Amerigo Vespucci by DanielD - OcCre - 1:100

[Mike Dowling]

Oh this is all much too clever for me!!! My lighting, if it still works after fairing/planking/sanding will be an all or nothing affair. I would love to see how you have wired everything and managed to hide it.

[Mike Dowling]

Neat solution to the light bleed. Wow you are using heavy wire, I hope you can fit it in everywhere.

I can't find any pictures under the transparent bit of that building either.

It seems a message I added got lost in the ether but your lighting project looks amazing, far too clever for a guy like me. My lighting if it works after all the fairing/planking/ sanding will be an all or nothing job!

[DanielD]

Good evening everyone, I’ve been working on miniature fire hose holders and I’ve discovered that, well…my fingers are just too big. 😳 After about 6 or 7 iterations, I think I finally have one I like. Now only about 5 more like this to make.

 

[DanielD]

Hello all, I spent today finishing up the fire house holders on the lower deck, and installing some railings. Here are a few updated pictures of the progress, some with lights on.

 

[DanielD]

Good evening everyone. I’ve been working on the starboard lower deck hallway with a couple of doors and other details. These pictures make everything look so big when actually we are talking about 35mm wide hallway so all these details are very small. The LEDs I’m using are just 3mm! Also for scale, the deck planks are 3mm wide.

 

[Mike Dowling]

Have you managed to work out if the ship has any navigation lights and if so do you know where they are? I can't find any.

[DanielD]

16 hours ago, Mike Dowling said:

Have you managed to work out if the ship has any navigation lights and if so do you know where they are? I can't find any.

Mike, I have searched for weeks to answer this very question. I am pleased to say that I now have the answer. The stern (white light) was easy to find in the virtual tour, link above somewhere in this log. There are actually 3 white and one amber light just above the small deck at the stern of the ship. Then there is also a lantern on the boom of the mizzenmast. Finally, there is a red (port) and green (starboard) light that is on the fore deck, just to the side of the chart room. To avoid copyright issues, I have only included a small section of the images, just enough to show what I found.

 

Edited March 5, 2023 by DanielD

[Mike Dowling]

Well done, I'm not surprised that I couldn't find them. Now the question arises, do I put them on or not?

[Mike Dowling]

I am sure that someone with greater knowledge of ships than I will know the answer. On each side of the ship there are two projections with steps leading up to them with something like large stanchions on the top. Would these be the navigation lights ? Or what else could they be?

[Mike Dowling]

This is a picture from the instructions of the above.

[Mike Dowling]

Here are a couple of better pictures.

[Keith Black]

 It could be an elevated compass? That's purely a guess on my part but that is one strange looking device.  

[DanielD]

4 hours ago, Keith Black said:

 It could be an elevated compass? That's purely a guess on my part but that is one strange looking device.  

Mike and Keith, this might help. The AV is of course a training ship and there are four of the stations on board to help train in navigation.

 

 

Edited March 5, 2023 by DanielD

[DanielD]

Mike, the problem I’m facing now is where to install the red/green marker lights. I haven’t been able to find any close up shots, and when I look on the wonderful virtual tour, I don’t see them where I think they should be. So options not visible are 1) under the compass station or 2) closer to the front of the chart room behind some storage bins???

 

[DanielD]

Mike, now that I look at the night images above, I’m certain the lights are installed behind the bins. In the images, the compass stations are visible and the marker lights are forward of that… 

[Mike Dowling]

Thanks for that Daniel although I'm not sure I understand what you mean about 'behind the bins'.

By the way I hope you don't mind all my posts, I am not trying to steal your posts but I hope they might help us both.

[DanielD]

6 hours ago, Mike Dowling said:

Thanks for that Daniel although I'm not sure I understand what you mean about 'behind the bins'.

By the way I hope you don't mind all my posts, I am not trying to steal your posts but I hope they might help us both.

The last image in this thread is of the starboard side of the ship from just outside the door of the chart room. On the right is the navigation station and on the left a chest like looking storage bin. Just behind that chest, from our point of view, is where I believe the navigation light is installed. Hope this helps.

Edited March 6, 2023 by DanielD

[DanielD]

Good evening mates, this weekend I started the planning of the aft deck. I drew the AV inspired pattern on the sub-deck and started planking. A long way to go, but it’s a start.

 

Edited March 6, 2023 by DanielD

[Mike Dowling]

Look what I found on a picture of the Mantua version! One navigation light!!

[DanielD]

Mike, now that I know where to look and what to look for, I have been finding the side marker lights in a lot of images. The main problem is that, unlike the image above by Mantua, the housing in all the pictures I have seen is black. This has a very profound effect of making it nearly invisible. And since it’s black, the details are obscured in all of the images. This is a close up zoom of an image I found, the best one that I’ve found, but still hard to make out what the housing looks like or how it’s attached to the ship. I believe it is similar to what Mantua has designed but painted in all black except for the lens when the light is on.

 

Edited March 7, 2023 by DanielD

[Mike Dowling]

Yes it's a problem Daniel but what I have done is make up a couple of housing like the mantua ones that will fit on the deck behind  bins as you suggested. It might not be totally accurate but I reckon it will do. I have really struggled to get all the wiring in place and secure before starting the hull planking but I am nearly there now. Just got to figure out how to wire the rear white light. I think I will have to cut a slot for the wires in the back false keel and hope I can push them in in the end so that they don't show.

 

[DanielD]

Mike, the daunting task of hiding the wires…I feel your pain. While we now have the location for the side marker lights, I see that it needs to hang off the side to allow room for the shrouds. Hard to see in this image, but it’s the best I’ve found so far.

Mike, do you have a build log for your AV?

Edited March 7, 2023 by DanielD

[Mike Dowling]

It does look like the mantua ones are on wire brackets putting the lights over the side but, the only way I can see to hide the wires is to put the lights on the deck. It might be cheating but will anybody really notice?

[Mike Dowling]

Sorry Daniel I missed your question. No, I haven't done a build log for mine as I'm not very good at them. If you don't mind I could probably put a couple of pictures of where I am at with mine on your log but I don't want to steal your posts any more than I already have.

[DanielD]

Here is the latest in my research on the AV side marker lights. It’s the clearest image to date I’ve found.

 

Edited March 7, 2023 by DanielD

[DanielD]

Mike, some of the wires can be visible, they are on the real AV. Just look at the aft marker light for one example. While I’ll do my best to hide as much of the wires as possible, I’m not worried about the ones close the the fixtures them selves. I’m also planning on the green/white/red night lighting the AV is famous for, those lights are strung together in series with the wires just laying on the deck surface. Let me see if I can find that image…

 

[DanielD]

Well mates, for those that have been following along as I have been looking for an image of the side marker lights on the AV…I have good news. Below is the very best image I have found including a blown up version with some photo enhancements. I don’t think I’ll find anything better. Now if I could only find some images of the bow bridge,

 

Edited March 10, 2023 by DanielD

[Mike Dowling]

Well done with your searches. At least we definitely know how and where they are fixed. I have modified my housing for the lights a bit but there is no way I can build the metal cage round them. But, all being well my AV should at least have the lights!

[DanielD]

Good evening mates, this week I’ve not posted on my progress because well, it’s kind of boring. Made good progress on the aft deck inlay. I’m happy with the outcome.

 

 

[DanielD]

And…this is how the aft deck will look with the hardware installed.