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Is spirit based tint for timber suitable for dyeing rigging


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No experimental data, but for natural fibers:  linen and cotton  -   an alcohol dye solution should work as well as an aqueous dye. 

It should be as dyed as it is going to be - just as soon as it has soaked in - that is fairly close to immediately.

A continuous pulley set up  -  feed spool - down to a pulley in the alcohol solution - back up to a take up reel - would probably work for a long rope.

 

For man-made synthetic polymer line,  my guess is that it might not take at all.

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Current:  

NMS

HMS Ajax 1767 - 74-gun 3rd rate - 1:192 POF exploration - works but too intense -no margin for error

HMS Centurion 1732 - 60-gun 4th rate - POF Navall Timber framing

HMS Beagle 1831 refiit  10-gun brig with a small mizzen - POF Navall (ish) Timber framing

The U.S. Ex. Ex. 1838-1842
Flying Fish 1838  pilot schooner - POF framed - ready for stern timbers
Porpose II  1836  brigantine/brig - POF framed - ready for hawse and stern timbers
Vincennes  1825  Sloop-of-War  - POF timbers assembled, need shaping
Peacock  1828  Sloop-of -War  - POF timbers ready for assembly
Sea Gull  1838  pilot schooner - POF timbers ready for assembly
Relief  1835 packet hull USN ship - POF timbers ready for assembly

Other

Portsmouth  1843  Sloop-of-War  - POF timbers ready for assembly
Le Commerce de Marseilles  1788   118 cannons - POF framed

La Renommee 1744 Frigate - POF framed - ready for hawse and stern timbers

 

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Thanks NRG. At this time I only need to color short lengths to be made into a few 'hanks' for hanging from the belaying pins. Stain before or after creating the hanks?

FYI I gave up building a Billings Bluenose 1:100 as when I finished the hull my eyes just aren't up to threading deadeyes etc so I bought a made display model and just want to add my own 'finishing touches' to add to the realism.

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The last model that I rigged was my 1:32 scale scratch built Longboat.  I rigged it with linen “ hard twisted Cuttyhunk”  line bought many years ago from Model Shipways.  I first tried dying it with cold water fabric dye.  I (thought) that I carefully followed Rob Napier’s excellent directions in his book about restoring a historic Dutch East Indiaman Model.  He used Cuttyhunk linen line too.  After drying the dyed line all of the dye wiped off.

 

Frustrated, I grabbed a bottle of Feibig leather dye.  It worked perfectly.  I believe that this is similar to the spirit based dyes that you are asking about.

 

Roger 

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Feibig is alcohol based, and I have used it successfully on polyester  line..  I would think using it before making the hanks would be best.

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18 hours ago, Roger Pellett said:

 I first tried dying it with cold water fabric dye.

I have been singularly focused on aniline wood dyes.  Until recently, I have been stuck on the deeper penetration of the water base dye.  Now, I am thinking that at model scale, the difference between alcohol and water depth  is insignificant.  Alcohol as fewer side effects - mostly being faster and not effecting the grain.

 

Rite type fabric dyes probably have to include colorfast - laundry effects.  Not a factor with a model.

 

The careless slang confusion between what a wood dye actually is and a wood stain actually is can result in failure if the wrong agent is used.

NRG member 50 years

 

Current:  

NMS

HMS Ajax 1767 - 74-gun 3rd rate - 1:192 POF exploration - works but too intense -no margin for error

HMS Centurion 1732 - 60-gun 4th rate - POF Navall Timber framing

HMS Beagle 1831 refiit  10-gun brig with a small mizzen - POF Navall (ish) Timber framing

The U.S. Ex. Ex. 1838-1842
Flying Fish 1838  pilot schooner - POF framed - ready for stern timbers
Porpose II  1836  brigantine/brig - POF framed - ready for hawse and stern timbers
Vincennes  1825  Sloop-of-War  - POF timbers assembled, need shaping
Peacock  1828  Sloop-of -War  - POF timbers ready for assembly
Sea Gull  1838  pilot schooner - POF timbers ready for assembly
Relief  1835 packet hull USN ship - POF timbers ready for assembly

Other

Portsmouth  1843  Sloop-of-War  - POF timbers ready for assembly
Le Commerce de Marseilles  1788   118 cannons - POF framed

La Renommee 1744 Frigate - POF framed - ready for hawse and stern timbers

 

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