Frank Burroughs Posted April 17 Author Share #31 Posted April 17 "Ship Modeling from Stem to Stern" by Milton Roth Nirvana, Scottish Guy, Keith Black and 1 other 4 Quote https://fbinkslinger.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoelSmith Posted May 7 Share #32 Posted May 7 (edited) Lloyd McCafferey's book Shipbuilding in Miniature is a really good treatise on the subject. He goes into really good detail about different woods and their inherent qualities for various model ship parts and spars. It was interesting to read how he makes fine scale rope and ratlnes from very fine copper wire. Although aimed at the modeller who would be working in wood from scratch, there is much to be gained from his book by adapting some of Lloyd's techniques to improve models from plastic kits. HIs book is a Conway Maritime Press publication. Edited May 7 by NoelSmith Keith Black, Canute, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafi Posted May 29 Share #33 Posted May 29 (edited) A small test I did for my Heller Victory ages ago: Same dimensions, same weights. Guess which one is the original plastic kit´s part and which the wooden replacement 😉 XXXDAn Edited May 29 by dafi Snug Harbor Johnny, Keith Black, mtaylor and 4 others 6 1 Quote To victory and beyond! http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/76-hms-victory-by-dafi-to-victory-and-beyond/ See also our german forum for Sailing Ship Modeling and History: http://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com/ Finest etch parts for HMS Victory 1:100 (Heller Kit), USS Constitution 1:96 (Revell) and other useful bits. http://dafinismus.de/index_en.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Black Posted May 29 Share #34 Posted May 29 Which is the plastic? mtaylor, dafi, Frank Burroughs and 1 other 1 3 Quote Current Builds: 1870's Sternwheeler, Lula Wood Hull Screw Frigate USS Tennessee Decorative Carrack Warship Restoration, the Amelia Completed: 1880s Floating Steam Donkey Pile Driver Early Swift 1805 Model Restoration Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Burroughs Posted May 30 Author Share #35 Posted May 30 On 5/7/2024 at 2:51 AM, NoelSmith said: Lloyd McCafferey's book Shipbuilding in Miniature SHIPS IN MINIATURE: The Classic Manual for Modelmakers Hardcover – March 1, 2003 by Lloyd McCaffery This book? He has two. Keith Black, Canute and mtaylor 3 Quote https://fbinkslinger.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoelSmith Posted June 6 Share #36 Posted June 6 Frank. My apologies. I got the book title I have wrong. The Lloyd McCaffery book I have is Ships In Miniature a New Manual for Model Makers. Published in 1988 by Conway Maritime Press I didn't know that he had written another book. Canute, Keith Black, Frank Burroughs and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryTodd Posted June 7 Share #37 Posted June 7 I've built several Revel 1:96 scale Constitution/United States kits, most of them modified for RC sailing. The lower masts, topmasts, and lower yards are mostly hollow and made in two halves. I would always put a wood rod, usually from a bamboo skewer or chopstick, and fill it with epoxy putty (plumber's epoxy). Solid plastic spars I would replace outright with wood, and the real thin ones, like the mizzen t'gallant mast, with brass rod and plumber's epoxy to shape parts, like the heel and truck, etc. Sorry, I can't seem to find any pictures of the mentioned models except for these, which don't show what I'm referring too very well. This was the last such kit I completed for RC which used a bell-crank sort of set-up in the hollow lower mast to turn the course-yards, which is why all the spars had to be stronger than the kit's plastic spars could manage. When I volunteered at the Naval Academy Museum shop in Preble Hall, I got to see the store rooms where the stuff not on display in the museum was kept, which contained a lot of these kits built by alumni and donated to the museum. Pretty much all of their plastic spars had warped, curled, and deformed, just sitting on a shelf in a environmentally controlled storeroom. The cotton thread rigging had also rotted away on most of them as well. Here's one of many, tucked behind some other models on a shelf. Keith Black, mtaylor, Ian_Grant and 4 others 2 5 Quote Jerry Todd Click to go to that build log Constellation ~ RC sloop of war c.1856 in 1:36 scale Macedonian ~ RC British frigate c.1812 in 1:36 scale Pride of Baltimore ~ RC Baltimore Clipper c.1981 in 1:20 scale Gazela Primeiro ~ RC Barkentine c.1979 in 1:36 scale Naval Guns 1850s~1870s ~ 3D Modeling & Printing My Web Site My Thingiverse stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian_Grant Posted June 7 Share #38 Posted June 7 Sad to see these donated kits crumbling..... Frank Burroughs, mtaylor, Canute and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Burroughs Posted June 12 Author Share #39 Posted June 12 On 6/6/2024 at 6:11 PM, JerryTodd said: The lower masts, topmasts, and lower yards are mostly hollow and made in two halves. I would always put a wood rod, usually from a bamboo skewer or chopstick, and fill it with epoxy putty (plumber's epoxy). That sounds good to me. My shipyard has been closed for a month because my lymphedema has me very sick. When I start back this might be the approach to take with the lower mast. On 6/6/2024 at 3:32 PM, NoelSmith said: Ships In Miniature a New Manual for Model Makers The book has taken forever to come. Should be delivered Saturday. Been reading as long as I can stay awake with other books during the convalescence. Best thing about being down, books! mtaylor, Keith Black and Canute 3 Quote https://fbinkslinger.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Burroughs Posted June 18 Author Share #40 Posted June 18 On 6/12/2024 at 6:20 AM, Frank Burroughs said: Ships In Miniature a New Manual for Model Makers I must say I was stumped on a few things until this book came. This book and putting a rod in the lower plastic mast and filling them with epoxy is the breakthrough needed. After five weeks of being sick, I'm back on track again! Snug Harbor Johnny, mtaylor, Canute and 1 other 3 1 Quote https://fbinkslinger.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoelSmith Posted June 26 Share #41 Posted June 26 Glad to hear that you are feeling better Frank. Keith Black, Canute, Frank Burroughs and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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