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Good job!

 

I tie the thimbles with thread or rope around them, but before seizing, I secure the thread around the thimble with a minimal amount of CA glue, applied with the tip of the needle.

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As for parrals, I think these beads are called "trucks", at least that's how I read Modefeld's drawings.

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("Historic Ship Models" by W. Modfeld)

 


Boom and gaff probably definitely had these "beads". In the case of yards, it could be an ordinary truss pendant (i.e. just a rope).

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("The Global Schooner" by K. H. Marquardt)

 

The suggestion to use wire insulation is simply an imitation of these beads, as they are so small that making them by hand without precise tools may be very difficult.

 

Best wishes

Tomek

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Thanks, Tomek. So the trucks are for the parrels. That makes life easier! I don't have any wire to strip the insulation from so I was going to cut sections from a CA glue applicator tip. I think I could make it work but now I know I don't have to.

 

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After working on the boom and gaffs I worked on the sails. I used a watered down acrylic paint (about 50/50) of a 'sandstone' color to color the white fabric. I hung the fabric like so much laundry on a line and let it dry for a good 24 hours. The fabric had a nice stiffness to it after the paint treatment. Since the sails are printed on one side only I used a thin lead mechanical pencil to draw the seams on the reverse side and then applied a thinned coat of watered down white glue to seal them. (I've happily used Aleene's Tacky glue for the entire project.)  I simply used an knife to cut the sails apart and glued thin strips of the same painted fabric for the tablings and reefing bands. I've not yet glued on the bolt ropes but decided to try the reefing points first.

 

So... were there standard lengths for the reef lines? And what's the best way to tame them?

 

 

The painted fabric:

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I used a pin and some cork backing to open the reefing points:

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Went away to Lewes, Delaware, for the weekend searching for some inspiration. Found some looking north:

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Found some more looking south:

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Returned home and added unruly reef lines to the fore sail:

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4 minutes ago, Jsk said:

unruly reef lines

 

You probably know this already, but you can tack the ends of the reef points down with a spot of Aleene's. They should hang straight down, perpendicular to the waterline.

 

Your Delaware beach looks much the same as a South Carolina beach. Here's one along California's Lost Coast, near where I grew up:

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Chris Coyle
Greer, South Carolina

When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk.
- Tuco

Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, Salmson 2, Speeljacht

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Well, reef points are done. Now that I look at them it seems like a lot of reef points!

 

This was a tedious process. I opened all the holes with a pin and then took a piece of thread several feet long and stiffened one end with CA. On the other end I tied a double knot about 1.5 inches from the end and then fed the stiffened end through the first hole. Once the knot hit snagged on the hole I back the thread out about 1/4 inch, applied a small dab of CA to the knot and then pulled the thread through again until the knot snugged up against fabric of the sail. I had intended on putting a second knot on the other side but quickly gave up on that idea. There's simply no way I was able to get the second knot snug against the sail.

 

I then cut the thread leaving about 1.5 inches on the back side. So I ended up with about 1.5 inches of thread on each side. Then tied a new knot and started with the next hole.

 

Taming the whole row of reef points got to be really tricky so I developed a rhythm of threading and tacking about a dozen lines at a time. I used little pieces of painter's tape to hold the lines in position. Then draped the sail over the corner of a box to ensure the points were against the fabric of the sail and used Aleene's to glue the top portion of the lines to the sail. Finally, I trimmed them short. I did have problems keeping them all the same lengthcutter-92.jpg.8cb7ba4b35dc13e4ddc27c9320cd34d3.jpg

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All in all I'm satisfied with the reef points. But... yeah, tedious.

 

I'm now working on the bolt ropes. That shouldn't take as long--I hope!

 

 

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I'm trying to put names to the various lines in the plan's rigging diagrams. Can anyone identify lines 16, 20 and 40 in the diagrams below?

 

Seahorse United States Revenue Cutter Sail and Rigging Key

 

Sails

S1

Jib

S2

Fore Stay Sail

S3

Fore Sail

S4

Main Sail

S5

Fore Topsail

S6

Main Gaff Topsail

S7

Flag

 

1a

Gammoning

 

1b

Crupper

 

2

Bobstay

 

3

Bowsprit Shroud

 

4

Jib Boom Guy

 

5

Fore Shroud

 

6

Jib Stay

 

7

Fore Topmast Shroud

 

8

Fore Back Stay

 

9

Flying Jib Stay

 

10

Main Shroud

 

11

Mainstay

 

12

Main Topmast Shroud

 

13

Main Back Stay

 

14

Main Topmast Stay

 

15

Fore Stay Sail Halliard

 

16

 

 

17

Fore Stay Sail Sheet

 

18

Fore Stay Sail Inhaul

 

19

Jib Halliard

 

20

 

 

21

Jib Inhaul

 

22

Jib Sheet

 

23

Fore Throat Halliard

 

24

Fore Peak Halliard

 

25

Fore Gaff Vang

 

26

Fore Sail Brail (?)

 

27

Fore Sail Tack

 

28

Fore Sail Sheet

 

29

Main Throat Halliard

 

30

Main Peak Halliard

 

31

Main Boom Topping Lift

 

32

Main Boom Sheet

 

33

Main Outhaul

 

34

Main Gaff Topsail Halliard

 

35

Main Gaff Topsail Sheet

 

36

Main Gaff Topsail Tack

 

37 (Green)

Fore Course Sling

 

37 (black)

Fore Course Yard Lift ?

 

38

Fore Course Yard Halliard

 

39

Fore Topsail Yard Halliard

 

40

 

 

41

Fore Topsail Sheet

 

42

Fore Course Brace

 

43

Fore Topsail Brace

 

44

Fore Topsail Clueline

 

45

Flag Halliard

 

 

 

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Hmm. Thanks, Chris. Though I think 16 and 20 are probably the outhaul lines for the foresail and jib, respectively. Are downhauls and outhauls just different names for the same thing?

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Hmm. I got a couple of the lines mixed up. 20 is definitely an outhaul -- you can see it attached to the jib boom traveler.  The foresail doesn't have an outhaul, since it is bent to the forestay -- it can only slide up or down the stay. So 16 is the tack, and 18 is the downhaul

Chris Coyle
Greer, South Carolina

When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk.
- Tuco

Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, Salmson 2, Speeljacht

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Thanks, Chris.

 

Next question for the collective:

 

I'm looking at the mainsail outhaul in the drawing below. Looks like line 33 (in blue) runs from the Mainsail Clew => Sheave at the end of the boom => Block 1 => Block 2 => Cleat on the boom. My question is about Block 2. This drawing is the only place it appears. Block 1 is shown in another drawing of the boom but Block 2 is not. I'm not sure what Block 2 is attached to. Would it be appropriate to seize it to the boom at the same point that the tackle for line 32 is attached? There is a little squarish bracket (I don't know what it's called) on the boom at that point.

 

The other example I've seen has a block on the lower side of the boom jaw and the line would run Clew => Sheave => Jaw block => Block 1 => Cleat. That seems less practical to me with the cabin located where it is.

 

Hmmm...

 

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Tried stropping some blocks yesterday with moderate success. These are tiny 2mm single blocks. I first laid the blocks on some painters tape with the sticky side up to hold the blocks in place. Then I applied some CA to the exposed sides of the blocks and laid the line across ensuring that the line ran from top to bottom. After letting that dry I picked up the blocks with tweezers, folded the line over and glued it to the back side of the block. Then, after letting that dry I tied the line off at the base of the block. My eyes and coordination just weren't good enough to do any wrapping here so I finally gave up on that idea--at least for now.

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I then took on the mast hoops. This went easier than expected. I made a loop in the line and slipped the hoop over the loop. Then feed the two loose ends of the line through the loop basically hitching the hoop to the line. Then I ran one of the loose ends of the line through the hole in the sail and tied it off the the other loose end. The picture (rather obviously!) shows the sail before trimming off the loose ends of the lines.

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1 hour ago, Jsk said:

Thanks, Chris.

 

Next question for the collective:

 

I'm looking at the mainsail outhaul in the drawing below. Looks like line 33 (in blue) runs from the Mainsail Clew => Sheave at the end of the boom => Block 1 => Block 2 => Cleat on the boom. My question is about Block 2. This drawing is the only place it appears. Block 1 is shown in another drawing of the boom but Block 2 is not. I'm not sure what Block 2 is attached to. Would it be appropriate to seize it to the boom at the same point that the tackle for line 32 is attached? There is a little squarish bracket (I don't know what it's called) on the boom at that point.

 

The other example I've seen has a block on the lower side of the boom jaw and the line would run Clew => Sheave => Jaw block => Block 1 => Cleat. That seems less practical to me with the cabin located where it is.

 

Hmmm...

 

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40 is a truss fall (for parrals)

Block 2 is attached to the end of the outhaul (33) (I wouldn't call it "clew line"), so it moves forward and backward, as the outhaul is tightened or loosened.

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On 6/9/2024 at 12:23 PM, 0Seahorse said:

Block 2 is attached to the end of the outhaul (33) (I wouldn't call it "clew line"), so it moves forward and backward, as the outhaul is tightened or loosened.

Thanks, @0Seahorse, I don't think I'd have figured the outhaul line on my own.

 

Thanks, everyone, for stopping by and the likes.

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OK, a major milestone has been reached: The mainmast has had the off-ship work done and is ready.

 

After attaching the hoops to the mainsail I attached the various blocks to the boom, gaff and mast. The easiest way to do this was to strop the blocks and simply twist the thread and coat it with CA to form a spike which could be inserted into a hole drilled in the spar. I didn't even try to create eye rings to attach the blocks to. I think any ring I created would have looked vastly over scaled.

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I wanted to attach the hoops to the mainsail separately because I didn't think I'd be able to accomplish it with the hoops already on the mast. It's a good thing I took that approach because, while the hoops seemed to have plenty of play on the masts, by the time I added the lines to tie the hoops to the sail, the thickness of the lines made the hoops fit VERY snugly over the mast. There's no way I could have run the line through the hoops with them on the mast. In fact, I originally forgot to install the main boom and had to remove the sail. I was really afraid I was going to end up ripping some of the hoops from the sail but it all turned out OK.

 

Once the sail and the gaff were on the mast I bent the sail to the gaff. I started out double wrapping the robbands around the gaff but decided that looked too bulky for 1/72 scale. So I switched to a single wrapping. I rather wish I hadn't done that because, while I think a single wrap looks better the inconsistency bothers me.

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Once I had the boom, mainsail and gaff on the lower mast I could tackle the top mast and trestle tree. However, the topmast shrouds pitted me against my Nemesis... thimbles. Thimbles in 1/72nd scale. Thimbles that are only two millimeters, outside diameter. Thimbles, dammit! I was able to strop one. In ten attempts. Good thing I bought an extra set. I tried my old standby of coating a loop of thread with CA and that sort of worked but I wasn't entirely satisfied with them, either. Eventually I gave up trying to strop and simply tied the lines to the thimbles.

 

Once I made that concession I had to figure out a way to space the lanyards evenly. My solution was to tie two lines to two thimbles, hold the lines in opposing arms of my 'third hand'. I stuck two pins through a piece of card to mark the distance between the thimbles, placed the thimbles over the pins to space them correctly, removed the card and gently run the lanyard through them being careful to not pull the lanyard too tightly and thus inadvertently change the spacing. It worked well enough.

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The final challenge here was the futtock shrouds. These appear to attach to a band around the mast. Most of the models I've seen use eyebolts but, again, I have difficulties making eyebolts small enough for 1/72 scale. So I ended up gluing the shrouds directly to the mast and then wrapping the threads with a small strip of painter's tape. I then cut off the excess thread and painted the tape dark gray to represent the metal band. I think it will be secure enough. Though, the lines could be a bit tighter.

 

It was quite satisfying to mount the mainmast in the hull!

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