molasses Posted September 25, 2013 Share #1681 Posted September 25, 2013 Kind of jumping the gun, Jan. You are correct, but you should wait for confirmation. Euphrates and her four sisters, built in 1866, could transport up to 1200 troops and families to or from India in 70 days. Serapis once transported the Prince of Wales for a state visit to India in 1875. They all remained in service until the mid 1890's. Jumna continued in service as a coal hulk (C110) until 1922. Malabar became the base ship in Bermuda, renamed HMS Terror. The training base itself became a "stone frigate" named HMS Terror when the ship was sold for breaking in 1918. The dock in Bermuda where Malabar/Terror was anchored was called Malabar. Once you realized the vessel was a troop transport, it was easy. The Euphrates-class was the only class of troopships, all others were individual ships. By WW1, the Royal Navy had subsidized the construction of passenger ships that could be conscripted when needed, a practice that continued through WW2. Of course, troop transportation is now done by air. Back to your ship, Jan, please excuse the interruption. Quote Current Builds: ESMERALDA Chilean Navy School Ship, 1/640 in a bottle insanity Dan Clapp's hard water race boat in a bottle Completed Build: Prairie Schooner OGALLALA 1/96 in a bottle Research Project: Cruizer-class Brig-Sloops "Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." - Benjamin Franklin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molasses Posted September 25, 2013 Share #1682 Posted September 25, 2013 It's the tug Holmvik (1916). Found it on a Dutch website, it took me a while to figure out what "sleepboot" means. Dave Quote Current Builds: ESMERALDA Chilean Navy School Ship, 1/640 in a bottle insanity Dan Clapp's hard water race boat in a bottle Completed Build: Prairie Schooner OGALLALA 1/96 in a bottle Research Project: Cruizer-class Brig-Sloops "Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." - Benjamin Franklin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted September 26, 2013 Share #1683 Posted September 26, 2013 It's Holmvik, yes. In the Netherlands better known under her current name 'Furie'. She was restored form an old and worn wood-tugging ship from the sweish waters into a Dutch seagoing tug, becasue of her role in a film on the topic. She is therefore still around as an example of the last Dutch steampowered seagoing tugs. Jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molasses Posted September 26, 2013 Share #1684 Posted September 26, 2013 Thank you, Jan, I don't read Dutch so wasn't sure I even had the name right. Name the Ship: Image is cropped and slightly retouched to remove identifying flags. In spite of her appearance she was a commercial vessel. Good luck! Dave Quote Current Builds: ESMERALDA Chilean Navy School Ship, 1/640 in a bottle insanity Dan Clapp's hard water race boat in a bottle Completed Build: Prairie Schooner OGALLALA 1/96 in a bottle Research Project: Cruizer-class Brig-Sloops "Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." - Benjamin Franklin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molasses Posted September 28, 2013 Share #1685 Posted September 28, 2013 Two days have passed and no guesses so it's time for another clue. Don't give up! Dave Quote Current Builds: ESMERALDA Chilean Navy School Ship, 1/640 in a bottle insanity Dan Clapp's hard water race boat in a bottle Completed Build: Prairie Schooner OGALLALA 1/96 in a bottle Research Project: Cruizer-class Brig-Sloops "Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." - Benjamin Franklin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggebigge Posted September 28, 2013 Share #1686 Posted September 28, 2013 Diana? Quote ..HMS victory by muggebigge ( jotika/caldercraft) Motoryacht by muggebigge (freebuild) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntonyUK Posted September 29, 2013 Share #1687 Posted September 29, 2013 Hi. Is it the Brooklyn ?? Regards Antony. Quote Best advice ever given to me."If you don't know ..Just ask. Completed Mayflower Completed Fun build Tail boat Tailboat Completed Build Chinese Junk Chinese Pirate Junk Completed scratch built Korean Turtle ship 1/32 Turtle ship Completed Santa Lucia Sicilian Cargo Boat 1/30 scale Santa Lucia On hold. Bounty Occre 1/45 Completed HMS Victory by DeAgostini modelspace. DeAgostini Victory Cross Section Completed H.M.S. Victory X section by Coral. HMS Victory cross section Completed The Black Pearl fun build Black Queen Completed A large scale Victory cross section 1/36 Victory Cross Section Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molasses Posted September 29, 2013 Share #1688 Posted September 29, 2013 Not Diana or Brooklyn. The same company owned Diana and this ship but Diana was decades earlier. Re-posting the image to this page. Quote Current Builds: ESMERALDA Chilean Navy School Ship, 1/640 in a bottle insanity Dan Clapp's hard water race boat in a bottle Completed Build: Prairie Schooner OGALLALA 1/96 in a bottle Research Project: Cruizer-class Brig-Sloops "Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." - Benjamin Franklin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRJ Posted September 29, 2013 Share #1689 Posted September 29, 2013 Now you have me totally flummoxed. (1) The flag you show was the continental navy flag from 1775 (2) Commercial vessels with a nelson pattern were obviously post 1805 - most famously the blackwall frigates of 1840-1850, although this one looks more like very early 19th century. Perhaps your ship has the same name as a ship from the original Continental Navy? Cheers, TJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRJ Posted September 29, 2013 Share #1690 Posted September 29, 2013 An afterthought... Unless you wanted to point at a ship called Washington Cheers, TJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molasses Posted September 30, 2013 Share #1691 Posted September 30, 2013 TJ: The flag is not early Continental Navy. It was proposed for that purpose, but the red and white striped rattlesnake flag with the motto "Don't Tread On Me" was the one most often used. Besides, it was already in use and had been for hundreds of years with the canton reflecting the current English/British flag and with several variations in the number and pattern of stripes. Getting closer! Dave Quote Current Builds: ESMERALDA Chilean Navy School Ship, 1/640 in a bottle insanity Dan Clapp's hard water race boat in a bottle Completed Build: Prairie Schooner OGALLALA 1/96 in a bottle Research Project: Cruizer-class Brig-Sloops "Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." - Benjamin Franklin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egkb Posted September 30, 2013 Share #1692 Posted September 30, 2013 Looks like a 'later' East India Company flag.. but don't quote me on that guys Eamonn Quote Current Build : HM Schooner Ballahoo In the Pipeline : HM Cutter Sherbourne, HM Mortar Convulsion, Emma C Berry & C18th English Longboat.. Eventually That Is..🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted September 30, 2013 Share #1693 Posted September 30, 2013 (edited) Wiki says that it is the flag of the Honourable East India Company after 1801. Quite a lot of checkered frigates over there.... Jan Edited September 30, 2013 by amateur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntonyUK Posted September 30, 2013 Share #1694 Posted September 30, 2013 (edited) Hi. The Hindostan. Look in Wikipedia . Regards Antony. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Hindostan_(East_Indiaman).jpg Edited September 30, 2013 by AntonyUK Quote Best advice ever given to me."If you don't know ..Just ask. Completed Mayflower Completed Fun build Tail boat Tailboat Completed Build Chinese Junk Chinese Pirate Junk Completed scratch built Korean Turtle ship 1/32 Turtle ship Completed Santa Lucia Sicilian Cargo Boat 1/30 scale Santa Lucia On hold. Bounty Occre 1/45 Completed HMS Victory by DeAgostini modelspace. DeAgostini Victory Cross Section Completed H.M.S. Victory X section by Coral. HMS Victory cross section Completed The Black Pearl fun build Black Queen Completed A large scale Victory cross section 1/36 Victory Cross Section Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molasses Posted September 30, 2013 Share #1695 Posted September 30, 2013 Not Hindostan. Confirming this is an Honourable East India Company ship. This ship shows all the characteristics of the Blackwall Frigates (except size) and her launch pre-dates the first of them by less than 5 years. This ship has something in common with one of my previous entries in this game, something generally considered unique. Don't give up yet. Dave Quote Current Builds: ESMERALDA Chilean Navy School Ship, 1/640 in a bottle insanity Dan Clapp's hard water race boat in a bottle Completed Build: Prairie Schooner OGALLALA 1/96 in a bottle Research Project: Cruizer-class Brig-Sloops "Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." - Benjamin Franklin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted October 3, 2013 Share #1696 Posted October 3, 2013 Something in common that is unique.... Quite a contradiction, isn't it ? There are loads of frigates painted around 1830..... Jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molasses Posted October 3, 2013 Share #1697 Posted October 3, 2013 It doesn't appear that this ship will be identified so I'll end the frustration. It's the East Indiaman Euphrates, same name as the troopship entered my last time around. She was launched in 1835, the date on the painting by Samuel Walters. She foundered in 1868. Link: http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/14803.html Name the Ship: This one should be easier to find. Image retouched to remove the name and owner markings. Also some harbor equipment that extended above the ship (and could be confused as part of her) have been removed. I left the objects that may or may not be a part of the ship (a tower amidship and a crane boom near the bow). Good luck! Dave Quote Current Builds: ESMERALDA Chilean Navy School Ship, 1/640 in a bottle insanity Dan Clapp's hard water race boat in a bottle Completed Build: Prairie Schooner OGALLALA 1/96 in a bottle Research Project: Cruizer-class Brig-Sloops "Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." - Benjamin Franklin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Wellington Posted October 3, 2013 Share #1698 Posted October 3, 2013 Columbia Highway? Quote Cheers, Jason "Which it will be ready when it is ready!" In the shipyard: HMS Jason (c.1794: Artois Class 38 gun frigate) Queen Anne Royal Barge (c.1700) Finished: HMS Snake (c.1797: Cruizer Class, ship rigged sloop) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molasses Posted October 3, 2013 Share #1699 Posted October 3, 2013 Not Columbia Highway. Quote Current Builds: ESMERALDA Chilean Navy School Ship, 1/640 in a bottle insanity Dan Clapp's hard water race boat in a bottle Completed Build: Prairie Schooner OGALLALA 1/96 in a bottle Research Project: Cruizer-class Brig-Sloops "Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." - Benjamin Franklin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Wellington Posted October 3, 2013 Share #1700 Posted October 3, 2013 Euphrates Highway? NMBROOK and egkb 2 Quote Cheers, Jason "Which it will be ready when it is ready!" In the shipyard: HMS Jason (c.1794: Artois Class 38 gun frigate) Queen Anne Royal Barge (c.1700) Finished: HMS Snake (c.1797: Cruizer Class, ship rigged sloop) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egkb Posted October 3, 2013 Share #1701 Posted October 3, 2013 Clever photos there from Dave... same name connection (I just found the same photo, reversed mind you , on Marine Traffic web page for the vessel) Nice! Eamonn Quote Current Build : HM Schooner Ballahoo In the Pipeline : HM Cutter Sherbourne, HM Mortar Convulsion, Emma C Berry & C18th English Longboat.. Eventually That Is..🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st george Posted October 4, 2013 Share #1702 Posted October 4, 2013 Michigan highway? Quote David Current Build : HMAV Bounty - Amati Next Build : 18th Century Longboat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molasses Posted October 4, 2013 Share #1703 Posted October 4, 2013 Euphrates Highway is correct, Jason. Eamonn, don't give away my tricks. I have to admit it's fun to fool Google Image. Your turn, Jason. egkb 1 Quote Current Builds: ESMERALDA Chilean Navy School Ship, 1/640 in a bottle insanity Dan Clapp's hard water race boat in a bottle Completed Build: Prairie Schooner OGALLALA 1/96 in a bottle Research Project: Cruizer-class Brig-Sloops "Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." - Benjamin Franklin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Wellington Posted October 4, 2013 Share #1704 Posted October 4, 2013 Thanks Dave...I had a 'duh' moment as soon as I found her sister ships with the "river" highway theme and your previous selections. Ok, this is probably too easy...but maybe not. Sorry for the quality of the picture, there aren't that many out there, but looking for the name of the ship in the center. There's a big clue (and a red herring) in the picture... Quote Cheers, Jason "Which it will be ready when it is ready!" In the shipyard: HMS Jason (c.1794: Artois Class 38 gun frigate) Queen Anne Royal Barge (c.1700) Finished: HMS Snake (c.1797: Cruizer Class, ship rigged sloop) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted October 4, 2013 Share #1705 Posted October 4, 2013 (edited) Hmmm.... the flag is the red herring. Dutch navy did not have this type of tuggies around. To the right are two Dutch minesweepers of the Dokkumklasse. However, in the middle..... The location is probably the Rijkswerf in Den helder... Your slightly uneven resize doesn;'t help either Jan Edited October 4, 2013 by amateur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted October 4, 2013 Share #1706 Posted October 4, 2013 btw the one in the foreground (woith the Dutch flag) is also a Dutch minesweeper, from the Alkmaar klasse But the one in the middle..... Jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Wellington Posted October 4, 2013 Share #1707 Posted October 4, 2013 Jan - lots of Dutch ships in the photo, but location is not in the Netherlands...the presence of the Alkmaar klasse should give you a clue to the role of the ship in question. Quote Cheers, Jason "Which it will be ready when it is ready!" In the shipyard: HMS Jason (c.1794: Artois Class 38 gun frigate) Queen Anne Royal Barge (c.1700) Finished: HMS Snake (c.1797: Cruizer Class, ship rigged sloop) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted October 4, 2013 Share #1708 Posted October 4, 2013 Minesweeping....yeah I already figured that one out Jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted October 4, 2013 Share #1709 Posted October 4, 2013 Ah well, now it's the question: minesweepers were build by the hundreds. Do you really want a name? Dokkum-class has 32, Alkmaar-class has 18, I guess yours has 10+ as well..... Jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Wellington Posted October 4, 2013 Share #1710 Posted October 4, 2013 I do - and for that the final clue, the ship is in her home port (at the time) - there is a more elderly ship in front of her that should give it all away Quote Cheers, Jason "Which it will be ready when it is ready!" In the shipyard: HMS Jason (c.1794: Artois Class 38 gun frigate) Queen Anne Royal Barge (c.1700) Finished: HMS Snake (c.1797: Cruizer Class, ship rigged sloop) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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