Bill97 Posted January 19 Author #1411 Posted January 19 (edited) I have one line left I am curious about. In the photos I attached there is line #1191. In the instructions it goes from the mizzenmast down to the bottom of a the flag pole. It looks like a stay of some sort. Not sure if standing rigging or running rigging, or a complete Hellerism! Any ideas? Edited January 19 by Bill97 Bill Morrison and Hubac's Historian 2 Quote
popeye2sea Posted January 19 #1412 Posted January 19 Hellerism. Omit. BTW, Line 1040, the main brace, should not go to the flag staff, either. Regards, Henry Ferrus Manus, Hubac's Historian and Bill Morrison 3 Quote Henry Laissez le bon temps rouler ! Current Build: Le Soleil Royal Completed Build: Amerigo Vespucci
Bill97 Posted January 19 Author #1413 Posted January 19 (edited) Thanks Henry. No. I rigged 1040 the way you guys advised a ways back in the blog. How about line #1114? It is the line that goes from the bottom corner of the sail. Heller has a block at the bottom of the flagpole that a tackle reeves through. The more I look at it the more I wonder. Edited January 19 by Bill97 Archi, Bill Morrison and Hubac's Historian 3 Quote
Ferrus Manus Posted January 19 #1414 Posted January 19 (edited) My guess would be to rerig just foreward of the flagpole. Someone correct me if i'm wrong, but i believe the same forces would be at play as with the main braces. Belay on a cleat. Edited January 19 by Ferrus Manus Hubac's Historian and Bill Morrison 2 Quote
Bill97 Posted January 20 Author #1415 Posted January 20 Ferrus that is exactly what I did. Bill Morrison, Hubac's Historian and Ferrus Manus 3 Quote
popeye2sea Posted January 20 #1416 Posted January 20 Bill, 1114 is the mizzen sheet and you are correct it would not be fastened to the flag staff. It would have an eyebolt in the deck for the lower block and a cleat for belaying. But, if you find moving it would be a hassle, leave it there. It is the least offensive of the three that Heller wants to belay on the flag staff. Regards, Henry Ferrus Manus 1 Quote Henry Laissez le bon temps rouler ! Current Build: Le Soleil Royal Completed Build: Amerigo Vespucci
Bill97 Posted January 20 Author #1417 Posted January 20 Here you can see what I did. I put an eyebolt on the starboard side of the flagpole for the lower block. I put another eyebolt on the port side of the flagpole to act as a tie down since I have exhausted mysupply of cleats. A rope coil will be added to the tie down later. Finished rigging the mizzenmast. popeye2sea and Bill Morrison 2 Quote
Ian_Grant Posted January 20 #1418 Posted January 20 Hard to see - does the flagstaff have a connection to the taffrail/transom, for support? Quote
Bill97 Posted January 20 Author #1419 Posted January 20 (edited) Ian I am not sure I know what a taffrail/transom is? According to Google it is: The handrail around the open deck area toward the stern of a ship. in the case of the SR there is no handrail, just the stern plate, I guess? At any rate the only connection point is the base to the deck. The red block in my photo. Edited January 20 by Bill97 Quote
Ian_Grant Posted January 20 #1420 Posted January 20 1 hour ago, Bill97 said: snip..snip> At any rate the only connection point is the base to the deck. The red block in my photo. Hard to believe there wouldn't be a brace to the stern plate at the upper end of the "lower flagstaff" (as opposed to the "flag top-staff"???). Even more basic question; why are there two parts to the flagstaff, with a little "cap", at all? Seems like another Hellerism to me. Perhaps Marc has some historical prints which shed some light on this. Quote
Bill97 Posted January 20 Author #1421 Posted January 20 (edited) At this point I believe that is a Hellerism I am going to live with since I have it in place and rigged around it. Doing an inventory of all the belay points to see if any empty ones are accidental omissions. So far so good. Just need to make the tackle between the fore and mainmast. Then several hours of delicate paint touch up, trimming loose ends and make a bazillion coils to hang at the belay points, add the lanterns to the stern, and make decisions about the boats. A lot to go but in the stretch, to use a Kentucky Derby term. Edited January 20 by Bill97 Hubac's Historian, popeye2sea and Bill Morrison 3 Quote
Bill97 Posted January 24 Author #1422 Posted January 24 Ok doing some cosmetic stuff. Added the lanterns to the stern which really finished it off nicely. Added the little swab buckets to each of the visible cannons. Started making the rope coils for the belay pins. Hubac's Historian and Bill Morrison 2 Quote
Ian_Grant Posted January 24 #1423 Posted January 24 Nice coils, Bill! I like your jig too; I painfully wrapped mine one at a time round the two ends of my tweezers .... how foolish .... 🙄 ... will do it your way next time. Ship looks great! Regards, Ian Hubac's Historian and Bill Morrison 2 Quote
Bill97 Posted January 25 Author #1424 Posted January 25 Thanks Ian. Still debating how to do the flags. Quote
Bill97 Posted January 25 Author #1425 Posted January 25 What do you guys think? I picked up this set of figurines from Artesania Latina. The L. Hermione La Fayette. The scale is slightly different than my SR. The scale of the set is 1/86 compared to the SR 1/100. The period of the set is mid 1700’s where the SR is late 1600’s. However the uniforms are still French naval officers and sailors. Thinking about using them as crew on my SR. Quote
Hubac's Historian Posted January 26 #1426 Posted January 26 For ease of consideration, Bill, consider the scale of SR to be 1:96, 1/8” to the foot. If the Hermione figures are 7/8”, or taller, they will not seem credible at all. Quote We are all works in progress, all of the time.
Hubac's Historian Posted January 26 #1427 Posted January 26 Prieser makes figures in 1:100 scale, but they have to be heavily modified to look like 17th C. sailors. I thought the old Revell Spanish/English galleon kits came with figures in 1:96. Might be worth seeing if you can locate those on the market somewhere. Quote We are all works in progress, all of the time.
Bill97 Posted January 27 Author #1428 Posted January 27 Marc the figurines are actually just a little short of 3/4” or 6/8”. At the 1/8”to the foot scale these crewmen would be just under 6’ tall. That would not be to far off would it? Bill Morrison 1 Quote
Hubac's Historian Posted January 27 #1429 Posted January 27 Actually, Bill, I would say that is quite reasonable. How do they look on deck? They’re cast metal? Quote We are all works in progress, all of the time.
Bill97 Posted January 27 Author #1430 Posted January 27 Yes Marc they are cast metal. I have not taken them out of the plastic yet in case I needed to return them. Will give a couple a visual test and let you know. Quote
Bill97 Posted January 27 Author #1431 Posted January 27 Marc I believe the size works OK. Bill Morrison and popeye2sea 2 Quote
Hubac's Historian Posted January 27 #1432 Posted January 27 Yeah, I’d say that is quite reasonable. Quote We are all works in progress, all of the time.
Hubac's Historian Posted January 27 #1433 Posted January 27 I like your barrel hoist, by the way. Bill Morrison 1 Quote We are all works in progress, all of the time.
Bill97 Posted January 28 Author #1434 Posted January 28 (edited) Thanks. I am learning to improvise 😊 Had to hang something from this tackle Edited January 28 by Bill97 popeye2sea 1 Quote
Veszett Roka Posted January 29 #1435 Posted January 29 Never ever step under a swung load sailor! If you feel the figurines a bit too tall, you might scrape/file a very little from their shoes - i think their feet a bit thick due casting, so it wouldn't harm them Ian_Grant 1 Quote
Bill97 Posted January 31 Author #1437 Posted January 31 Gentlemen here is a handful of pictures. Except for adding the crewmen and deciding if I am going to put the boats on board, I think my SR is very very close to finished! I am sure I will find a few threads here and there that need to be trimmed, belay points that still need a coil, and a touch up bit of paint here and there, but with all you guys I think I got it across the finish line. wvdhee, Bill Morrison, GrandpaPhil and 3 others 4 2 Quote
popeye2sea Posted January 31 #1438 Posted January 31 She looks fabulous. Great job! Regards, Henry Bill Morrison and Hubac's Historian 2 Quote Henry Laissez le bon temps rouler ! Current Build: Le Soleil Royal Completed Build: Amerigo Vespucci
Ian_Grant Posted January 31 #1439 Posted January 31 Build commenced: Oct 2022 Build completed: Jan 2024 Duration: 15 months Bill, you have to have set a record for this ship model build! She looks wonderful ... I love the sails partly brailed up ... excellent work. You are now a master. Congrats! What's next? A Roman galley perhaps? 😏 Bill Morrison and Hubac's Historian 2 Quote
Bill97 Posted January 31 Author #1440 Posted January 31 Thanks guys for your very kind compliments. It was truly a work of love I could not have even began to complete without each of you. If I scroll back through the build log I find times each of you provided me with the advice and encouragement I needed to accomplish a task I was struggling with. For all those times I am forever grateful. Marc early on I decided I could not replicate what you are doing, but continued to follow your build to pick up small bashes I could do here and there. I will continue to follow to the day your artistic masterpiece is revealed. Ian as always, starting with my Victory, you are the professor with the ton of knowledge I able to go to for the needed answer. And Henry, with your background, you always seem to be the guy with first hand helpful knowledge. That knowledge way back lead to moving the big knighhead that was positioned behind the foremast, and learning to mold and cast additions to the ship. Again thanks to each of you so much. I am in hope that my build log will be helpful to future builders of the SR but I have yet to find where the moderators have included it in the index. Quote
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