a1726a14d959ecd04d3.jpg

 

PXL_20220508_072411653.PORTRAIT.thumb.jpg.0b6d2f80152b4e94aff55a9cf3cb56a6.jpg

 

At first I tried bending the wet plank to shape, but as I'm attempting to bend very thin (0.6mm) wood lengthways, it goes against what the wood wanted to do.

 

I gave up bending and instead elected to cut small segments against the curve of the bow.

 

PXL_20220509_101817530.thumb.jpg.6e082e0d1aabc35f939f51d88e09de01.jpg

 

I then sanded the waterway down to help mask the joins. While I was at it, I decided to sand and fill the small gaps between planking and waterway.

 

Rex my dog was very interested.

 

PXL_20220509_103248906.thumb.jpg.c8f86ee70efdc102ef74fcb1aa6786fe.jpg

 

PXL_20220509_104519791.PORTRAIT.thumb.jpg.40de3aaafe2da9c073eb4cd1c7ab536d.jpg

 

I then repainted (!) carefully. The end result are waterways that are much smoother and better finished flush against the planking of the deck.

 

PXL_20220509_105448053.PORTRAIT.thumb.jpg.eff533e0652b0a1643c6ec6e88f85c74.jpg

 

PXL_20220509_114853860.thumb.jpg.78a454ab9b16b2966d33d472436f0c18.jpg

 

And in closing, my dog wanted attention - say hello to Rex, the good boy!

 

PXL_20220509_103300314.PORTRAIT.thumb.jpg.3220cf2f0ebf7d65a3dc70ee79c23557.jpg

 

Kristyn

Edited by KJackson
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Confusing terminology..

 

Do the instructions call what you are referring to as the waterway.

It looks like what you are working on is the margin planking.

 

image.png.fb8160fc3cbe7b30eca3fc7cbc38652f.png

The waterway is actually a feature that covers the gap between the margin planking and the bulwarks..

Here is an image from Chuck's Cheerful..  On a model it would be similar to the quarter-round molding  used between a wall and the floor..

 

image.png.e686e52e2a16cc73cd16199d7debf401.png

 

Here is a diagram provided by Allan in another topic.  On a model, the waterway is typically formed with a strip that I have defined with the red lines.

 

“Indecision may or may not be my problem.”
― Jimmy Buffett

Current builds:    Rattlesnake (Scratch From MS Plans 

On Hold:  HMS Resolution ( AKA Ferrett )

In the Gallery: Yacht Mary,  Gretel, French Cannon

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Ah, thank you so much Gregory!

 

I'm still stumbling over the terminology and appreciate the clarification. It can be hard to look up terms when you're not sure what you're looking for.

 

Your description is really helpful and I'll commit it to memory ☺️

 

On the topic of terminology ... You wouldn't happen to know what the "wall" demarcating between the upper deck and either the forecastle or quarter deck is called? On the Endeavour the wall is just aft of the main hatch.

 

Kristyn

 

 

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I think either one is just called a bulkhead, and identified by location, i.e. " quarter deck bulkhead "..

Someone more knowledgeable may come along and elaborate..

“Indecision may or may not be my problem.”
― Jimmy Buffett

Current builds:    Rattlesnake (Scratch From MS Plans 

On Hold:  HMS Resolution ( AKA Ferrett )

In the Gallery: Yacht Mary,  Gretel, French Cannon

Link to comment
Share on other sites

FITTING THE OUTER BULWARKS

I've spent the last few days slowly fitting the outer bulwarks of the Endeavour. This was a job of patience as I left each section to dry for a day at a time before sanding down.

 

The bulwarks that wrapped around the bow needed to be bent. I've tried a lot of methods, but have found some good success using a hair straightner. All I need to do is soak the wood for about an half hour before drying the pieces and bending them between the tongs.

 

PXL_20220510_111431210.thumb.jpg.c1f7b1f618efb0f1359129c35acfadcb.jpg

 

PXL_20220510_111604244.thumb.jpg.8b81c20bf76390bb12e46a9adfa1de2c.jpg

 

PXL_20220510_112009466.thumb.jpg.120b67bfccf0966a582c9d459151940e.jpg

 

I used a lot of clamps and elastic bands to ensure as tight a fit to the decks and bulkhead tops as possible.

 

PXL_20220510_115944561.thumb.jpg.3df0c0d0858ae312cf867432cb48098c.jpg

 

I found the fit between the bow bulwarks and the upper deck bulwarks as quite loose, so I applied a mix between sawdust and Titebond and Model Lite filler to smooth over these gaps.

 

Before sanding the joins:

PXL_20220510_115931229.thumb.jpg.7b91543b6bebf7c0259f608afd12b736.jpg

 

After sanding the joins:

PXL_20220512_123913133.thumb.jpg.297af96aa562710a4d18cb1249ce0e98.jpg

 

PXL_20220512_123813980.thumb.jpg.763a0eba16ec2558c129f7ab25a458b5.jpg

 

The visible filler is no issue as the bulwarks will be planked over and painted, the most important thing is that they're smooth as a baby's behind.

 

I took the opportunity while sanding down the filler to remove the laser cut charcoal edge on the frame. These will of course be sanded significantly more when fairing the hull prior to planking.

 

PXL_20220512_111458859.thumb.jpg.cc73348d912e7ea094b4750e5da7853a.jpg

 

PXL_20220512_121635670.PORTRAIT.thumb.jpg.16c3aefc2b63ca8c2733bb04f25ec232.jpg

 

PXL_20220512_121704007.PORTRAIT.thumb.jpg.1aca934ac183d9590679e02aaecd84d8.jpg

 

PXL_20220512_121947431.PORTRAIT.thumb.jpg.32e36ca42d656ee6c6a13ff0e969b40c.jpg

 

PXL_20220512_121839045.PORTRAIT.thumb.jpg.3672692e8b5af2f1c497107092600e10.jpg

 

Next is onto cladding the inside of the bulwarks!

 

Kristyn

Edited by KJackson
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Hi Kristyn

You really didn’t need to fill those gaps in the outer bulwarks, they will be covered by the planks you add later. On the subject of the hull planking, the instructions tell you to use small nails on the first layer of planking, but that first layer of planks needs to be heavily sanded to get a smooth base for the second layer of thinner planks. Those nails make sanding very difficult. Use dress making pins to hold the planks down until the glue dries then remove them with pliers.

cheers

Steve

Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1:51 (Eaglemoss part work)

Previous Builds: USS Constitution (Revell plastic) HMS Victory 1:96 (Corel) HMB Endeavour 1:60 (AL)

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Thanks, Steve -

 

I have some push pins I've acquired from a hobby store I intend to use once I get to planking the hull.

 

FINISHING THE INNER BULWARKS

Today I finished cladding the inner bulwarks, first a 2mm thick cladding, and finally a red painted 0.6mm cladding.

 

The bow inner bulwark 2mm cladding needed bending, and the whole exercise took time and patient clamping.

 

I soaked the 2mm thick cladding and intended to use my plank bender to let them dry in shape... But the bender was a little small and I found it just as effective to clamp them wet in place against the bow curve to dry. This method ensured the curve was exact.

 

PXL_20220514_042520034.thumb.jpg.0795a71cec3fc287eaa10291d5f2175f.jpg

 

PXL_20220514_043338291.PORTRAIT.thumb.jpg.5fa89a6211e3b268801d33663a312ae8.jpg

 

PXL_20220514_043357973.PORTRAIT.thumb.jpg.48901ea8e63f45876d97ae274621da85.jpg

 

Once dried, I then glued into place. I've read glueing down a wet plank can lead to gaps (noting that wet wood is expanded and shrinks back when dry), so didn't glue in place until the plank was bone dry.

 

PXL_20220514_065543304.PORTRAIT.thumb.jpg.9081cec21d5be71dfa5edc056a316b34.jpg

 

PXL_20220514_035753843.PORTRAIT.thumb.jpg.15359ce26584fe74f32a76be01d8caae.jpg

 

At each stage of cladding, I scored along the top of the bulwark with a scalpel to take the top off, then filed and sanded the top down to be even.

 

PXL_20220514_065850715.PORTRAIT.thumb.jpg.9fe5bcf0a23e068d2a364839f6b1d13a.jpg

 

PXL_20220514_070027090.PORTRAIT.thumb.jpg.e89e0f979db47ed248ab2edecae0879f.jpg

 

PXL_20220515_031252277.thumb.jpg.611637e1745a23abe09e978f681f64d3.jpg

 

Once the first cladding was completed, I painted and clad the thinner 0.6mm wood, following the same process.

 

PXL_20220515_035108017.PORTRAIT.thumb.jpg.88c1d47ee658be502276daa2cc415b47.jpg

 

The final result:

PXL_20220515_063143431.PORTRAIT.thumb.jpg.ca61e34c095dee06f9bddb93c72a7d44.jpg

 

I can see planking the hull coming up soon! Very excited to be reaching this stage!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

BUILDING HATCHWAYS

After finishing the inner bulwarks, I installed the helm port, main and forecastle hatchways.

 

The OcCre kit provides limewood for these hatches that are painted with a walnut stain. I substituted the kit provided wood for walnut from Bus Nosen I have in my spares drawer.

 

PXL_20220515_065311943.thumb.jpg.099e5054d3255e41e42cefd659b951d0.jpg

 

I had to mill down some of the strips to their relative sizes, giving the table saw a nice workout.

 

PXL_20220515_083929287.thumb.jpg.cc9ab69f8aa6aa7932cd2ec9fa596e09.jpg

 

To make the walnut stand out, I dipped each piece in Tung oil before drying with a towel.

 

PXL_20220515_082722973.thumb.jpg.6fe8b397cfb7cc3d7b47e7fdd9af9474.jpg

 

I elected for a basic butt (square) for the forecastle hatch and helmport, and bevelled the edges slightly.

 

PXL_20220515_093433920.thumb.jpg.fd1c0c8c437a57ba9e6906cac88ab18a.jpg

 

PXL_20220515_093527002.thumb.jpg.4c74340e932bcf8d628092186572a3e6.jpg

 

When installing on the deck, I made sure to push each piece up against a scrap piece of squared wood.

 

PXL_20220515_091348097.thumb.jpg.934de2d5c263045271d4105119710424.jpg

 

PXL_20220515_092130017.thumb.jpg.db7934a91660e0237965a68028566e6e.jpg

 

PXL_20220515_095821223.thumb.jpg.1f7f93376c4e8b0174fd7471c6658313.jpg

 

I opted for a half lap joint (I think?) for the main hatchway.

 

I did this because I found the kit instructions for the main hatchways deviated from Marquardt's rendition. Marquardt's shows a single, slightly tapered hatch with no bevelling - I opted to follow his interpretation.

 

PXL_20220515_122838735.thumb.jpg.f4015cfb98a0ba26c8dd3bce2e258180.jpg

 

I put the main hatchway together on my cutting mat before installing it on the deck.

 

PXL_20220515_122921225.thumb.jpg.bd091b15e245263e6fe2ac26290d9849.jpg

 

PXL_20220515_132353312.thumb.jpg.7b92e6b3798e93cb34c2dad4e6634422.jpg

 

PXL_20220515_132337346.thumb.jpg.a9eba2127a7b53112e40b53be832c5ca.jpg

 

I'm planning to file it down so it's not as high and follows the slight camber of the deck. I need to wait for tomorrow to do this so the glue had the opportunity to cure.

 

PXL_20220515_133309320.thumb.jpg.cdb1117d1f79a615c6635b162d27c796.jpg

 

PXL_20220515_133909910.thumb.jpg.8f83b41712becd10735b8e857ef17feb.jpg

 

PXL_20220515_133601033.thumb.jpg.3eed2aaa07f0a7c8846111763aec31da.jpg

 

Next time I'll install some more walnut and think on the main hatchway gratings or covers.

 

Kristyn

Edited by KJackson
Link to comment
Share on other sites

HATCH GRATINGS

As I mentioned at the start of this build, one of the reasons I am enamored with this hobby is not only the build but the research. I'm taking a moment to pause and check my assumptions on the hatchways.

 

The OcCre kit recommends that the hatchways are covered with hatch boards and rings... which is the same as recommended in Marquardt's book. I'm really hesitant on this because, to be honest, I find a lot of rings installed in this fashion seem oversized.

 

So I'm deviating for the main hatchway - instead opting for a hatch grating. I like visualising my Endeavour "smooth sailing" in the warm waters up and down the Eastern Australian coast, where it'd be warm and relaxed and hatchways would be open to the fresh air and sun.

 

The replica has gratings installed and so too do some of my inspiration builds on here (like Steve's Endeavour).

 

681752317_Screenshot_20220516-1858332.thumb.png.940c0a30b6d548b725d27deb2ea6fda8.png

 

Anyway, this is a long winded way of saying I've ordered some 1.19mm cherry gratings (inc camber) from Syren. With the jig, I can push these gratings as wide as 2mm.

 

Some research and this seems reasonable scale wise for the 1:54 I'm working to.

 

So I'll be pausing on adding the covers until they arrive from overseas! So onwards in the meantime.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Ah yes, the main hatch.  Some ideas for you. I had go at a couple of different versions as you can see in these pics. Notice I installed another hatch to the hold on the lower deck. I wanted my hatch to be open so you could see there was another deck below and another hatch so I settled on a grating over only half of the hatch. Yes the Occre rings are ridiculously large so I made my own from copper wire and did the hatch like Marquardt shows in AOTS, didn't like it. A grating looks more suitable for an 18th century ship.

If I could go back and do mine again I would do it different, with more curvature as in the other photos

And I hope you don't do the skylight like Marquardt shows, that is more like a 19th century clipper skylight and contradicts the description given when Endeavour was refitted (the description is in Parkins book) The replica vessel skylight is correct.

Jan 2011 019.jpg

Main Hatch1 (640x478).jpg

Main Hatch2 (640x478).jpg

Main Hatch3 (640x478).jpg

Main Hatch4.jpg

gIMG_0565.jpg

wolverine2 - Copy.jpg

gIMG_0567.jpg

IMG_7327 (600x800).jpg

Edited by shipaholic
more info

Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1:51 (Eaglemoss part work)

Previous Builds: USS Constitution (Revell plastic) HMS Victory 1:96 (Corel) HMB Endeavour 1:60 (AL)

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Thanks, Steve! This collection is a very good selection of example hatch coverings.

 

Now excuse me as I shamelessly steal some of the photos from your build...

 

post-819-0-40593400-1428728125_thumb.jpg.620c2b54e727855e1327376703a7b520.jpg

 

I like the main hatch in your Endeavour build, and now you mention it I think it's because it's not entirely closed. Not only does this add a bit of variety for the eye, but for me this means I'll be able to better show off those treenails I was so chuffed about on the lower deck and the lower hatchway.

 

When you installed the lower hatchway what did you do to the lower deck to prepare? In the OcCre kit, the lower deck sits directly on the bulkheads. Did you cut the bulkhead away where this lower hatchway sits? Or because it's so far down, I guess no one would be able to see through that second layer of gratings...

 

And yep, I get your point on the skylight. Quick peruse sees a lot of variation on the Endeavour models in MSW. By comparison your build and the replica (last two photos) show a grating style cover.

 

20220410_185421.thumb.jpg.0977b1415c05e4516671f03939afa07c.jpg.3c09ff89aa1948398d63cd5fe3c5a17e.jpg

5aef69ce98231_SkylightCapstan.jpg.fe350ca1564ffc643b7a68dc9a43a76a.jpg.8838982becf9bb97a6535e0bcd52af1e.jpg

post-819-0-50273300-1427531043_thumb.jpg.99bd6120a56453d8e837b706b45cbfb3.jpg

Screenshot_20220519-200551.thumb.png.7cab2b188e20e21a843927c9521aae2f.png

 

Kristyn

Edited by KJackson
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Yes I did my skylight (or companion as it is called on the draughts) similar to the replica vessel. If you look at the table of works carried out during the refit on page 72 of Parkins books it says "Companion on the Quarter Deck to be framed with sash light all round & sash & Grating on the top" which describes the replica and mine, but not the other ones such as Marquardt's version.

The hatch on the lower deck of my model is a dummy one, I just glued the frame onto the deck, and painted the inside black under the grating.

Edited by shipaholic
corrected

Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1:51 (Eaglemoss part work)

Previous Builds: USS Constitution (Revell plastic) HMS Victory 1:96 (Corel) HMB Endeavour 1:60 (AL)

Link to comment
Share on other sites

INSTALLING THE LOWER DECK MAIN HATCHWAY

Off the back of our discussions, this morning I fitted the hatchway on the lower deck. I measured this hatchway the same dimensions as the one on the upper deck, at 50x40mm.

 

Before fitting I checked out what these look like below decks in the Endeavour replica. I must be throwing the web stats for their virtual tour out of whack the number of times I've accessed this!

 

Screenshot_20220521-152802.thumb.png.989546f6ff31374638c491154cb1b97c.png

 

1340099378_Screenshot_20220521-1531442.png.d15ac679a92415003714644e9f0ae659.png

 

I kept this hatchway shallower than the one on the main deck, electing 45° mitre joints for the outer wall and a simple square butt for the inner.

 

PXL_20220515_103923493.thumb.jpg.3151b59481c7c9d8f894ab0660f020fa.jpg

 

The inner wall I used 0.5mm scrap mahogony strips, which I then dipped in Tung oil (after this photo).

 

PXL_20220521_034231770.thumb.jpg.f03968387d0a064310dedb43281f1868.jpg

 

I measured the inner part of this hatchway and follow Steven's approach for a false hatchway, I masked it off and painted the inside black.

 

PXL_20220521_032336960.thumb.jpg.67b4d3b62aea4ef4ca835ebd16e2a860.jpg

 

PXL_20220521_032200695.thumb.jpg.2fa216bb9410b62adadd7d982a6e9a7f.jpg

 

I clamped the outer wall down with some scrap wood so it would dry flat.

 

PXL_20220521_040016523.thumb.jpg.d3210481207228079b314c20783c0638.jpg

 

While waiting for it to dry I painted the caps on the forecastle and quarter deck walls following the Endeavour replica's scheme.

 

Screenshot_20220521-122401.thumb.png.7dfe96e319f697cf276b4a4b5229b2c9.png

 

PXL_20220521_030627109.thumb.jpg.cfe8e44a8ee23fb10364c35bf0e0198a.jpg

 

The cap for the quarter deck required some notches to be cut in each side so the beam could sit in place against the inner bulkwarks.

 

PXL_20220521_040125446.thumb.jpg.7fc80ab26116305ee9d319aa24836be3.jpg

 

When I installed this beam, it made a satisfying "click" into place.

 

I then clamped everything judiciously, using thick scrap wood to push the beams snug against their respective deck.

 

PXL_20220521_041645152.thumb.jpg.946c9820822e4930ad2a17ac9bf4f083.jpg

 

PXL_20220521_041653924.thumb.jpg.5bd06492d5f8d86d672706d5388eb670.jpg

PXL_20220521_041811533.jpg

Edited by KJackson
Link to comment
Share on other sites

MAKING STAIRS

The OcCre instructions call for stairs leading down from the forecastle hatchway.

 

Much later in the build I'll be building more stairs. The kit suggests to build stairs down from the main hatchway, which I won't follow.

 

Screenshot_20220521-154222.png.6e4e36b75a91b5ca98cef4c35921aa2e.png

 

Screenshot_20220521-153925.png.58b88260aeac699f45b2870f21d20c04.png

 

The OcCre kit has the stairs only go down halfway to the lower deck, before they recommend you install a lump of wood (part 43) to meet the floor. I figure if you're going to go to the trouble of making stairs, you may as well finish the job. I'll deviate from the kit instructions slightly.

 

I checked out what the stairs look like on the replica. A couple of notes from me - the steps themselves are rounded towards the front (mental note) and the stairs throughout are dark wood painted (also noted). There are also some rope rails which I won't include as they won't be visible.

 

Screenshot_20220521-152636.thumb.png.d150449e9bd5392ca1025c2a3ffc23bf.png

 

Screenshot_20220521-153226.thumb.png.2dc7512eb6dfe5688c41167cabdd23a0.png

 

I read up from The Anatomy of Nelson's Ships on how best to make stairs, but then I checked the parts that came prefabricated with the kit, and was pleasantly surprised.

 

I used my table saw to cut steps 12mm wide.

 

PXL_20220521_061615907.thumb.jpg.3829f40bd6d3605a9ad5b03a910e595c.jpg

 

PXL_20220522_005713813.thumb.jpg.04c42c899becd2eeb11b57875fcfa4ee.jpg

 

I filed down each step to show the curved front, and used a quick jig of square edges to keep the whole construction straight during dry install.

 

PXL_20220522_011659135.thumb.jpg.8bdcbdfb2d7a3573f491f749a33e1787.jpg

 

PXL_20220522_011848419.thumb.jpg.78a9eb252878035e54351a82a3189270.jpg

 

PXL_20220522_012400745.thumb.jpg.ea8806b217c2f7a1387da6a4c034588e.jpg

 

PXL_20220522_012736184.thumb.jpg.b3cd5f0ab78890399a4950570c8dd84e.jpg

 

A brush of Titebond on each side and I left to dry.

 

I used a mahogany wood stain from Admiralty paints to darken the wood. I'm going to be honest - the finish on this is not ideal, especially when compared to using real mahogony for the hatchways so recently.

 

PXL_20220522_024141033.thumb.jpg.d843476c634e868d8e0d144dc7fae0cf.jpg

 

PXL_20220522_024557447.thumb.jpg.cd0aa313a07eb443ce36f3d4b4f57079.jpg

 

Given these stairs will be so imperceptible under the gratings of the forecastle hatchway, I'll leave this as is. However, for the stairs between the quarter and upper deck (much more visible), I'll swap out and scratch build using mahogony instead of the kit supplied wood and stain.

 

A few pics of the stairs installed.

 

PXL_20220522_031059495.thumb.jpg.fb1463db94cd06bb029254539295cd7f.jpg

 

PXL_20220522_031043253.thumb.jpg.cab0a79d6ec86786f8adef233b6203cf.jpg

 

PXL_20220522_030820558.thumb.jpg.934922489ebb2654c79ff0653422d8ef.jpg

 

For all that and the below view (further eclipsed by a grating) is all we'll see of these stairs once the hull is closed.

PXL_20220522_031003674.thumb.jpg.d89c5a45b1f80661aa89473347835521.jpg

 

Most importantly, I had a tonne of fun building these. This sort of miniature careful assembly is my favourite part of the build process. It makes me excited in the future (once I have more experience) to try building a ship that includes these neat internal hull details and furnishings.

 

Kristyn

Edited by KJackson
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Hi Kristyn

Good job on the stairs.

That block under the stairs is a ridiculous idea by Occre. On the real Endeavour there was a different height deck under the forecastle, so instead of the block I put another deck under the forecastle and a ladder instead of stairs, which I thought was more appropriate for a small scuttle.

extra deck.jpg

IMG_0044 (800x600).jpg

 

Dec 19 2010 002 (800x598).jpg

Edited by shipaholic
another pic added

Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1:51 (Eaglemoss part work)

Previous Builds: USS Constitution (Revell plastic) HMS Victory 1:96 (Corel) HMB Endeavour 1:60 (AL)

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Gosh, it is VERY tempting to follow suit, Steven and add that extra layer of decking before I close the hull up.

 

Given I'm waiting on Chuck's gratings to arrive from overseas there's no pressure to push on with planking the hull....

 

Again, I'm going to steal from that amazing build of yours! Many thanks!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

STARTING FAIRING THE HULL

By far and away my least favourite part of building - due entirely to the sheer amount of sawdust this creates - I started fairing the hull this afternoon.

 

Everything in the study is now covered in a thin layer of sawdust and the Admiral has called me to their Cabin for a sure dressing down!

 

PXL_20220522_052214899.thumb.jpg.1773bb2eee6663ba22f62b440f7c5485.jpg

 

The mess aside, with the help of my Dremel and a sanding block I took to this process with zeal.

 

PXL_20220522_044255605.thumb.jpg.88098ffda3d5ea6f63b6796e27cff2bd.jpg

 

I'm sufficiently happy with where I've landed for the day.... but much like anything good, I'll revisit over the following days. I want to double check and ensure smoothness, particularly on that bow, as good preparation here will make or break the final product.

 

PXL_20220522_061445905.thumb.jpg.f7b3326500399f37d70bba8fe57abc51.jpg

 

PXL_20220522_061501761.thumb.jpg.db478e4215f7a806f8c7bd1bef84d77e.jpg

 

The buff bow on this bark mean that the instructions call for a filler block to be sanded down to the bow and no first layer of planking used... I wonder whether it'd be tenable to plank the whole first layer.

 

I've linked a post from another OcCre Endeavour build (from kiwiron) that shows what I'm talking about. Here, you can see the first planking layer ends before the bow.

 

Example hull planking from Kiwiron's Endeavour build
 

Will wait and see what approach is best for this kit after some research.

 

I will also look to drill and add some holes in the keel to support the stand supports. I'm still doing some background research on the best steel rods or screws to use for this, but this will be a separate post.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

ADDING A TWEEN DECK UNDER THE FORECASTLE DECK

I amended the forecastle hatchway stairs to drop down to a scratch built tween deck (I think tween deck is right?) between the lower and forecastle decks.

 

To do this I rigged up a deck platform from spare 5mm boxwood sheet.

 

PXL_20220522_065920480.thumb.jpg.70a1a888ce87ea66c758e5389d694d32.jpg

 

PXL_20220522_075436301.thumb.jpg.57ef7965c032f9455755a2ecb268f310.jpg

 

I added some support beams underneath and two feet to which the deck is attached.

 

PXL_20220522_080729997.thumb.jpg.22bbe0b0ac12ac71b378c56f72c552d2.jpg

 

To keep these feet in place, I used cut nails and Titebond glue.

 

PXL_20220522_081745030.thumb.jpg.39bd55d40a0466f39de1c0b05668a6c6.jpg

 

PXL_20220522_081810796.thumb.jpg.9d8e19a8fde2b1064c4bc78594b5ab36.jpg

 

I planked the tween deck, making sure to cut out the foremast hole.

 

PXL_20220522_081340997.thumb.jpg.aae995550f0ddd4b2c550b7510e5bfb8.jpg

 

I installed it in place and added the trimmed ladder. Et voila!

 

PXL_20220522_085420798.thumb.jpg.dbe4cb73acf8ef25fe3428b3b102b6f1.jpg

 

PXL_20220522_090201962.thumb.jpg.88658bfddfdc25faa0958c8e9f99f73c.jpg

 

PXL_20220522_091421237.thumb.jpg.885db16f1230ad4b42934c282cfb2617.jpg

 

Now when I peer down the forecastle hatchway I'll see the deck.

 

PXL_20220522_090112643.thumb.jpg.5affb4661599dcd015fcf078d19b5a7f.jpg

 

Thanks for the idea, Steve!

Edited by KJackson
Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 2 weeks later...

LINING OFF THE HULL

Last week between work rearing its ugly head and a getaway trip with friends, I didn't get to my model. What I did do was reading and research in preparation for the hull planking.

 

I used Marquardt's drawing of the external hull to count the total number of planks needed for the ship - 38 for those from the quarter deck and 35 for those from the upper and forecastle deck.

 

PXL_20220531_091054142.thumb.jpg.5f17521044c8dd5a2f154ff7e506508a.jpg

 

I then measured the distance from top of bulwark to keel on each bulkhead to figure out the required taper. This ranged from 5.5mm at its widest to 4.6mm at its narrowest (before the bow).

 

I followed Chuck's planking instructions and drew up a planking fan and transferred each measure onto the bulkhead in question using a marked strip. This helps me plan what the planking will look like.

 

PXL_20220531_102425520.thumb.jpg.27979bb817502ef38ebd8d98feb56f83.jpg

 

PXL_20220531_103018012.thumb.jpg.6012ab04e4ad93ec2dbb1a388755e616.jpg

 

PXL_20220531_103152674.thumb.jpg.457d9842d4fa86d90cea80dc52a9e096.jpg

 

Please note that this is the first time I've tried this approach; my previous ship was all "plank and taper as I go and hope it all works out". So keep this in mind as reading!

 

I get the second layer of planking so this one has a good bit of leniency in case things go skewiff. However, it's fun to try more advanced techniques.

 

PXL_20220531_104708604.thumb.jpg.a1de31ad8daa6b341402d23d52a8d00f.jpg

 

I toyed with cutting the planks to 120mm lengths on the first layer. After playing around, however, I decided to just do full strips as this will help with the overall smoothness of this layer before the final planking.

 

I previously bought some screw plank clamps for my first model which I employed to clamp the first plank to the hull: the line of the wale.

 

PXL_20220531_114328165.thumb.jpg.40d74c7279d5336f4f7b38178f9afe7f.jpg

 

PXL_20220531_114308100.thumb.jpg.49994e26edf50107380ded08a8e2aebb.jpg

 

And that's it for the night! I haven't even done the starboard side yet! I'm trying to take this slow and methodically as I know good set up will help with the final result.

 

AN ODD COINCIDENCE...

I went on holiday with friends last week and the farmhouse we stayed in was evidently the home of a similar historic maritime hobbyist.

 

On display included a fully fledged cat o' nine tails, ship's compass and light. The cat was quite ominous in person!

 

PXL_20220527_110217920.thumb.jpg.dafb9e5699d39ca65da0e4258a77fa0d.jpg

 

PXL_20220527_110546800.thumb.jpg.f955f0d97ab24a5434e6662a2a11bded.jpg

 

PXL_20220527_110600235.thumb.jpg.1d4315c45d1473ac9f78262a6a54e2d6.jpg

 

PXL_20220527_110604679.thumb.jpg.c36a57adbded4a3739fa0aea451f3b1c.jpg

 

They also had a great library which included a very cool book on the lower decks by Brian Lavery. This author, on my inspection, has written not one but several interesting books on model ship construction for ships of the 17th to 19th centuries.... to one day add to my growing collection!

 

PXL_20220528_000427757.thumb.jpg.d62f05a2e108ea5de9b5b12957a54128.jpg

Edited by KJackson
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Just a little more detail to Ponder.  You may run into a problem using the planking fan if you don't have wider planking stock than that provided in the kit.

 However you can work around this by using stealers at the stern.  Marquardt's drawing shows at least two stealers and they can be used to accommodate the increased space compared to midships.

 

image.jpeg.b8650dae09b96075960283f22015e4fe.jpeg

I've highlighted the two stealers I see. The stealer makes two planks become three.

 

At the other end, there is less space, and tapering will take care of that.  However, you don't want the planks at the stem to be too narrow.  I believe no more than half a full size plank.

This can be mitigated with a ' drop ' plank.  I don't know if Marquardt's drawings show any of those.

 

image.jpeg.e0692af9e8897ff4630497927f79726a.jpeg

Here is an example from Chuck's Winchelsea. Two planks become one.

 

Please forgive me if I have made undue assumptions about your knowledge or lack thereof regarding stealers and drop planks.  ( Some references refer to drop planks as stealers also. )

Edited by Gregory

“Indecision may or may not be my problem.”
― Jimmy Buffett

Current builds:    Rattlesnake (Scratch From MS Plans 

On Hold:  HMS Resolution ( AKA Ferrett )

In the Gallery: Yacht Mary,  Gretel, French Cannon

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Hi Kristyn

You shouldn't get to fussy about the first layer of planks because they won't be seen and you will sand them a lot and probably need to use some filler on them where there are dips. They are just a base for the thinner second layer planks. Those thin second layer planks on the sides are the the ones to concentrate on and they are tricky ones because they are thin and don't like lateral curvature without kinking. The darker wood second layer planks below the main wales don't too matter much either because once varnished its difficult to see the individual planks.

Cheers

Steve

Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1:51 (Eaglemoss part work)

Previous Builds: USS Constitution (Revell plastic) HMS Victory 1:96 (Corel) HMB Endeavour 1:60 (AL)

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Thanks, Gregory and Steve -

 

I see the stealers - thanks, Gregory. My knowledge is theoretical only at this point and I haven't done them in practice!

 

To Steve's point, I'm very glad this will be the first (and hidden!) layer of planking. I'm going to try my hardest to make it look good purely so I can get better at planking from a technical point of view. At the end of the day I'm treating it as a dressed rehearsal for the final event.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 hours ago, KJackson said:

I'm treating it as a dressed rehearsal for the final event.

Practice, practice practice!

“Indecision may or may not be my problem.”
― Jimmy Buffett

Current builds:    Rattlesnake (Scratch From MS Plans 

On Hold:  HMS Resolution ( AKA Ferrett )

In the Gallery: Yacht Mary,  Gretel, French Cannon

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
×
×
  • Create New...