MajorChaos Posted April 20, 2023 #1 Posted April 20, 2023 The Flying Dutchman by OcCre doesn't look like it will be perfect scale model of the real ship. But the kit looks like fun. I've had this kit for many months, getting brave enough to start it. I'm not sure how many build log posts you are allowed to have at one time, unfinished build logs, but this one will be a 3rd. I didn't see a rule, so here it is haha. I only saw 2 build logs of this boat, I don't really use logs to see what to do, more so to see if what I did turned out like another's build. This kit included the LED lights and fancy base. They are normally extra, but many of the sellers such as Model Expo sells it as a bundle, it goes on sale from time to time. I bought it last fall at was seemed to be the initial offering for sale. It won't be perfect, it won't look perfect (my skills), but it will be fun. It will replace a cheap press cardboard 3D adult puzzle version in my office at work. This is the plan anyways. The boats in my office scratched the itch but they didn't take long to build. They were fun to build but it was all over in 3 or 4 hours. The is the first OcCre kit I've had, it looks nice the instructions seem good. It has a 50 video series on YouTube for the build. I'm sure many don't need something like that, but it looks like a good idea to help modelers get across the finish line. The videos are up to part 30 of 50, my personal goal is to make an attempt to catch up the videos are be a good bit done when it hits 50 of 50. Looking at the instructions and the video, its clear the video will include details the instructions do not. Such as 16 formers, the instructions only show 5 or so completed and it seems implied to go all the way to 16 at that stage, the video shows all of them done. OcCre kits seem really nice. The parts are packaged up nice in plastic bins, not a bunch of bags. One of the things that looks like a turn off is some of the lower decking, it looks like it would be flat, but mocking up the formers and the decking it will curve with the formers in 3 larger parts. It won't be flat if glued to the formers. No pictures of that part just yet. Mocking it up it looked like to followed the flow of the formers in a curve, certainly not flat if done correctly. Getting all the formers vertical and the decking it fit looks like a trick. Its partially open so careful glueing is a must. Many builders layout the kit parts and take a picture, if everyone thinks thats a good idea, I'll do it before I get farther. It has pre made sails, in white, not sure how they get them black just yet, but they look nice, and NOT making sales for this first big ship will be nice. Lines and rigging will be enough of a brain stretcher for me. This build log is mostly for accountability, so I might stick with it. I have a business trip next week so I only have Friday and Saturday this week to work it. GrandpaPhil, ccoyle and Baker 3 Quote In the shipyard: Syren 1:24 Medway Longboat 1742 Model Shipways 1:64 Bluenose Model Shipways 18th Century Longboat OcCre 1:50 The Flying Dutchman Completed: Model Shipways Lowell Grand Banks Dory Model Shipways Norwegian Sailing Pram Model Shipways Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack
MajorChaos Posted April 20, 2023 Author #2 Posted April 20, 2023 Mocking up the fit, I’ve wondered about this part for a long time, they are built flat but curve when mounted. So much of the pictures and other stuff make it look like it’s flat in 3 parts, it’s not. I’m excited to get this moving on! GrandpaPhil and BLACK VIKING 2 Quote In the shipyard: Syren 1:24 Medway Longboat 1742 Model Shipways 1:64 Bluenose Model Shipways 18th Century Longboat OcCre 1:50 The Flying Dutchman Completed: Model Shipways Lowell Grand Banks Dory Model Shipways Norwegian Sailing Pram Model Shipways Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack
Twokidsnosleep Posted April 21, 2023 #3 Posted April 21, 2023 I am in for moral support…and I want to build one too 🍿 MajorChaos and BLACK VIKING 2 Quote Scott Current Build: 1/72 Zvezda The Black Pearl
MajorChaos Posted April 22, 2023 Author #4 Posted April 22, 2023 The 1st video shows this step taking about 2 minutes. This is not true lol. The stain does look good. Lightly sanded and stained. I’m debating on a second coat. Bryan Woods, Ghost029 and GrandpaPhil 3 Quote In the shipyard: Syren 1:24 Medway Longboat 1742 Model Shipways 1:64 Bluenose Model Shipways 18th Century Longboat OcCre 1:50 The Flying Dutchman Completed: Model Shipways Lowell Grand Banks Dory Model Shipways Norwegian Sailing Pram Model Shipways Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack
MajorChaos Posted April 22, 2023 Author #5 Posted April 22, 2023 Video 1, instruction page A complete. I used the decking as guides and glued the formers in place per section. It seemed really important to keep it all lined up. No better way than to use the parts that will be fitted later to keep it square. This was something I could clearly see as helpful. I hope I can recognize other things like this before it’s to late haha. Using the decking as guides, not yet glued in place of course, worked really well. The glue I used a white PVA type so far seems like a good choice. It drys clear and it’s thick and easy to work with. It runs a little bit when I get to much on a part but it’s easy to use. It tacks quickly and holds quick like standard yellow wood glue. Twokidsnosleep, BLACK VIKING, GrandpaPhil and 1 other 4 Quote In the shipyard: Syren 1:24 Medway Longboat 1742 Model Shipways 1:64 Bluenose Model Shipways 18th Century Longboat OcCre 1:50 The Flying Dutchman Completed: Model Shipways Lowell Grand Banks Dory Model Shipways Norwegian Sailing Pram Model Shipways Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack
MajorChaos Posted April 22, 2023 Author #6 Posted April 22, 2023 Video 2, instruction sheet B, almost complete. I need to let the glue set longer before trimming more. I rushed myself because the glue was setting really quickly. I was using more glue in wider areas than I should have. Building it in 3 sections I didn’t notice what I had done until I laid them together. To late now. One of those things when it’s done, I should be the only one to see it. I’ll do better on the top decking. This is almost all hidden anyways or covered mostly. Each strip made 9 planks. 30 strips. 270 planks. A small pile left over. Plans called for 266 of B1. Bryan Woods, Montaigne, GrandpaPhil and 1 other 4 Quote In the shipyard: Syren 1:24 Medway Longboat 1742 Model Shipways 1:64 Bluenose Model Shipways 18th Century Longboat OcCre 1:50 The Flying Dutchman Completed: Model Shipways Lowell Grand Banks Dory Model Shipways Norwegian Sailing Pram Model Shipways Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack
MajorChaos Posted April 23, 2023 Author #7 Posted April 23, 2023 Instruction sheet B completed. If every step looks at least this good, I might have a nice finished boat. I’m getting ahead of myself lol. BLACK VIKING, mtaylor, Montaigne and 5 others 8 Quote In the shipyard: Syren 1:24 Medway Longboat 1742 Model Shipways 1:64 Bluenose Model Shipways 18th Century Longboat OcCre 1:50 The Flying Dutchman Completed: Model Shipways Lowell Grand Banks Dory Model Shipways Norwegian Sailing Pram Model Shipways Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack
MajorChaos Posted April 23, 2023 Author #8 Posted April 23, 2023 (edited) Video 3, instruction sheet C. Ha! They made the same planking mistake in the video. Mine don’t line up as good but, it’s all about learning. Making ladders was fun! I had to find consistent 1mm parts to make it work well. They seem to give some extra wood in the kit. I looked thru the list and this is the only place this size wood was used. Have the battle of this kit is finding the parts. The parts list is good, for exact size that is needed. But it doesn’t have any list of the stock included. It’s like a treasure hunt to find the right parts. It called for 2x4 walnut, and 2x3 walnut, I can only find 2x4 mm walnut. There is no 2x3 in the kit that I can find. I don’t care much but I don’t want to use something I’ll need later and not have it. The plastic bins have needed parts for this stage. I still have to make the mast base of what ever it’s called. This turret thing. I know it has a name, I just don’t know it. The parts are cut and ready to put together. Business trip flight incoming, no more work until next Saturday. I have to go people. I don’t want to but I need to. Boat fun, people suck. Edited April 23, 2023 by MajorChaos Spelling Ghost029, GrandpaPhil, Bryan Woods and 2 others 5 Quote In the shipyard: Syren 1:24 Medway Longboat 1742 Model Shipways 1:64 Bluenose Model Shipways 18th Century Longboat OcCre 1:50 The Flying Dutchman Completed: Model Shipways Lowell Grand Banks Dory Model Shipways Norwegian Sailing Pram Model Shipways Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack
MajorChaos Posted April 30, 2023 Author #9 Posted April 30, 2023 The last time I used the stain I got it all over my fingers and the table. I marked the pieces and as soon as they were stained the marking disappeared. As I thought about it I could have left the parts in the wood, as the edges are not dressed much. That’s what I did for the D and E series cross members. With them still in the sheets it’s easy to find them and not get them mixed up. The last piece of section C is completed. Fun note, making the next deck with planking isn’t mentioned. It shows a planked planned and infers to plank it. I wonder how many steps are like that… oh my. I could see this one clearly needs to be done. We shall see. GrandpaPhil, Bryan Woods, BLACK VIKING and 1 other 4 Quote In the shipyard: Syren 1:24 Medway Longboat 1742 Model Shipways 1:64 Bluenose Model Shipways 18th Century Longboat OcCre 1:50 The Flying Dutchman Completed: Model Shipways Lowell Grand Banks Dory Model Shipways Norwegian Sailing Pram Model Shipways Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack
MajorChaos Posted May 1, 2023 Author #10 Posted May 1, 2023 Mr Robot thru season 4 final show complete. It helps to look very closely as the pictures for the decks. Some notches don’t get carved out. I made a recovery, looks good enough. Oops. I didn’t get 19141 paint with the kit. I’m working on getting some so I can continue building upward. JeffT, GrandpaPhil and Montaigne 3 Quote In the shipyard: Syren 1:24 Medway Longboat 1742 Model Shipways 1:64 Bluenose Model Shipways 18th Century Longboat OcCre 1:50 The Flying Dutchman Completed: Model Shipways Lowell Grand Banks Dory Model Shipways Norwegian Sailing Pram Model Shipways Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack
Papa Duke Posted May 2, 2023 #11 Posted May 2, 2023 Working on the albatross right now. But I've been eyeing this one. Know it's not a scale version of a real ship but. I'm with ya just looks really nice and unique all put together. I'll be following this and ordering it lol. MajorChaos 1 Quote
MajorChaos Posted May 3, 2023 Author #12 Posted May 3, 2023 Planking decks. Working on sections D and E. I could do a bit of each as I let stuff dry. Slow progress. LEGION 12, Montaigne, GrandpaPhil and 1 other 4 Quote In the shipyard: Syren 1:24 Medway Longboat 1742 Model Shipways 1:64 Bluenose Model Shipways 18th Century Longboat OcCre 1:50 The Flying Dutchman Completed: Model Shipways Lowell Grand Banks Dory Model Shipways Norwegian Sailing Pram Model Shipways Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack
MajorChaos Posted May 6, 2023 Author #13 Posted May 6, 2023 Steps E and F, videos 5 and 6. Complete. I tried to look ahead and save time staining an painting to keep from getting different colors out. Meh, I kinda did good. It all fits mostly good. This being the first OcCre model I don’t know what I don’t know. Using the white paint for ghosting was fun, wiped the brush good and still had way to much paint on it. I’m happy with it so far. It won’t be perfect. I’m trying to build it, not make it perfect. From 10ft when it’s done, no one will see anything wrong. Completion is my only goal. Installing the rear and F11 was exciting lol. I don’t want to spoil it for anyone. 🤣 Can you spot the painting staining error lol. Montaigne, GrandpaPhil, BLACK VIKING and 1 other 4 Quote In the shipyard: Syren 1:24 Medway Longboat 1742 Model Shipways 1:64 Bluenose Model Shipways 18th Century Longboat OcCre 1:50 The Flying Dutchman Completed: Model Shipways Lowell Grand Banks Dory Model Shipways Norwegian Sailing Pram Model Shipways Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack
JeffT Posted May 6, 2023 #14 Posted May 6, 2023 Looking good! MajorChaos 1 Quote Jeff In progress: Medway Longboat 1742 - Syren Ship Model Company -1/2" scale USS Constitution - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Granado - CAF Model - 1:48 HMS Sphinx - Vanguard
Papa Duke Posted May 7, 2023 #15 Posted May 7, 2023 Looks good to me , as my next one it will be so any issues feel free to post em. MajorChaos 1 Quote
MajorChaos Posted May 7, 2023 Author #16 Posted May 7, 2023 Steps G and H, videos 7 and 8. Close enough. I messed up large piece, the glue was committed when I saw it. Large parts outside, narrow part should be inside. And the holes are wrong. It looks good enough. I was excited to see if and go Carrie’s away. The instructions and videos differ slightly. There are many trimming things that need done that’s not spelled out. Final step of H is the aging, after it cures a bit I’ll do that. It’s looking good. Looks like the next steps are planking and prepping the sides. JeffT, GrandpaPhil, BLACK VIKING and 4 others 7 Quote In the shipyard: Syren 1:24 Medway Longboat 1742 Model Shipways 1:64 Bluenose Model Shipways 18th Century Longboat OcCre 1:50 The Flying Dutchman Completed: Model Shipways Lowell Grand Banks Dory Model Shipways Norwegian Sailing Pram Model Shipways Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack
MajorChaos Posted May 8, 2023 Author #17 Posted May 8, 2023 Step I, video 9. Sanding the hull is very violent I’m shocked it didn’t fall apart. I used extra glue in places for structure and I’m sure glad I did. So far this is the most sanding needed. Some light sanding and fitting is all that was needed up to the hull fairing. What a mess. Lol. The soft wood was great to work with some of the other kits had wood with the properties of metal. This was easy to sand to shape. This model is built with make it nice then trash it make it aged. I figure a few rough spots won’t get noticed haha. Jeff T, Bryan Woods, JeffT and 2 others 5 Quote In the shipyard: Syren 1:24 Medway Longboat 1742 Model Shipways 1:64 Bluenose Model Shipways 18th Century Longboat OcCre 1:50 The Flying Dutchman Completed: Model Shipways Lowell Grand Banks Dory Model Shipways Norwegian Sailing Pram Model Shipways Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack
MajorChaos Posted May 9, 2023 Author #18 Posted May 9, 2023 The Doors! BLACK VIKING, JeffT, GrandpaPhil and 3 others 6 Quote In the shipyard: Syren 1:24 Medway Longboat 1742 Model Shipways 1:64 Bluenose Model Shipways 18th Century Longboat OcCre 1:50 The Flying Dutchman Completed: Model Shipways Lowell Grand Banks Dory Model Shipways Norwegian Sailing Pram Model Shipways Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack
MajorChaos Posted May 9, 2023 Author #19 Posted May 9, 2023 I’ve discovered I needed and or was missing 2mm x 3mm walnut sticks. The kit had 2mm x 4mm sticks of walnut so I used them. I need 12 2x4x40mm pieces to make inside pieces. I can make 3. There is no more 2mm x 4mm walnut. The parts list is awesome for what is needed for parts and sizes, but it has no list of what is in the kit. I can muddle thru some of it without the walnut, I have to learn where to get small fancy wood like in the kits. I was moving along good too. Boo. BLACK VIKING 1 Quote In the shipyard: Syren 1:24 Medway Longboat 1742 Model Shipways 1:64 Bluenose Model Shipways 18th Century Longboat OcCre 1:50 The Flying Dutchman Completed: Model Shipways Lowell Grand Banks Dory Model Shipways Norwegian Sailing Pram Model Shipways Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack
MajorChaos Posted May 13, 2023 Author #20 Posted May 13, 2023 (edited) Spare parts on order. OcCre has an awesome parts request section on their website just for this issue. Outstanding. I’m not a master at planking in any way. I laid the first plank in place. The top most plank of this section needs to be just under the “skuppers”, deck drains. I didn’t want to shave any off the planks so I’m building up backwards send to the aft on the top and fore on the bottom. It’s meeting up well. Section J K and the first part of L don’t match the video 10 and 11 well. 12 and 13 videos all seem to run together. It arrives at “oh look a planked boat”. I’m having to study to see what parts are not spelled out. It looks like the left inside is a show face and needs stained in the inside with 19211. But I’m not sure. Nailing and gluing planks is deceptively challenging. Using the push handle doesn’t work well. A small hammer and pliers to hold the nails works best. No water was used. The wood provided behaves well with curves. I’m wingin it, and hoping it turns out ok. 🤞🏻 Edited May 13, 2023 by MajorChaos GrandpaPhil, Montaigne, JeffT and 2 others 5 Quote In the shipyard: Syren 1:24 Medway Longboat 1742 Model Shipways 1:64 Bluenose Model Shipways 18th Century Longboat OcCre 1:50 The Flying Dutchman Completed: Model Shipways Lowell Grand Banks Dory Model Shipways Norwegian Sailing Pram Model Shipways Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack
JeffT Posted May 13, 2023 #21 Posted May 13, 2023 Planking is definitely one of the more challenging aspects of building a ship. Yours looks good so far. MajorChaos and BLACK VIKING 2 Quote Jeff In progress: Medway Longboat 1742 - Syren Ship Model Company -1/2" scale USS Constitution - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Granado - CAF Model - 1:48 HMS Sphinx - Vanguard
MajorChaos Posted May 13, 2023 Author #22 Posted May 13, 2023 Well, not to bad. The plan worked. JeffT, BLACK VIKING, Montaigne and 3 others 6 Quote In the shipyard: Syren 1:24 Medway Longboat 1742 Model Shipways 1:64 Bluenose Model Shipways 18th Century Longboat OcCre 1:50 The Flying Dutchman Completed: Model Shipways Lowell Grand Banks Dory Model Shipways Norwegian Sailing Pram Model Shipways Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack
MajorChaos Posted May 14, 2023 Author #23 Posted May 14, 2023 Moving along. Slow going wetting and shaping. GrandpaPhil and JeffT 2 Quote In the shipyard: Syren 1:24 Medway Longboat 1742 Model Shipways 1:64 Bluenose Model Shipways 18th Century Longboat OcCre 1:50 The Flying Dutchman Completed: Model Shipways Lowell Grand Banks Dory Model Shipways Norwegian Sailing Pram Model Shipways Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack
MajorChaos Posted May 15, 2023 Author #24 Posted May 15, 2023 OcCre style planking seems best learned from the Polaris. I had a few questions and this and the next few videos answers them well enough. Many won’t need these but a first time OcCre builder likely will, I did. Good news I can do the planking at least as good as the video. JeffT 1 Quote In the shipyard: Syren 1:24 Medway Longboat 1742 Model Shipways 1:64 Bluenose Model Shipways 18th Century Longboat OcCre 1:50 The Flying Dutchman Completed: Model Shipways Lowell Grand Banks Dory Model Shipways Norwegian Sailing Pram Model Shipways Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack
MajorChaos Posted May 22, 2023 Author #25 Posted May 22, 2023 Planking continues. There is so much going on that needs planning form early stages. This was not a wise choice for a first big ship. Q25 fits in a place that I made it not fit. I made adjustments I hope works out. The top front doesn’t get planked but it will on mine. So many mistakes…. Maybe know one will know lol JeffT, Bryan Woods, Montaigne and 1 other 4 Quote In the shipyard: Syren 1:24 Medway Longboat 1742 Model Shipways 1:64 Bluenose Model Shipways 18th Century Longboat OcCre 1:50 The Flying Dutchman Completed: Model Shipways Lowell Grand Banks Dory Model Shipways Norwegian Sailing Pram Model Shipways Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack
MajorChaos Posted May 25, 2023 Author #26 Posted May 25, 2023 I’m not sure if planking ever ends. One side is almost complete. A bit of fill at the bottom remains. Trimming and sanding needed too. Not to bad so far. BLACK VIKING and Twokidsnosleep 2 Quote In the shipyard: Syren 1:24 Medway Longboat 1742 Model Shipways 1:64 Bluenose Model Shipways 18th Century Longboat OcCre 1:50 The Flying Dutchman Completed: Model Shipways Lowell Grand Banks Dory Model Shipways Norwegian Sailing Pram Model Shipways Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack
MajorChaos Posted May 29, 2023 Author #27 Posted May 29, 2023 Plodding along. Lower lights are done. They stick down to far, I smashed it all together as tight as I could get it. The method they suggest to build the lights up doesn’t make it dense enough. Planking on the starboard side has started. Knocklouder, JeffT, Twokidsnosleep and 2 others 5 Quote In the shipyard: Syren 1:24 Medway Longboat 1742 Model Shipways 1:64 Bluenose Model Shipways 18th Century Longboat OcCre 1:50 The Flying Dutchman Completed: Model Shipways Lowell Grand Banks Dory Model Shipways Norwegian Sailing Pram Model Shipways Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack
JeffT Posted May 29, 2023 #28 Posted May 29, 2023 I wonder if it would be possible to use LED light strips? Quote Jeff In progress: Medway Longboat 1742 - Syren Ship Model Company -1/2" scale USS Constitution - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Granado - CAF Model - 1:48 HMS Sphinx - Vanguard
MajorChaos Posted May 29, 2023 Author #29 Posted May 29, 2023 19 minutes ago, JeffT said: I wonder if it would be possible to use LED light strips? Yes, I think so. It would make installing them easy. Wiring them would be simplified. Yellow LED strip. There are still individual lights needed also, but the flood lights would be great as strips. JeffT 1 Quote In the shipyard: Syren 1:24 Medway Longboat 1742 Model Shipways 1:64 Bluenose Model Shipways 18th Century Longboat OcCre 1:50 The Flying Dutchman Completed: Model Shipways Lowell Grand Banks Dory Model Shipways Norwegian Sailing Pram Model Shipways Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack
MajorChaos Posted June 1, 2023 Author #30 Posted June 1, 2023 Planking and planking and planking. I’m trying to go slow enough each one is just as it should be. The build moves quickly until this stage. It’s getting unruly to hold on to for planking. It’s quite heavy also. ccoyle, Jeff T, Montaigne and 4 others 7 Quote In the shipyard: Syren 1:24 Medway Longboat 1742 Model Shipways 1:64 Bluenose Model Shipways 18th Century Longboat OcCre 1:50 The Flying Dutchman Completed: Model Shipways Lowell Grand Banks Dory Model Shipways Norwegian Sailing Pram Model Shipways Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack
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