MajorChaos Posted July 9, 2023 Share #1 Posted July 9, 2023 I started a Bluenose in the mid 2000s and was way over my head. Attempt number two began today. Bulkhead K will have some internal character. bhermann and Rik Thistle 2 Quote In the shipyard: Syren 1:24 Medway Longboat 1742 Model Shipways 1:64 Bluenose Model Shipways 18th Century Longboat OcCre 1:50 The Flying Dutchman Completed: Model Shipways Lowell Grand Banks Dory Model Shipways Norwegian Sailing Pram Model Shipways Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr PR Posted July 9, 2023 Share #2 Posted July 9, 2023 Howard Chapelle's "The American Fishing Schooners 1825-1935" (W. W. Norton & Company, New York, 1973, 690 pages) is an excellent reference for these fishing schooners. The 370 page "Notebook" at the back of the book has detailed drawings and descriptions of many details on these vessels. MajorChaos 1 Quote Phil Current build: https://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/19611-albatros-by-dr-pr-mantua-scale-140-about-1815/&tab=comments#comment-601276 Previous build: https://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/19321-uss-oklahoma-city-clg-5-1971-3d-cad-model/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MajorChaos Posted July 10, 2023 Author Share #3 Posted July 10, 2023 I remember this taking much longer the first time. It’s been so long I’m not really sure where I got to. Now that I have a better understanding of fairing the hull this part may go better. Fair a frame MS105 was good enough to square up the bulkheads. I built it to hold the hull. I got it a try for it’s intended purpose. Not my favorite tool, but it did the job. ccoyle 1 Quote In the shipyard: Syren 1:24 Medway Longboat 1742 Model Shipways 1:64 Bluenose Model Shipways 18th Century Longboat OcCre 1:50 The Flying Dutchman Completed: Model Shipways Lowell Grand Banks Dory Model Shipways Norwegian Sailing Pram Model Shipways Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MajorChaos Posted July 10, 2023 Author Share #4 Posted July 10, 2023 22 hours ago, Dr PR said: Howard Chapelle's "The American Fishing Schooners 1825-1935" (W. W. Norton & Company, New York, 1973, 690 pages) is an excellent reference for these fishing schooners. The 370 page "Notebook" at the back of the book has detailed drawings and descriptions of many details on these vessels. The book is on order. Thank you. I found it in hardcover. Quote In the shipyard: Syren 1:24 Medway Longboat 1742 Model Shipways 1:64 Bluenose Model Shipways 18th Century Longboat OcCre 1:50 The Flying Dutchman Completed: Model Shipways Lowell Grand Banks Dory Model Shipways Norwegian Sailing Pram Model Shipways Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MajorChaos Posted July 12, 2023 Author Share #5 Posted July 12, 2023 (edited) Bluenose fairing brought to you by Knob Creek. I can’t be the only one. Edited July 12, 2023 by MajorChaos JacquesCousteau and bhermann 2 Quote In the shipyard: Syren 1:24 Medway Longboat 1742 Model Shipways 1:64 Bluenose Model Shipways 18th Century Longboat OcCre 1:50 The Flying Dutchman Completed: Model Shipways Lowell Grand Banks Dory Model Shipways Norwegian Sailing Pram Model Shipways Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhermann Posted July 16, 2023 Share #6 Posted July 16, 2023 I've got this one in the works too, still my first attempt even if I am 16 years into it. I'll be following along with interest! Looks like a nice solid start for you. Bob MajorChaos 1 Quote Current build -- MS Bluenose Future build - MS Flying Fish "A ship is safe in harbor, but that's not what ships are for." - William G. T. Shedd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MajorChaos Posted July 18, 2023 Author Share #7 Posted July 18, 2023 On 7/16/2023 at 11:53 AM, bhermann said: I've got this one in the works too, still my first attempt even if I am 16 years into it. I'll be following along with interest! Looks like a nice solid start for you. Bob So far so good! Quote In the shipyard: Syren 1:24 Medway Longboat 1742 Model Shipways 1:64 Bluenose Model Shipways 18th Century Longboat OcCre 1:50 The Flying Dutchman Completed: Model Shipways Lowell Grand Banks Dory Model Shipways Norwegian Sailing Pram Model Shipways Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MajorChaos Posted July 18, 2023 Author Share #8 Posted July 18, 2023 (edited) This transom wood is hard for soft wood. I’ve broken the bonds in the N and O formers. I completely broke off the rear keel at the weakest point. I’ve spent some good money on Dremel toys. I remember this being a bugger the first time. I’m trying to not make a mess of this transom. Edited July 18, 2023 by MajorChaos GrandpaPhil and bhermann 2 Quote In the shipyard: Syren 1:24 Medway Longboat 1742 Model Shipways 1:64 Bluenose Model Shipways 18th Century Longboat OcCre 1:50 The Flying Dutchman Completed: Model Shipways Lowell Grand Banks Dory Model Shipways Norwegian Sailing Pram Model Shipways Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MajorChaos Posted July 27, 2023 Author Share #9 Posted July 27, 2023 A few dollars in Dremel tools bits and sanders and the transom looks good! Much of the fairing of the hull is done. Taking my time. I’m in no rush. JacquesCousteau, Fubarelf, Knocklouder and 1 other 4 Quote In the shipyard: Syren 1:24 Medway Longboat 1742 Model Shipways 1:64 Bluenose Model Shipways 18th Century Longboat OcCre 1:50 The Flying Dutchman Completed: Model Shipways Lowell Grand Banks Dory Model Shipways Norwegian Sailing Pram Model Shipways Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MajorChaos Posted July 30, 2023 Author Share #10 Posted July 30, 2023 The Bluenose transom is crazy hard for me to figure out. I think I’ve got it 95-97% what it should be. It flows nice. It seems to fit the next piece to go on top. It not clear what to plank it with. The notes seem to not say both parts of the stick size. It does not say to cut a slot for part of the great beam in front of H. But it clearly has it be notched out. It might be on a note on the plans I have not found yet. My kit is missing 3/32 x 1/8 sticks. I have 20 different sticks, the list is 21 items long. What a bit of fun to figure out what size everything is without dial calipers, ordered those and on the way. I’ve faired it well. I see more stuff to sand as I study it. It should plank well. Seventynet 1 Quote In the shipyard: Syren 1:24 Medway Longboat 1742 Model Shipways 1:64 Bluenose Model Shipways 18th Century Longboat OcCre 1:50 The Flying Dutchman Completed: Model Shipways Lowell Grand Banks Dory Model Shipways Norwegian Sailing Pram Model Shipways Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MajorChaos Posted August 1, 2023 Author Share #11 Posted August 1, 2023 The transom is very close to the picture of the Bluenose II. I’m thrill I got it to look like this. I’ve stopped and studied the plans the instructions, pictures everything I could find. I think I even understand where the fashion piece fits in. Soon to learn how to cove. Then figure out the scuppers, and fake stanchions. Soon I’ll be past the point I got stuck years ago. JacquesCousteau, Fubarelf, Knocklouder and 2 others 5 Quote In the shipyard: Syren 1:24 Medway Longboat 1742 Model Shipways 1:64 Bluenose Model Shipways 18th Century Longboat OcCre 1:50 The Flying Dutchman Completed: Model Shipways Lowell Grand Banks Dory Model Shipways Norwegian Sailing Pram Model Shipways Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JacquesCousteau Posted August 1, 2023 Share #12 Posted August 1, 2023 Nice job, the transom looks great! MajorChaos and Knocklouder 2 Quote Kits: Model Shipways Dory (1:24) - Finished NRG Half-Hull Planking Kit (1:48) - In-progress Midwest Maine Peapod (1:14) - In-progress Scratch Builds: Xochimilco Trajinera (1:32) - Finished Lake Chapala Canoa de Rancho (1:32) - In-progress Juana y José Cross Section (1:32) - Finished Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MajorChaos Posted August 6, 2023 Author Share #13 Posted August 6, 2023 There are certain things to be done in a different order. The great beam it shows last for stage 1. I don’t think that would work out. The water ways rest on the great beam. The main rail on the aft section needs an aft boom sheet buffer fitted before installing. Or at least it looks a lot simpler to do it now. I’ve cleaned up and fitted bulkhead stanchions until it looks like they fit and flow well. I have convinced myself nothing will fit going up to the top rails, we shall see. I have no idea which wood to use for the main rail. There is some 1/16 inch thick 1/2 wide, looks like these would fit the curves every 6 inches. I think I will start a few top side planks before the top rail, so the waist can be fitted nicely before gluing the top rail in place. This should allow fitting of fake stanchions also. Model Expo still hasn’t shipped a small order made last Sunday for some 3/32 x 1/8 sticks and other stuff for the fore waterway. I bought what was missing so I didn’t have to wait until they got around to it. bhermann 1 Quote In the shipyard: Syren 1:24 Medway Longboat 1742 Model Shipways 1:64 Bluenose Model Shipways 18th Century Longboat OcCre 1:50 The Flying Dutchman Completed: Model Shipways Lowell Grand Banks Dory Model Shipways Norwegian Sailing Pram Model Shipways Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MajorChaos Posted August 13, 2023 Author Share #14 Posted August 13, 2023 By the time I figured out I used the wrong size waterways on the foredeck it was to late. They were well placed, nicely fitted and won’t be noticeable unless looked at by a boat expert. This project is about where I was almost 20 years ago. I think the main rail is what I got stuck on. bhermann and Knocklouder 2 Quote In the shipyard: Syren 1:24 Medway Longboat 1742 Model Shipways 1:64 Bluenose Model Shipways 18th Century Longboat OcCre 1:50 The Flying Dutchman Completed: Model Shipways Lowell Grand Banks Dory Model Shipways Norwegian Sailing Pram Model Shipways Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MajorChaos Posted August 13, 2023 Author Share #15 Posted August 13, 2023 The current goal was/is to plank the sides enough to get the waist installed, to get all the stanchions installed and the main rail on top of that. As many of the instructions and guides state, I’m trying to make each plank a victory in itself. Hundreds more to follow. 😳 The Modena just won’t fall off….. Seventynet, allanyed, ccoyle and 2 others 5 Quote In the shipyard: Syren 1:24 Medway Longboat 1742 Model Shipways 1:64 Bluenose Model Shipways 18th Century Longboat OcCre 1:50 The Flying Dutchman Completed: Model Shipways Lowell Grand Banks Dory Model Shipways Norwegian Sailing Pram Model Shipways Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allanyed Posted August 14, 2023 Share #16 Posted August 14, 2023 Exceptionally neat work on the model and I really like the keel clamp as it can be tightened even when there is a taper of the keel at the bow and stern as was often the case. Allan MajorChaos 1 Quote PLEASE take 30 SECONDS and sign up for the epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series. Click on http://trafalgar.tv There is no cost other than the 30 seconds of your time. THANK YOU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MajorChaos Posted August 19, 2023 Author Share #17 Posted August 19, 2023 Stanchions are getting installed slowly. I have to remind myself it’s not a race. Slowly making one piece at a time a victory. bhermann, Knocklouder, JacquesCousteau and 3 others 6 Quote In the shipyard: Syren 1:24 Medway Longboat 1742 Model Shipways 1:64 Bluenose Model Shipways 18th Century Longboat OcCre 1:50 The Flying Dutchman Completed: Model Shipways Lowell Grand Banks Dory Model Shipways Norwegian Sailing Pram Model Shipways Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MajorChaos Posted August 19, 2023 Author Share #18 Posted August 19, 2023 To late now. It was supposed to have 3 fake stanchions between, I only installed 2. Darn it. Lol. Oops. It looks nice…. GGibson 1 Quote In the shipyard: Syren 1:24 Medway Longboat 1742 Model Shipways 1:64 Bluenose Model Shipways 18th Century Longboat OcCre 1:50 The Flying Dutchman Completed: Model Shipways Lowell Grand Banks Dory Model Shipways Norwegian Sailing Pram Model Shipways Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBorgens Posted August 19, 2023 Share #19 Posted August 19, 2023 Just found your log and will pull up a chair and follow. You’re doing a great job, especially the transom. I wouldn’t worry about the number of stanchions, the ship will look just as nice. First builds are like school, every task is a learning experience so don’t beat yourself up (BN was my first build as well). I found Bob Herman’s log very helpful. MajorChaos 1 Quote Current build: HMS Pegasus, English Pinnace (on hold) Completed build: MS Bluenose, Skippercraft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGibson Posted August 20, 2023 Share #20 Posted August 20, 2023 Great start, Major Chaos! Looks really nice! I've had a busy spring/summer, so haven't done much on my Bluenose for a while. Am just back to it, painting the bulwarks, the hull and finishing the deck. Will be posting an update soon, but in the meantime, will be following yours, as well. Carry on! MajorChaos 1 Quote Gregg Current Projects: Completed Projects: Waiting for Shipyard Clearance: Bluenose 1921 1:64 - Model Shipways Norwegian Sailing Pram 1:12 - Model Shipways Yacht America Schooner 1851 1:64 - Model Shipways Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack 1:24 - Model Shipways RMS Titanic 1:300 - OcCre (Couldn't help myself when it was on sale) H.M. Schooner Ballahoo 1:64 - Caldercraft USS Constitution 1:76 - Model Shipways Santa Maria Caravelle 1:48 - Ships of Pavel Nikitin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MajorChaos Posted August 22, 2023 Author Share #21 Posted August 22, 2023 Moving along. It’s turned out as good or better then I hoped so far. The waist looks good with some trial fits. I wanted to build up to a flat surface to make the main rail. Thank you for the encouragement. The transoms has worked out so far, the tale will be the main rail fit. 🤞🏻@DBorgens @GGibson MAGIC's Craig, Knocklouder, JacquesCousteau and 1 other 4 Quote In the shipyard: Syren 1:24 Medway Longboat 1742 Model Shipways 1:64 Bluenose Model Shipways 18th Century Longboat OcCre 1:50 The Flying Dutchman Completed: Model Shipways Lowell Grand Banks Dory Model Shipways Norwegian Sailing Pram Model Shipways Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MajorChaos Posted August 22, 2023 Author Share #22 Posted August 22, 2023 When I worry about perfection I just look at the real ship planking I decide I’m doing ok. The wood has different dimensions from piece to piece and from end to end on the same piece. Perfection is almost impossible. I want to go visit some of the ships some day, my work is way to busy, it’s hard to take time off. Rick310, ccoyle, Knocklouder and 2 others 5 Quote In the shipyard: Syren 1:24 Medway Longboat 1742 Model Shipways 1:64 Bluenose Model Shipways 18th Century Longboat OcCre 1:50 The Flying Dutchman Completed: Model Shipways Lowell Grand Banks Dory Model Shipways Norwegian Sailing Pram Model Shipways Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MajorChaos Posted August 24, 2023 Author Share #23 Posted August 24, 2023 Slow and steady. I find if I don’t want to at the moment I shouldn’t. I make a mess if I’m not into it. After sanding the planks in place they fair nicely. If your reading this trying to find answers to your questions, you were right, some of us are winging it and got it close lol. Reading ahead my not be enough to miss a detail. I may have to call this the Bluenose 3. Others with a sharp eye will notice a few oddities. Who needs plans lol. JacquesCousteau, GGibson, Seventynet and 1 other 4 Quote In the shipyard: Syren 1:24 Medway Longboat 1742 Model Shipways 1:64 Bluenose Model Shipways 18th Century Longboat OcCre 1:50 The Flying Dutchman Completed: Model Shipways Lowell Grand Banks Dory Model Shipways Norwegian Sailing Pram Model Shipways Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MajorChaos Posted August 25, 2023 Author Share #24 Posted August 25, 2023 Fake stanchions are done. Knocklouder, bhermann, allanyed and 2 others 5 Quote In the shipyard: Syren 1:24 Medway Longboat 1742 Model Shipways 1:64 Bluenose Model Shipways 18th Century Longboat OcCre 1:50 The Flying Dutchman Completed: Model Shipways Lowell Grand Banks Dory Model Shipways Norwegian Sailing Pram Model Shipways Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGibson Posted August 25, 2023 Share #25 Posted August 25, 2023 Lined up nicely, Major! 👍 MajorChaos 1 Quote Gregg Current Projects: Completed Projects: Waiting for Shipyard Clearance: Bluenose 1921 1:64 - Model Shipways Norwegian Sailing Pram 1:12 - Model Shipways Yacht America Schooner 1851 1:64 - Model Shipways Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack 1:24 - Model Shipways RMS Titanic 1:300 - OcCre (Couldn't help myself when it was on sale) H.M. Schooner Ballahoo 1:64 - Caldercraft USS Constitution 1:76 - Model Shipways Santa Maria Caravelle 1:48 - Ships of Pavel Nikitin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MajorChaos Posted August 26, 2023 Author Share #26 Posted August 26, 2023 Planking the sides. Slow and steady. Cutting fitting sanding and trimming to make sure each piece fits and the rows stay stable. A shot of the common tools I’m using. I’ve got sets and set sn of files but these diamond files 150 and 220 grit are the ones I grab the most. The riff files set I have is fantastic for all kinds of detail work. The jig and saw blades with handle are great for getting many pieces cut quickly and accurately. I have to relearn patience constantly, I keep thinking about farther steps and other ships I have in boxes ready to build. bhermann and GGibson 2 Quote In the shipyard: Syren 1:24 Medway Longboat 1742 Model Shipways 1:64 Bluenose Model Shipways 18th Century Longboat OcCre 1:50 The Flying Dutchman Completed: Model Shipways Lowell Grand Banks Dory Model Shipways Norwegian Sailing Pram Model Shipways Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MajorChaos Posted August 27, 2023 Author Share #27 Posted August 27, 2023 I wasn’t sure how it make the cove, so I skipped it. The waist doesn’t fit and finish like I hoped, all I can do is make it work. Planking is going well. Nothing appears to be out of place. Currently I do not know which metal pieces go where. Or what some of them even are. I’ve no idea how to make the letters on the sides and transom. I have not decided if I want to build deck pieces and plank around them, or plank the deck and build the stuff on top. Something on top will need paint or stain soon ish, before I get the top/main rail in place. I’ve not worked out how I’m cutting out the mail rail parts yet. One board at a time. bhermann and JacquesCousteau 2 Quote In the shipyard: Syren 1:24 Medway Longboat 1742 Model Shipways 1:64 Bluenose Model Shipways 18th Century Longboat OcCre 1:50 The Flying Dutchman Completed: Model Shipways Lowell Grand Banks Dory Model Shipways Norwegian Sailing Pram Model Shipways Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JacquesCousteau Posted August 27, 2023 Share #28 Posted August 27, 2023 Planking's looking great! MajorChaos 1 Quote Kits: Model Shipways Dory (1:24) - Finished NRG Half-Hull Planking Kit (1:48) - In-progress Midwest Maine Peapod (1:14) - In-progress Scratch Builds: Xochimilco Trajinera (1:32) - Finished Lake Chapala Canoa de Rancho (1:32) - In-progress Juana y José Cross Section (1:32) - Finished Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MajorChaos Posted August 27, 2023 Author Share #29 Posted August 27, 2023 14 hours ago, JacquesCousteau said: Planking's looking great! Thank you! Slowly working on the rest of it. JacquesCousteau 1 Quote In the shipyard: Syren 1:24 Medway Longboat 1742 Model Shipways 1:64 Bluenose Model Shipways 18th Century Longboat OcCre 1:50 The Flying Dutchman Completed: Model Shipways Lowell Grand Banks Dory Model Shipways Norwegian Sailing Pram Model Shipways Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MajorChaos Posted August 27, 2023 Author Share #30 Posted August 27, 2023 Mind the gap….. it would have been a great fit too. I expect soon this will be the least of my worries lol. Quote In the shipyard: Syren 1:24 Medway Longboat 1742 Model Shipways 1:64 Bluenose Model Shipways 18th Century Longboat OcCre 1:50 The Flying Dutchman Completed: Model Shipways Lowell Grand Banks Dory Model Shipways Norwegian Sailing Pram Model Shipways Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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